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Recommended Vape for CBD med patient

Discussion in 'ABV' started by toastinbread, May 14, 2014.

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  1. toastinbread

    toastinbread New Member

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    Hey guys,

    Just curious on the expert advice. I'd like a desktop/plugin vape mostly for high CBD strains that were recommended by my doctor. I do some recreational toking as well, so would also use it for that. I use generally small, lightweight amounts these days, like .2 g or so.

    The only vape I have ever used/own is the MFLB. I like it, and it's fine for stealthy, taking it out with friends, etc. But I can't get the same effect from CBD strains as I do when toking. I end up combusting in the MFLB from trying to take the temp too high. I'd like to transition over to vape fully, so just looking for some advice for something solid.


    Looked at the Plenty, it seems awesome but maybe overkill for my situation. The thing I really like about the Plenty is the temp gauge so I know for sure I'm getting high enough temps to vape those CBDs. The thing I didn't like was it seemed a bit wasteful and maybe not the best choice for lightweights like myself :D

    The SSV always seems like a solid choice, and I guess the LSV would be just as good. The one thing I don't like is not knowing exact temps, I guess once I get it dialed in it would be fine though.

    Not sure what else is out there that would fit my needs, so looking for any suggestions.

    The really important things to me are fine grained temperature control, efficiency and conservation. Don't mind dishing out some bucks for a solid product but at the same time I don't wanna waste money if it's not necessary to get what I need.
     
  2. Ratchett

    Ratchett Delta 3D Studios Designer Accessory Maker

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    If you want precision temperature control, you might want to consider the herbalizer.... Or another really popular vape on this site is the Airizer Solo, thought the that doesn't permit for precision temperature control - it's a portable vape, but seems like damn near every other person on this site has one and likes it

    I thought I would need to know exact temperatures, but personally, I can tell by color and taste now. I have a Davinci Ascent with a nice OLED screen, but the thermostat is installed on the outside of the oven, it's not an accurate measure of the temperature inside the load. Additionally I can't recommend that device currently as I still don't feel the product is "finished" - seems like there's still a few things to fix before it's as solid as their original vape.

    Another vape to consider - the HerbalAir - they sell an elite model with a digital temperature controller, but I really haven't seen any indication where the temperatures are measured, or how many sensors they use for temperature regulation.

    It sounds like you don't mind using a plugin vape. I think you should start with something affordable before you look for a nice expensive vape. I think either the HerbalAir Elite or the Airizer Extreme Q would be a good starting point since they offer several options including whip, bag, and direct to glass if you desire some water action.

    Just my :2c: - but what do I know. I'm only a recent convert from combusting. Officially said FUCK combustion in March!
     
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  3. toastinbread

    toastinbread New Member

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    Thanks for the reply, awesome suggestions for a bunch of vapes I never heard of. And yeah, the herbalizer looks freaking sweet but I'm not sure I wanna drop the money for that bad boy to start off. But man, that thing looks cool. Have to keep it in mind for when I win the lottery :D

    I noticed that a lot of temp gauges measure the heating element or something other than the actual temp of the vape chamber. I guess the Plenty does the chamber and so does the herbalizer. There is also a WAF (wife acceptance factor) I have to account for and something that is big and bulky probably not gonna cut it. I could probably rule the Plenty out on those grounds (though I still kinda dig it personally).

    So I can probably rule out an accurate temp gauge, though measuring the element temp still gives a better reference point then dialing a knob. So I would consider it a plus, but not a necessity. Any kind of digital or analog control is going to be better than what I have now in the MFLB.

    What would you say about the Davinci isn't that great? I noticed it gets mixed reviews online. I'm not really sold for or against plug in vs portable, I do like the MFLB in that I can just carry it in my pocket around the house or wherever. The Arizer solo looks solid, not sure I like the size of it for a portable though.

    I just watched a review on the Pinnacle Pro and it seems to get some pretty decent feedback. Could use the water tool at home and still have some stealth mode if I wanted to take it out. Going to have to check that one out a bit more. What's the verdict around here on the Pinnacle Pro?
     
  4. Ratchett

    Ratchett Delta 3D Studios Designer Accessory Maker

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    Heh, the Herbie is an awesome Vape, can't wait to try one myself, but indeed - lottery money only kinda expensive, especially when you include the WAF. Haha, my wife is currently rolling her eyes about all the shipments I've been receiving recently for vapes and glass (yeah, I can't get enough of either!)

    If you aren't looking for something big and bulky, Maybe a plugin vape isn't for you.

    The Davinci Original sounds like a great unit (never tried it), but their new unit the Ascent is still only about a year old. There are several bugs to fix (durability of wires inside hinge, Air-Tight seals to prevent air leak, and no official 'spacer' available if you want to pack small loads. I would say it needs another year for the issues to get worked out.

    Honestly, the Pinnacle Pro does have it's fanbase on this site, but it too sounds like they're still working out the bugs, I hear a lot of complaints about the mouthpiece breaking? If you want the best PV around currently, buy the Airizer Solo. Trust me, you will not regret your decision with the Solo. I wish I had bought that over the Ascent as my first true vaporizer. No learning curve, easy to use, TONS of accessories (and adapters for connecting to glass), and it's extremely reliable.

    I really think you should start with the Solo - it's an extremely versatile vape, at an affordable price. Many on this site use it for portable and home use.
     
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    VapeVoice Well-Known Member

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    I second this. I have long said that I don't believe there is a better vaporizer for a beginner than the Solo, and for just about all the reasons stated here.
     
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  6. toastinbread

    toastinbread New Member

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    Alright you guys are bringing me around to the solo. The things that hold me back are

    1. The design. Hard for me to pinpoint what it is, but something about it seems kind of bland. The SSV and the especially the wave riders definitely have a unique style, even the MFLB has it's own personality with the wood options and engraving on the back. I guess the Arizer just strikes me as uninspired, but functional. So I guess I can live with that, especially since it seems like they nailed the functional part.

    2. I'm not sure I like how you load it. From the reviews I have seen you have to kind of pack the end of the glass tube or vacuum it up, and then stick it in the base unit. Seems a bit messy. I see in some of the video reviews material falling out of the tube when they are pulling it out, trying to pack it, etc. I really like the bullets in the PNP, seems a much cleaner design. But, this might just be a non-issue once you get used to it.

    But yeah, price-wise the solo is hard to beat, and I really can't argue with the many great reviews it gets. So maybe I should go for it. Will do a bit more research before making up mind, but thanks again for the replies, definitely a big help!

    EDIT: One more quick question, checking prices online Arizer Solo direct is listed at $224, but I see it at resellers for $139. Is this the same model? I usually prefer buying direct so I know I'm not getting a knock-off, but that's pretty significant price difference.
     
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  7. VapeVoice

    VapeVoice Well-Known Member

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    I believe with the FC discount you can get it from Planet Vape for $160. Check out the trusted retailers section! Good luck in your purchase whatever you choose.... but glad your on the Solo path!
     
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    toastinbread New Member

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    Sweet, thanks again :) You guys have me sold.
     
  9. grokit

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    The seventh floor products (ssv, dbv, lsv) are definitely capable of full extraction.
     
  10. toastinbread

    toastinbread New Member

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    No doubt, and like I said I love the style (and also being a fan of the comic doesn't hurt either). I am leaning heavily toward the solo now, but the SSV is also high on my list.

    I guess as I see it, functionally they seem to be about the same (Maybe I'm wrong here), both have a ton of accessories, etc. Down to style the SSV wins hands down in my opinion, but I'm not sure it's worth the extra $100 or so, and also I do kind of like the portability of the Solo.
     
  11. beach bum

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    toast, I have both the SSV and the Solo. While I really love the SSV (for style and big clouds), I find it takes more to "feed this beast". Some have obtained smaller capacity wands for the SSV and say that helps with efficiency.

    I tend to utilize the Solo more. It's an easy to use vape and takes less to fill. With a heat gauge of 1-7, you can adjust to get what you need out of it.

    I'd get both if that were an option. If you are looking for major clouds and a heavy daily driver, I really like 7th Floor products (SSV, DBV, LSV). If you are looking for ease of use and efficiency, the Solo is a good option. Best of luck with your decision! :2c:
     
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  12. pakalolo

    pakalolo RoboMod v3.17 (ticking) Staff Member

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    First, a basic principle: you do not really need a temperature gauge, you need a way to adjust the temperature so that you can get the same heat consistently. You can accomplish this with the MFLB PA, so you might want to consider that. I always recommend having at least two vapourizers (for backup) so my advice is to get the PA regardless of what else you do.

    Second, the Solo does have to be loaded more or less the way you describe, but it's not as messy as you think. A friend of mine uses his Solo inverted only, meaning that he holds the stem with the load upwards and places the Solo atop the stem. His heating chamber is pristine because there has never been a chance for the load to fall into it. In my experience, however, the load seldom falls out of the stem.

    If you are after thick clouds, neither of these is as good as the SSV, but the SSV will tend to really use up your stash in a hurry while the MFLB and Solo are both really economical.
     
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  13. Ratchett

    Ratchett Delta 3D Studios Designer Accessory Maker

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    Sadly, this indeed is exactly why I never gave the Solo a second look before purchasing my Davinci Ascent with it's a beautiful burl wood and all "glass on glass" marketing BS (hah, yeah right, it's not even air tight to produce pure glass on glass!)

    I too wish the Solo had a bit more style, but you can't argue with it's performance. Remember the device's ultimate purpose, not to look pretty on a shelf, but to do it's job medicating you. From the feedback on this site, it looks like it serves that purpose exceptionally well, especially as a portable vape. Damnit, now I'm talking myself into buying one!

    I can't comment on how to load it, but it appears you're mostly right, it can be slightly messy, but I like the idea of the vacuum. Others I believe simply scoop up the herb while it's still in the grinder and then tamp it down. Read up on the solo thread, I'm sure the topic of packing is probably mentioned 500 times
     
  14. Dafni

    Dafni Well-Known Member

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    I suggest you look at the E-Nano thread as well.

    I owned or tried many of the vapes discussed in this thread (no herbalizer though), and obviously they all have theit pros and cons, but since I got a Nano it's the only one I use at home. Perfect performance in a small affordable package.
     
  15. toastinbread

    toastinbread New Member

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    OK I ordered a solo from planet vape on everyone's suggestion and reading some reviews. Now the waiting game begins. Hope it arrives before the long weekend :D

    Quick question, for someone who doesn't consume much per session, does it work as well if I only half pack the stem? Or should I try a piece of cotton/SS to take up the extra room? Not really sure if necessary but I usually don't even get through a whole trench on my MFLB depending on the strain and potency.
     
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    Half packing isn't a problem - somebody I know does this regularly. If you find you did pack more than you wish to consume, pull your stem from the Solo when you are done with your session to use again later on. :)
     
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