She does not like me getting high

hinglemccringleberry

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My fiance gave me some headaches over weed in the beginning of our relationship but she came around. Through deep conversations I learned that she was somewhat antiweed because of the abusive assholes from her past who scarred her and they happened to be users. Through seeking to understand each others' backgrounds, including letting her know that I've always viewed weed as a privilege that I only partake in when I'm employed and have my shit together, we have overcome that issue. Sometimes you just have to seek to understand.
Out of courtesy I still don't do it right in front of her (even though she said I can) and I'm ok with that. It actually works out because this relationship keeps my tolerance levels EXACTLY where I want it. I really don't like overdoing weed and if I was single I probably would be overdoing it a bit.

I dated several pothead girls and lemme tell you, every single one of them was an immature, self-absorbed cunt who irritated the fuck out of me and spiked my anxiety, and every single one of them pressured me to use more than I wanted to. Then they ended up either leaving me for another guy and breaking my heart or I got tired of their attitude or we got mutually tired of each other after awhile. Not to mention the fact that being with them sent my tolerance levels into outer space, resulting in weed losing its special appeal that it originally gave me. The last one I dated, aside from being an egotistical cunt, smokes 3 blunts a day, drinks more in a week than I do in 5 years, and she couldn't relate to my microdosing preferences. Or anything else for that matter. I know there are some pothead girls out there who are cool but I haven't met them.
On the flip side, there are plenty of women still out there, at least in my area, who actually are thoroughly and rigidly antipot. I'm thankful that my girl isn't like them either.
 
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Zow237

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My fiance gave me some headaches over weed in the beginning of our relationship but she came around. Through deep conversations I learned that she was somewhat antiweed because of the abusive assholes from her past who scarred her and they happened to be users. Through seeking to understand each others' backgrounds, including letting her know that I've always viewed weed as a privilege that I only partake in when I'm employed and have my shit together, we have overcome that issue. Sometimes you just have to seek to understand.
Out of courtesy I still don't do it right in front of her (even though she said I can) and I'm ok with that. It actually works out because this relationship keeps my tolerance levels EXACTLY where I want it. I really don't like overdoing weed and if I was single I probably would be overdoing it a bit.

I dated several pothead girls and lemme tell you, every single one of them was an immature, self-absorbed cunt who irritated the fuck out of me and spiked my anxiety, and every single one of them pressured me to use more than I wanted to. Then they ended up either leaving me for another guy and breaking my heart or I got tired of their attitude or we got mutually tired of each other after awhile. Not to mention the fact that being with them sent my tolerance levels into outer space, resulting in weed losing its special appeal that it originally gave me. The last one I dated, aside from being an egotistical cunt, smokes 3 blunts a day, drinks more in a week than I do in 5 years, and she couldn't relate to my microdosing preferences. Or anything else for that matter. I know there are some pothead girls out there who are cool but I haven't met them.
On the flip side, there are plenty of women still out there, at least in my area, who actually are thoroughly and rigidly antipot. I'm thankful that my girl isn't like them either.


Boom! This is why I never dated a stoner girl haha. Not that all of them are like you described, but most are and if I was married to someone who smoked weed with me then wed be some broke ass people haha. I spent 3 bux on a half g for my wife cuz its a high cbd low thc. I can handle that hahah. I'm glad I found a woman who understands me some what with weed haha
 
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needalift

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I'm not sure if I missed it or not since I skimmed through a lot of this thread but in the start @Mr.Sifter not only mentioned vaping , but also parties and dancing . A lot of people are fixating on the vaping ( considering this is FC it's the stand out I guess ) , but it sounds like the girlfriend is cutting out all the parts of your life that make you feel open and yourself . I read a lot of self bashing in you posts @Mr.Sifter and I got to say that if this girl was right for you , she would be helping you through this by supporting you and making sure that you don't feel this way about yourself . She's not helping you by just being there . Sounds like you are dependent on her more than vaping ang that is no good . Just being there to tell you what you are doing wrong should not be her role in your relationship . Homie you just need to lighten up on yourself and go out with or without her and listen to some good music and get your groove on !!! Maybe it will help remind you of some of the things you liked about yourself before they were ruled out . And believe me , regardless of what you think about yourself at the moment , you are better than what this funk is telling you . Don't ever let. Aping define your relationship , but don't loose yourself so far in one that there is none of you left . If you are being made to feel bad for being you , then it's time to bounce . It's scary to walk away when you think this could be the one , but the one will always be there to help you and if you work to get yourself in the right frame of mind then the right one will find you . And I can promise that she will help you to feel great about yourself !! Good luck and don't waste too much of your life away being hard on yourself or waitin for someone to decide what they want . Be you and be happy .....

Oh and for the record , most people feel like you at some point and they find their way out of it . You can do it too !!!!
 

Baron23

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I think this thread has some great advice. The OP may not take it. It might help someone else. I've enjoyed reading through the posts. There's a lot of caring folks that cuts through the BS and tells it like it is.

Life is really hard at times. The depression makes it harder. Get help for the depression then go from there.
@CarolKing hit the nail on the head! :tup::clap:
 

Mr.Sifter

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Thank you guys.
I read all your posts.
Amazing.
Thank you for your time and your words.

I know depression since i was 16.
i am now in my mid30s.
Therapy for 2,5years.
And now a new psychoanalytical treatment.

I was prescriped antidepressaants years ago and i take them.

Right now i take 8mg escitalopram daily.
Still anxious and depressed.
Her leaving me really gets me down in a new way.
I have been dumped before.
So i know how that feels.
Its different. New low.
 

Krazy

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Your "girlfriend" doesn't actually like you. She likes the imaginary image of what she believes she can force and mold you into for her own satisfaction and fantasy. Run...
It might or might not be true in this case but it certainly needed to be said.


I have certain friends who I don't enjoy being around when they are drinking or when they are smoking. It's nothing against them, but they turn into a different person. I say this as a daily cannabis user. Not saying this applies to you, but it's something to consider.
Yep. My brother who is an asshole becomes much worse after partaking. It does nothing for his assholeness and simply makes him happier to be that way and more willing to share it with anyone in the vicinity.
 

Alexis

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Mushrooms are indeed a god given medicine with an excellent record for treating depression. They can restore correct neurotransmitter functioning, so they work on a physical basis, but also on other levels as well. Pscyhological, emotional, spiritual, increasing our acceptance and awareness of our inner, true self. Healing past trauma.

I have extensive personal experience with psychedelics in tha past. Includimg a lot of ketamine. If I could go back, I wish I never took ketamine even once.
I really dont believe it is healthy or right for the mind. No bad experiences, just my own experiences and observations of others.
I REALLY dont think it is healthy for the mind, certainly not for the body.

I wish mushrooms had not been made illegal in the UK. We used to buy the grow kits. They really seemed to do me the WORLD of good in every sense.
@Mr.Sifter , I really wish you the best man. And I am very very sorry for a lack of sensitvity o
In my post somewhere above. I should know better and I let myself down which is rare for me. I didnt think you were still following the thread. I also have been clinically depressed for many years, in fact most of my life, made signifaicantly worse by illness since 2005.
(And a lack of mushrooms- one drug I should have taken a LOT more in place of ecstasy, ketamine, LSD.)
 
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muunch

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There's a lot of evidence pointing to ketamine being a very viable use for those suffering from treatment resistant depression. I'm not advising the guy to get zooted for the fun of it (maybe a little)

I was severely addicted to a chemical analogue of ketamine for years so I should hate it, but figured it's worth mentioning since it's been popping up a lot in literature...

I study psych in college and my professor who I worked under in a lab who focused on studying depression had us watch a film on it. Anywho probably not the best to be advising more drugs anyway but oh well
 

Alexis

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There's a lot of evidence pointing to ketamine being a very viable use for those suffering from treatment resistant depression. I'm not advising the guy to get zooted for the fun of it (maybe a little)

I was severely addicted to a chemical analogue of ketamine for years so I should hate it, but figured it's worth mentioning since it's been popping up a lot in literature...

I study psych in college and my professor who I worked under in a lab who focused on studying depression had us watch a film on it. Anywho probably not the best to be advising more drugs anyway but oh well
I know that in underground therapies ketamine, LSD and MDMA have been used with good success to treat depression and bereavement.
Substances can have a postive effect yet stll have some subtle negative consequences also. They give, but also take away. I feel strongly that ketamine takes something away, whereas mushrooms, if used rightly, can be purely giving and reach milestones and clear mountains, with zero diwnside.
I dont think Mr.Sifter is likely to go down these routes, but this thread has offered a lot of great wisdom and perspective for the whole community.
With all things, dose, setting and frame of mind are key, and results can vary wildly from person to person.
In my experiences, ketamine is particularly unhealthy physically, maybe injection is much better than insufflation however.
 
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muunch

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maybe injection is much better than insufflation however.

getting offtopic but it's significantly better due to lack of crappy metabolites (norketamine specifically) and increase in bioavailibility
 
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Mr. Whitewall

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Without being a professional... If the OP is already taking antidepressants I'd strongly advise against taking anything else on top, as we're unaware of how that'd react, especially any ''psychedelic'' drug!
It may be a fun trip recreationally, if done correctly, as in proper dosing for ''X'' effects and actually knowing where you're getting into.
I just don't think here is the case (as an aside, I have been told Ketamine is being currently used in pediatric departments, as it is apparently quite safe in a controlled environment, etc, etc. I also know that MDMA was used in the 70s (?) to make patients 'open up' during therapy, etc, etc).
If you think you know what yo're doing, I'd pass on the medical treatment, wait a few weeks, and then try other stuff. Again, this isn't sound medical advice (or at the very least) the proper guidance which should come from a professional when it comes to mixing chemical substances under severe mental and/or physical, stress which is what sould be sought for in the first place. Then if you still want to do it, at least you know what you're in for.

Personally, I'd say anything 'healty' (sports, socialising, yoga :nod:) as has already been advised, will be more beneficial than any drug when it comes to building up your confidence, and start loving yourself again, before any new relationships.
With no self-esteem nobody will give a crap about you: It does bring a negative aura that most people tend to avoid, especially if it lasts a long time, not only girls you may wanna date, also friends you may wanna go out with, or close 'friend-girls' that may very possibly introduce you to their beautiful friends... It's not all about jumping into true everlasting love relationships from the get-go; have friends, have fun and that'll naturally bring you to a person you may want to spend more time together with.
As has been said, if that person turns you away from what you REALLY are, then you're losing yourself. No wonder you'll end up feeling empty and useless. Your partner should ADD UP to your lifestyle, not take stuff away from you like a baby. It's part of a healthy relation to do stuff separately too and make yourself be wanted, instead of trailing along all day like a puppy.

Taoist philosophy also has an interesting conception of ''emptiness'' and ''void'' (if you're the philosophical kind)... You can make 'something' out of 'nothing' apparent... That is, you may think you're not interesting, to yourself, that you're 'nothing' but becoming 'something' is partly entirely up to you, and that is what may make you a ''fuller'' person, because it is YOUR path. But is also not necessarily not there... How do you know you're bad at something (anything) if you don't really, really give it an honest try? Nobody has all the answers, its just the 'blind leading the blind'. Find your strength. Also ''change is the only thing certain'' don't be afraid to, be yourself and evolve for the better.
'The rejected stone shall be the cornerstone' Bob Marley used to sing (here comes the dreaded song-quote moment :rolleyes:): 'here I am stoned, don't you pick & refuse me, 'cos they thing people refuse are the things they should choose...' If more people listened to the lyrics we'd find out he was a pretty sharp fella...

Another thing I learned? Some Australian Aboriginees slash young initiates' chest with a sharp stone before applying ash and saying: 'Life is suffering. You better get used to it'.
...BUT that doesn't mean they live a miserable life slashing each others chests constantly though!!!:goon: I'm aware they try to live a happy life best they can, although it isn't always pretty...
 

Alexis

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If more people listened to the lyrics we'd find out he was a pretty sharp fella
Bob Marley was, and still is in my view, massively underrated for being a true genius when it comes to spiritual wisdom. He was one CLEVER guy. A really special man. Holy as hell, in the purest sense.
He is the best example I refer to when religious folk try and tell me that god doesnt want us to use cannabis. He was as close to god, doing god's work and bidding, as any christian I have ever met. (No disrespect to christians or any other faith, I just dont like it when people make such arguments against weed from a spiritual, serving the lord point of view, I have christian friends and am open to everybodies beliefs cos I dont know what is the truth nor doescany living soul ultimatel, hemcecwhy they call it faith- distinct from "knowing.")

They just dont make them like that anymore! Look at the musicians out there today. He was an anti etablishment weapon, which is why they killed him by giving him cancer. They squashed out the great musicians of that era, followed by Peter Tosh, another wise and holy man, another man of great wisdom coming from within and a higher place, and ushered in the rock and now pop culture which simply fails to stir and awake the masses, but keeps people content/distracted.
Bob Markey was an idol of mine growing up. I hardly ever hear his music or see his influence nowadays.

I went to a genuine Wailers concert in Ehgland in 1998. I didnt take any drugs at all that day or night. No weed even. Just 3 pints of Red Stripe beer, and I have never felt more high/happy ever since.
The pure vibes and buzz and love in that arena, from every person there. Still the best thing I have ever been to.
UnFREAKIN believable! Even without dear old Bob of course.

Love Bob Marley! Spiritual gold!:love:
 

Mr.Sifter

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interesting.
I have read about microdose psilicybin use in treating depression.
I did mushrooms ins my 20s for fun and since i am a sensetive guy I also am a microdosing guy.
Once I had a horror trip but that was the twice or triple the dose I used to take when I was alone.

I really would like to give it another try sometime in the future.
not in the near future because of the prescription i am taking right now.
Escitalopram is a SSRI and also interacts with my dopamine system.
Adding mushroom could lead to a serotine syndrome which can be fatal.

Escitalopram, the stuff I take daily, is strange.
I cant say it helps me for sure. How could I ?
I am not the resulut of the stuff I take but the result of all the things that happen within and without me.
Sometimes it makes me really tired and uniterested in life. I than feel like a stone.
Used to be a creative guy in my hobbies. Did a lot of fun photography. all gone.

I do sports but only at the gym with minimal human interaction because I am affraid of rejection.
So I put on my headphones and do some minor activity. I like to ride my bike aswell.

I recently lost my job because I could not shut up against the authorities. So thats another field I am feeling useless now about me and I have to reorientate.

Man, I should quit whining. Thank you so much for your time.
But I just cant escape the things I am and the things I feel.

another day now. Its sad because after I wake up I try to think of a way to get the day over with.
Its sad because all our days are numbered and I try to avoid life.
 

Ricardo

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Mr. Sifter, dude - you have a very good understanding of your situation. You know (pretty much) what you have to do to feel better. Life is short, as you say.... with your medication and psychological issues I would steer clear of psychedelics. I have had similar issues over the years, maybe to a lesser extent and have found that "the drugs don't work" (except for a little weed :D). Mindfulness and meditation.... that's the best thing I've found to help come to terms with who I am and (importantly) how I relate to others. :tup:
 

invertedisdead

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interesting.
I have read about microdose psilicybin use in treating depression.
I did mushrooms ins my 20s for fun and since i am a sensetive guy I also am a microdosing guy.
Once I had a horror trip but that was the twice or triple the dose I used to take when I was alone.

I really would like to give it another try sometime in the future.
not in the near future because of the prescription i am taking right now.
Escitalopram is a SSRI and also interacts with my dopamine system.
Adding mushroom could lead to a serotine syndrome which can be fatal.

Escitalopram, the stuff I take daily, is strange.
I cant say it helps me for sure. How could I ?
I am not the resulut of the stuff I take but the result of all the things that happen within and without me.
Sometimes it makes me really tired and uniterested in life. I than feel like a stone.
Used to be a creative guy in my hobbies. Did a lot of fun photography. all gone.

I do sports but only at the gym with minimal human interaction because I am affraid of rejection.
So I put on my headphones and do some minor activity. I like to ride my bike aswell.

I recently lost my job because I could not shut up against the authorities. So thats another field I am feeling useless now about me and I have to reorientate.

Man, I should quit whining. Thank you so much for your time.
But I just cant escape the things I am and the things I feel.

another day now. Its sad because after I wake up I try to think of a way to get the day over with.
Its sad because all our days are numbered and I try to avoid life.

Man you remind me so much of myself when I read this post. I'm just some guy across the internet but I really do know how you feel. You are likely dealing with dysphoria; anhedonia. It takes your depression "deeper" to the point (you ever recollect in amazement when you reach a NEW LOW, a low you never in a million years thought was even possible to feel?) A few years ago we started a thread on here for people like this, its called the Depressimistic thread.

I microdosed psilocybin cubensis once and the next day my depression was gone. The effects lasted about a year. There was no trip, just a mild euphoria, the whole experience was similar to vaporizing cannabis sativa, except I vividly remember "feeling" it take effect at the back of my head, where cannabis is something I tend to feel at the front. It just resets you, there is a lot of amazing information about human healing from interacting with plant entheogens. I'd love to try it again, I could use the reset. Definitely don't try while on SSRI though.

I'm afraid of rejection too, I put on my headphones and hope that nobody talks to me. Even though deep down I kind of hope someone would. Trying to get the day over as soon as you wake up - yep, and cannabis works great at passing time which makes it tricky with depression if you're prone to withdraw.
 

Mr.Sifter

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and that is the reason i will take a break from cannabis.
I can feel better when I vape or smoke but I really want to know how fucked up I am.
I'm pretty damn boring, I guess.
I can spend the whole day surfing the same webpages over and over again.
No plans, nothing to look forward to.

what I need is accepting myself. And that is something I cant do because I do not like me.
How could another human like me if i do not ?

Next week I have an appointment with my therapist.
I will ask if she knows a good psychiatrist with whom I will develop a plan to get off the SSRI.
Once I am off this stuff I will see what it gave me.
Its difficult to say what it does. Sometimes i think it just makes me tired uninterested in life.
thats not a thing I need.
I need love for life and love and motivation for finding my place in the world.
I am to old to be lying around and pretending my life is okay and it will get better.
It will not. Only time will pass.

and now what?
when i look in the mirror i see a corpse starring back at me.
skin like fluid pus. hate.
somehow lost my voice when i am beeing observed.
hiding in invisible mode.
almost feel sorry for my existance.

no wonder she left. didnt she? i dont know. no contact.
i am affraid to push her to tell me the truth

no energy.
 

Mr. Whitewall

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Sorry in advance for slight derail, I'll return to the tracks...

@Alexis yes I agree!

Bob Marley was, and still is in my view, massively underrated for being a true genius when it comes to spiritual wisdom.

Wasn't he?

(Return to subject) Also, I've always been shocked at the fact that nobody really seems to fully understand the lyrics of 'Get Up Stand Up'???:
''Most people think/ Great God will come from the sky/ Take away everything, and make everybody feel high'' ''[Half that story ain't never been told]'' etc.
I find it very funny because AFAIK people understand a political message, related to 'standing for one's rights, etc'... And that is why you might hear it on the radio? :lmao:
Funny enough its actually one of the only songs I have heard where he mentions cannabis openly, or at all for that matter?

@Mr.Sifter I had an ex like that once... Those people aren't worth any damn attention anymore! :horse: Leave the past where it belongs, it doesn't really help to live there for too long... Its just another burden that won't help in your new life, especially if you keep thinking back to when you where in a bad spot.
Ever broke any bones, for example? Do you dwell in the pain, how it felt, all the details, :zombie: blablabla. Or when you remember do you just see it as a trial; yes it hurt like fuck, for as long as it did but you got over it, and it made you a little stronger (mentally) in the end..?

I need love for life and love and motivation for finding my place in the world..

EXACTLY, 'if you don't know where to sail, then no port is good'' As the (rather badly quoted) Roman writer pointed out. That is for you to find out: 'sail' somewhere, you may find its not where you wanna be, so 'sail' somewhere else!
That will give you some experience and hindsight, hopefully putting you on the scent of what you really may need to do, where you should be, with who you would like to be...

I have another: ''those who did nothing, turned into nothing.'' I think its from the Bible (not my forte religion, mind you) but it makes perfect sense anyway.

Cannabis isn't bad in the sense that it helps cope with pain under all its forms. also makes you laugh, gets the body's auto-therapy going... But I agree with your plan and find it a very sensible approach, I'd just let my Doc know I like cannabis to relax and to see if you could try some for a test run. Drugs are only a temporary solution in this case imo, a new lifestyle is the key.

I hope it goes well, nobody has all the answers anyway... do as I say, not as I do! :bang:
 

Alexis

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@Mr. Whitewall , very wise and well spoken words of advice for the OP. @Mr.Sifter , thank you on behalf of us all for sharing some more details about yourself. You are clearly a sensitive and thoughtful man, and some of us did not give you due credit as you didnt give us much to go on initially.
Best of luck breaking from the ssri's. So sorry AGAIN for my own slight insensitivity regarding your situation and character. You have recived a load of excellent advice and perspective from so many deeply caring, sensitive, wise and highly intelligemt members.
I just want to encourage you in one way, that is- HAVE HOPE!

We are all in a different situation, on our own journey. I too have known especially deep and severe depression for a long time, and can relate entirely to the experience of reaching ever new lows, and feeling the worst ever, guiness record each time, when it didnt seem surpassable.

Utter hopelessness and despair. But I have learnt to remain hopeful, but expect nothing. We can never predict what is ahead, or how things will turn out. Just take day at a time. Take pressure off. Always try and be thankful for the small things.
Easier said than done, I am a hypocrit indeed!

But when things seem like they cant get any worse, what have we got to lose?
A very good place to start is with our physical health. Our physical condition has such a bearing on our mental state and ability to cope and see forward.

More fresh air, sunshine, some gentle exercise. Improving diet, detoxing will make a massive difference. A near infra-red sauna might be a good investment. Some feel good therapies like massage and accupuncture.

These approaches will automatically change your mental outlook.
I myself have been so seriously depressed recently. I could see no joy, no hope at all, and zero joy/pleasue/interest in anything.

My posting on fc has reflected this. I have been mentally abnormal and innapropriate.
This is 100% down to my physical conditon. Digestive function atrocious, toxic intestines, all round inner bodily disorder.

Today I had a treatment from an amazing chiropractor known as "Total Body Modification" , or "T.B.M."
It has transformed my body, digestive amd elimination function, processing of food, like a service on a car.
I feel ALIVE again! I am relaxed, interested in things, I can think! My brain is working again.
It was not working at all. I only had about 2% of my mental capacity, simple tasks were impossible, like fumbling in the dark!

Im sure I have a long way to go, and will no doubt be down again, but I wish to emphasize how we can get stuck in a very bad mental place, unable to move, see out, or even realise we are there and that it doesnt always have to be like this.

And it is actually almost entirely physical based.
Accupincture has a very similar total body effect to the T.B.M. , directly altering and transforming consciousness. We could go on forever in a dull, lifeless, hopeless, umbearable misery, or we can seek treatment like this and instantly we are in a new universe, a new body, with a brand new outlook!

There is also another branch of chiropractic that is very powerful and works on the deep seated emotions. Called "Neuro Emotional Technique", or N.E.T.

This type of therapy do not underestimate, absolutely not quackery I PROMISE you on my life.
Also known now as "Heartspeak."

Here are 2 links:
http://heartspeak.com/

http://www.positivehealth.com/artic...y-modification-for-the-treatment-of-allergies

I have been procrastinating about seeking this treatment out in recent years. Stubbornly, I wanted to do it myself, be independent. A little "proud" for want of better word.
But I have been stuck. My life has not been worth living. Ive been no good to anybody, toxic and unhealthy. I am going to swallow my pride and seek this avenue out now when I feel I need it, to live in comparative blissful joy and comfort and peace.

I cant reccommend this enough. You may be able to find practioners in your area. I know for 100% certain that this WILL help you, more than you can imagine, and probably faster than anything else you could do to get the ball rolling.

Doctors are not taught about these therapies, often in fact are shamefully convinced by drug companies that they do not work. So please bear this in mind and dont let it deter you if you are interested.

Honestly, compared to how I have been feeling for so long, I feel like I have died and gone to heaven!

I hope you have read this, are open to these ideas, and I really wish you all the best man!
Happy days to come!:)
 
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little maggie

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It looks like you are getting help already and with mixed results. I'm not sure what a new psychoanalytic treatment would be. But as some have mentioned there are quite a few newer mind/body/energy treatments that weren't around when you were young. I'd be glad as would others here to list some of these if you are interested.
There are also a variety of kinds of talk therapy. Often what works for one of us might not work for others. Finding a fit is important. Current psychoanalytic approaches may be effective for you and may not. With talk therapy, the relationship is often the most effective aspect of treatment regardless of type. You would know whether that applies to your current therapy or not.
 
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