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  1. Jman5280

    Jman5280 Active Member

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    From my understanding, I simply take some 99% ISO and Shake it through my rig. Pour the ISO out into a glass dish. Then I soak my quartz nail and ash catcher in the glass dish with ISO.

    Then I just let the oil/ISO mixture evaporate in glass right? The final product is shatter right?

    Once fully evaporated and in it's shatter form, is it clean enough to go back on the nail or in a pen? What can I do with it?

    *Should I clean the top of the quartz nail before I start the process? The nail is gold liquid like everything else, the top of the nail has that burnt residue...
     
  2. Ratchett

    Ratchett Delta 3D Studios Designer Accessory Maker

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    I don't believe you can get shatter from those kind of ISO washes (I think shatter is made with fresh herb, which would be wasteful in my mind since stuff around me is so expensive!)

    My reclaim from cleaning screens and glass cleaning is typically pretty black and thick. The taste isn't the best - pretty harsh because of the higher temperatures.

    I've found it extremely effective while running through my 3 chambered bubbler assembly (more water for more diffusion to reduce the nasty harsh taste)
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    I find reclaim to work better late in evening when I've done all that I plan to do. Few good rips on this with some reclaim saturated cotton, and I sleep like a baby
     
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  3. Jman5280

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    But isn't oil reclaim just oil?

    I'm talking about using ISO on only my pieces that were used for oil. They don't have nasty resin build up like glass you SMOKE herb through...the ISO would be dark yellow and once the ISO evaporates it should just be reclaim oil.

    I would think that what's left over after the ISO evaporates is exactly what went in = shatter.
     
  4. clouded vision

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    It does not shatter again, it will end up darker and runny. It is due to applying heat to it. I can't explain why but I can guarantee that it does from personal experience.

    Another thing to remember when reclaiming is that unless you use distilled (not spring or bottled) water in your rig then there will be minerals left from the water, things like calcium, lime, even rust if using tap water, things you may not want to vaporize and inhale. OTOH reclaim is great for edibles and it is already decarbed.
     
  5. Jman5280

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    What is otoh?

    I'm so confused about reclaim lol
     
  6. clouded vision

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    OTOH=on the other hand.

    There are several different compounds that make up concentrates and they all vaporize at different temperatures, terps and thc are lower than cbd and cbn so they stay vaporized longer. This means that reclaim will have less flavor and will be far more sedative because it has a much higher concentration of cbd and cbn compared to the original concentrate.
    As for the consistency, when you vaporize it, the chemicals undergo a reaction and bonds are lost which do not reform the same way.
    The bottom line is this, the better your concentrates, the better your reclaim but it will never be anywhere near as good as it was before you dabbed it.
     
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  7. Jman5280

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    Understood. So really just use the reclaim for edibles? Dabbin it again wouldn't be ideal?
     
  8. clouded vision

    clouded vision Well-Known Member

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    It's up to you, feel free to try dabbing it but if you don't like it then make edibles with it.
     
  9. Jman5280

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    What are the light yellow flakes that are all over my water piece?

    Ever since I started dabbing on my bong, these yellow flakes are everywhere, somehow they managed to get through three percs...

    Is this reclaim? It's not oily, they are waxy flakes that stick to glass.
     
  10. iVapeTooMuch

    iVapeTooMuch The Legend

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    I've always assumed that is reclaim. I could be totally wrong however.
     
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  11. DieHard

    DieHard Vertical transportation specialist.

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    That is reclaim. Some of the oil in vapor form will re condense inside the glass (those flakes). If you let all of the ISO to evaporate then the reclaim will probably be as safe to dab as the stuff you started with. It will depend on your preference for the flavor OR NOT. More diffusion will kill some of the flavor if you don't like it. If it gags you, do edibles.
     
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  12. Vape 4 Life

    Vape 4 Life Vote YES Amendment 2 for MMJ in FL

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    I have been cleaning my Ascent glass ware in 99% ISO & have been doing so for a few months. It's turning darker like the color of water downed apple juice.

    My normal temps max @ 390F to a brown ABV & then save it for occasional 430F bubbler sessions. The ISO soak has been used for all temps glass ware.

    If I coffee filter the ISO soak & evaporate in a glass plate, can I consume orally immediately? I will wait to make sure all ISO is evaporated. I've never tried repurposing the reclaim by ISO evaporation. It's my 1st time.

    What's the leftovers taste like of reclaim from ISO soak glass used in vaporizer only?

    I appreciate any feedback & recommendations.
     
  13. DieHard

    DieHard Vertical transportation specialist.

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    Taste is a very subjective thing. That said, i do not prefer to dab reclaim. I will do so in a pinch however. The finer the filter you use to clean up the iso the bettter. I have done a sort of winterize to some reclaim. I froze the reclaim/iso mix and then cold-filtered it through a 20 Micron SS screen from 316Wholesale.com. The results were pretty good. It was a dark brown but clear oil barely too sticky to handle at room temp. The flavor was not too bad but I am a flavor chaser so...

    I have not tried to eat it I'm sure the flavor will be nearly the same as vaping it. It will be decarbed already so the THC will be active for oral consumption.
     
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  14. Vape 4 Life

    Vape 4 Life Vote YES Amendment 2 for MMJ in FL

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    Thanks DH. What does freezing the reclaim/ISO mix help do & will it have any viscosity to pour thru a filter? Thanks again.
     
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    DieHard Vertical transportation specialist.

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    I'm not really sure it did anything to be honest. I just wanted to try the technique. I know that winterizing can remove some of the flavor, so if the flavor was not so good, to remove some would be beneficial. Not as effective as winterizing fresh oil where waxes are removed. When evaporating the ISO be sure to be well ventilated. Also make sure to let it evaporate a bit longer even after all visible liquid is gone. Unless you are using 100% ISO (doubtful) there will be water in there.
     
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  16. Jman5280

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    after i let the iso evaporate, its good to go right?

    i am going to follow this video:

    around minute 7:40 he says "its fully purged" - dont you need a vac to purge? im confused!

     
  17. Deja Vu

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    Is there a reason why people don't use 100% ISO in ALL situations where ISO is required? It's pretty cheap online to find 100% stuff, or is it false advertising?
     
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  18. Caligula

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    It's not readily available in all places, just like super high abv ethanol such as Everclear.
     
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  19. Jman5280

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    When you say the oil will condense and reform, do you think that also happens inside of our body/throat? (While taking a hit)

    If it managed to make it trough three percs and reform at the top chamber of my bong, what's stops it from reforming in your body somewhere?
     
  20. DieHard

    DieHard Vertical transportation specialist.

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    Uhhh...Hmmm...Well...Nope, I got nothing. :shrug:
    That is a question that I have asked myself as well. But, it still has to better for you than combustion.:puke:
     
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  21. Jman5280

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    Yea when I feel like I have something stuck in the back of my throat...I think I do.

    I also wonder if this is being inhaled, is this "reclaim" reforming in my lungs? Where it can't escape?

    And why is it only with torch and nail? My pens don't do this when I hit them trough my bong. Only when I'm "dabbing brooo" lol
     
  22. Ratchett

    Ratchett Delta 3D Studios Designer Accessory Maker

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    I don't think it has time to condense and reform inside the body. Your body will absorb the reclaim faster than it can build up. Glass cannot process anything, it merely accumulates.
     
  23. DieHard

    DieHard Vertical transportation specialist.

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    Like He said. ^
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  24. Jman5280

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    I see what your saying. I had the impression that waxy substance (reclaim) forms in your lungs on the alveoli and that it wasn't "repairable"....this was one of my concerns when getting into dabbing but as I write this I am bout to rip a fat dab lol...

    http://www.nwgt.org/archive/index.php/t-7480.html
     
  25. herbivore21

    herbivore21 Well-Known Member

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    Mate, I have a 1.5g ball of rock hard (like a marble) reclaim shatter made in this way. It is all a matter of what you are reclaiming. If you are reclaiming from flowers, you'll get crappy oil, if you are reclaiming from good concentrates, you will end up with good concentrates (assuming you get your methods right) ;)
     
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