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replacing ssv whip

Discussion in 'Vapor Related Equipment' started by stanley1131, Jul 7, 2014.

  1. stanley1131

    stanley1131 Well-Known Member

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    Well my ssv whip is pretty dirty and i want to get some new tubing. Forum says silicone is the best material to use but on the ssv website it claims their tubing is better than silicone. The ssv tubing is also way cheaper than white silicone tubing so which one should i buy, I'm willing to pay more if the silicone tubing is better but now im confused as i thought the ssv whip is made of pvc which should be inferior to silicone?
     
  2. SpruceGruve

    SpruceGruve Bag of sand in hand,Eyeing up the gold statue

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    I can't remember the thread name,but there is one dedicated to just whip tube material.
    As far as I remember from that thread the ssv tubing is better than silicone.
     
  3. tuk

    tuk Well-Known Member

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    Define "better" & "best" ?

    If better means flexible then 7th's vinyl tube is best, if inhalation safety is better than flexibility then ptfe or hight temp silicon is best.

    Cost is irrelevant.
     
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  4. stanley1131

    stanley1131 Well-Known Member

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    well obviously inhalation safety is most important. But it says on the ssv website that their tubing is better than silicone which confused me
     
  5. Tweak

    Tweak T\/\/34|<

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    I think they state it is better at staying clean on the outside, as silicone tubing likes to pick up dirt and hairs.

    I prefer silicone, it's more flexible and thus more usable for many other projects. It can be stretched to over twice its diameter, or folded up on itself to provide a double wall.

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    This is 5/16" ID, 7/16" OD tubing I'd bought for the EQ
     
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  6. tuk

    tuk Well-Known Member

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    If that was true in every case then 7th floor would never sell any tubing, afaikt most SSV owners use 7th's tubing not ptfe/silicon ....so it seems flexibility trumps safety for most people.

    Unlike ptfe/silicon there is no public data sheet available for 7ths tubing which means the operating tolerances, max temp etc are unknown.

    But, we do know that Vinyl begins to give off toxic gases at much lower temperatures compared to ptfe/silicon.

    Ime, Vinyl gives off gases at room temperature....anyone with a vinyl record collection will confirm that it smells when removed from the sleeve, while 7th's tubing doesn't smell quite as strong...it still smells which means its essentially off-gassing something.

    My ptfe tubing on the other hand doesn't smell/taste of anything, which is why it's used in labs by scientists/chemists & only in situations where it's impossible to use glass.....try getting those guys to use Vinyl, never going to happen, safety first!
     
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  7. RUDE BOY

    RUDE BOY Space is the Place

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    tuk silicone tubing is a lot more flexible then the proprietary 7th floor tubing.

    They do have it made for their vaporizers so you can trust it when using it with a 7th floor vaporizer. 7th floor didn't just buy rolls of tubing from the cheapest source, they have someone make tubing out of specialty material they feel is better then silicone !

    They could buy silicone tubing cheaper all day long !
     
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  8. grokit

    grokit power cosmic

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    I think the colored ssv tubing has more vinyl and the clear has more silicon, but I could be mistaken.
     
  9. max

    max Bingo Coordinator Staff Member

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    I can think of a couple ways it's better, but better in every way, no. Does it have the temp rating of silicone? No. Is it safe to use at vaping temps, yes. Is it a good deal price wise? Last time I checked, yes. If I were still using tubing, and needed some, I'd buy from 7th Floor or get the Silcon brand silicone tubing from U.S. Plastics.
     
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  10. New_World

    New_World Cuck Fombustion

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    excellent discussion.
    glad I'm not the only one who is anal about health and safety when it comes to vapes.
     
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  11. Deja Vu

    Deja Vu drawn to FC like animal magnetism

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    If we weren't there with you on that one, then we would most likely still be inhaling burning plant matter with butane lighters from homemade Coke bottle / garden hose / aluminium foil conepiece bongs :lol:
     
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