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recovery after vaping too much? Volcano

Discussion in 'ABV' started by MinnBobber, May 20, 2014.

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  1. MinnBobber

    MinnBobber Well-Known Member

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    Hi,
    anybody have any hints/ experience with issues after getting too high?
    I recently got way too high on Amnesia Haze which has a psychedelic effects.
    The budtender in Amsterdam scoffed at how little bud I was loading into their
    Volcano. I told her I was a light weight but she said it needed more, so I added more :(
    How many bags do you typically vape for one person?

    I was way too high and by myself on bike. I recovered enough to bike but now
    I'm home and vaped some bud but it doesn't feel as good as usual. A shadow of that
    bad experience is there, like I feel a little of the big nausea I felt then.

    Will this go away, where I can fully enjoy again?

    It might be like you threw up because of too much (beer), and now you crack a cold one
    and it's just not the same....
    thoughts?
    Thanks
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  2. Mr. Gweilo 420

    Mr. Gweilo 420 Dude

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    Yes it will go away. Don't worry. Get a good night's sleep, rehydrate and eat something. No harm done. Just remember to take it easy next time. Its great that in cannabis culture we don't celebrate excessive consumption as is common in alcohol culture. A day or two tops man and you will be back to your normal self :)
  3. RUDE BOY

    RUDE BOY Space is the Place

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    ^^ What mr. G said.

    also Breath deeply and relax the feeling will pass, tomorrow do a different strain maybe try the haze later on in what's a more reasonable amount for your needs. We don't always know the real names of the bud we get here but once in a while there is some that makes me uncomfortably high like you said kind of psychedelic and very speedy feeling buzz (almost too high and I never thought that possible). You'll recover to tell of more coffee shop tales.
  4. Adobewan

    Adobewan Well-Known Member

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    Eat!
    Get a couple of burgers or a pizza, you'll be fine in no time!
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  5. nemo

    nemo Member

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    vitamin C also helps :)

    i take a couple of grams before bed, and i notice a big difference on my waking up state
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  6. max

    max This space available Staff Member

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    Sounds like this place needs to retrain their 'budtender(s)'. Calling people (essentially) wimps because they're not using an acceptable amount is not a good way to get return business. Do 'boozetenders' make a habit of telling customers that they're not drunk enough? I would hope not.
  7. smokum

    smokum I am who I am and your approval isn't needed!

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    Eating a chocolate bar or sugar candy will knock the edge of quickly without making you want to go to sleep from stuffing your face with high fat or greasy foods ;)
  8. Ratchett

    Ratchett Delta 3D Studios Designer Accessory Maker

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    I thought I read something about hydration also - drink some water to stay hydrated. I think it also helps to do this before you start vaping if it happens often.

    (But I'm still a vape noob)
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  9. cityslang

    cityslang A taste on the tongue

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    A whitey can be disturbing
    Some rules if you have an attack from experience
    1 try and leave any crowded areas outside can be better than a crowded noisy cafe
    2 laying down in a semi dark room helps
    3 as mentioned food and drink can help not alcohol as that will make it worse
    4 remember although it doesn't feel like it at the time you are not going to die or be in any way permanently affected.
  10. Paperback Writer

    Paperback Writer Im a Rastaman not a Dreadlock

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    I agree with the recommendations for water and vitamin C, its the only thing that helps me come back down. Sugar also helps and me wife makes honey "sticks" that come in super handy and easy to keep on your person. I have had many times where I was way over the line of pleasant and its not fun. My theory is that weed is way stronger than back in the 90's and I have had more negative results these past 5 years. It's ridiculous that budtender peer pressured you as @max said. What has helped when I am at home and seeing Jesus is slicing a lemon or lime and eating it. Get you back to earth rapidly
  11. Vapewithfire

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    I think your problem will go away, very soon. When it is not becoming better, i would make a little break of 1 or 1/2 a day. May be your mind and weed effect is normal again, after that. Did that a lot of times.

    I think it wasn´t that good, to put that much into the bowl.
    Amnesia haze ( what i have since 3 days ) is the strongest sativa i know,
    the buds contain up to 30 % thc and nearly no cbd.

    It was too much thc and no cbd or cbn in it.
    This substances cause kind of relaxed mind and nerves, i guezz.
    This makes it less psychedlic and more valium like, i red.

    Vaping weed, makes it more sativa, because no cbd in it and no thc turned into cbd or cbn by burning.
    If you would have smoked it, or vaped it with high temperarture, over 230 ° celsius ( impossible with the volcano, heat range up to 225° ) a bit of thc would be converted into cbd, i think. But this would be not enough i think.

    Too much thc ( vaping with volcano can give up to 500 % thc )
    Too less cbd ( sativa weed + low temperature vaping = supersativa )

    High dose thc, especially without cbd, is well known for it´s hallucinogenic Effects. I think you had kind of little weed bad trip, should be harmless compared to a lsd bad trip.

    When you vape sativa, i would use little doses. I use 50 mg.
    I think when you vape, indica strains and vaping with 230° or a bit more, would be better.

    When you don´t like vaping anymore, and think about smoking again
    ( what i don´t hope, because the condensate goes into the lung, heart, blood and legs ) i would test vapsmoking ( smoked with 3 pipescreens above the
    weed ). This is also more thc, but enough cbd and cbn. Still much less condensate compared to smoking, but much more than vaped.
    Better trie vaping with 250 ° celsius ( when it works with you vape ), before test vapsmoking.
  12. Bouldorado

    Bouldorado Well-Known Member

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    I usually don't get too high from vaping/dabbing, but when I overdose on edibles I just take it easy for the rest of the day and go to bed early. The next day I'll either completely hold off on vaping or wait until later in the evening.

    It's difficult to say how many bags a person would need. That's dependent on load size, temperature, tolerance, and potency of the bud. From my experience with high quality bud in a volcano (at 380F), someone with a low tolerance probably won't need more than a couple hits (<1/4 of the bag).
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  13. MinnBobber

    MinnBobber Well-Known Member

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    Yes, think it was a whitey but it was scary. Biked to shop and had to bike home, eventually. No phone number to call for my host. Budtender/ owner was very bad to chide me into doing more but it was perfect storm as I had intense backache after two days in intense sports tournament and previous vape (to my regular portion) really really helped my back. Now my back was really sore so had already put much more herb than previously and then added more after budtender scoffed at me. Really lucky on 2 counts:
    1. didn't add as much as they suggested
    2. didn't do more bags from the Volcano as that would have been really BAD. I left one full inflated bag and possibly more . Told budtender I felt bad/sick and did anyone wish to finish mine/ didn't want it to go to waste/ didn't know what is allowable---with language barrier she didn't really get what I asked.

    Probably was a whitey as they said I had no color. Went outside as coffeeshop was a little unnerving as I could hear all 20 converstions in there at once and my hearing is not good ;)
    Outside was better but sweat was dripping off my face and it was cool/windy. I felt like I was right at the edge of needing med attention and sometimes over that edge. Cannabis specs say Amnesia Haze can be psychedelic and it was trippy but wrong place/wrong time. At one point I could hardly hold my head up by itself.
    Then to top off a bad scene, I'm still feeling horrible but had moved back inside to big couch and look outside to see someone trying to steal my host's locked bike which she lent to me!! I instinctively run out there to ask what the hell they're doing to my bike and they yell/runoff. Then back inside and staff wonder what the heck I'm doing. I explain and go wait it out some more and bike home.

    It was like if someone usually drank 4 oz of beer and felt buzzed and then did 1/2 gallon and got really sick. Next time they sip 4 oz, it may not feel so good to them.
    I may vape a little later but yesterday it didn't feel/taste like"normal". It had hints of my bad experience, not just pure positive tastes and feelings.
    Here's hoping it gets back to the all positive vibes from vaping some fantastic bud!!

    Thanks for all your comments!! Just so thankful the situation turned out ok as it could have gone very bad, very easily.
  14. HomeFree

    HomeFree Well-Known Member

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    Amnesia Haze is one of my favorites. It's probably one of the most potent strains in Amsterdam.
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  15. cityslang

    cityslang A taste on the tongue

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    Too much THC and not enough CBD in hybrids can be rough if you have too much @ataxian has made some very interesting observations that hybrid sativa hazes can be jittery but 20 week term sativas don't have this effect.

    Commercial growers don't want to wait 20 weeks and have a huge sativa on their hands
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  16. lwien

    lwien Well-Known Member

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    Huh?
    :shrug:
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  17. ataxian

    ataxian California

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    I believe you get it!

    Today we have "GMO" invoked into the CANNABIS Plant.
    My Dutch Crunch is mostly sativa.
    I'm on week 16 after 8 weeks of vegetation and my COLA Flowers are not ripe. 20 weeks is CONNOISSEUR grade. Commercial growers don't have a large enough market for it.

    Sativa taste amazing and they can be very medical.

    Indicas flower faster and if grow right taste very nice.

    Indicas are easier to grow.
    Sativas take skill and just as important patience!

    Vaporizer are necessary compliments to ingesting medicine Sativa or Indica!
  18. Vapewithfire

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    • More claims without supporting references. Member has been warned multiple times. http://fuckcombustion.com/posts/587472
    Yes, when you smoke a lot of thc gets destroyed and some gets converted into cbd like, i red.

    I red

    Joints 5-10 % thc ( in blood )
    bongs 10-20 % thc
    Vapes up to 90 % thc

    I don´t know, if this is 100 % right, but it should be basically true, i think.
    It depends on some things. Especially volcano bag systhem could be very efficient, because you can take several little puffs. They don´t need that long to be absorbed. When you exhale too early, up to 80 % of the thc can get lost, i heard. Depends on how much thc is in the vapour.

    Was it vaped good ?
    How long did you keep it in your lung ?
    Is something gone to body areas where it is wasted ?
    ( stomach, bowel, ... ? )
  19. ataxian

    ataxian California

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    You vaporize out of a plastic bag?
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  20. Mr. Gweilo 420

    Mr. Gweilo 420 Dude

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    :doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh: Stop making shit up man.
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  21. EveryDayAmnesiac

    EveryDayAmnesiac Heaven can't wait.

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    Hmm... Amnesia Haze sounds perfect for me... :science:
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  22. VaporsVaporizer

    VaporsVaporizer On the Stoop

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    What coffeeshop were you in ? no one should ever goad someone into doing more than they know they can handle .
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  23. cityslang

    cityslang A taste on the tongue

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    It would be nice to try some genuine 20 week quality landrace sativa it's not been this century that's for sure.

    I personally don't find amnesia haze freaks me out at all I find it the 2nd best haze hybrid I've had. It's strong but the mix of other psychoactive compounds in its produce work well for me but being so strong too much thc = whitey. Some folks I've known have the classic poisoning reaction of the body making them vomit. I've had many whiteys when younger but I guess it's part of learning to respect the herb.
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  24. ataxian

    ataxian California

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    This is my afternoon medical dose of:
    Snoop Doggy Purple Kush very nice.
    I'm waiting for a 20 week SATIVA.
    Just like the 70's.

    Last Century!
  25. KidFated.

    KidFated. Good Things Come To Those Who Chill

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    It's gotta be a joke.....
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