@just_the_flu that's really interesting feedback because after extensive testing multiple times, including both 25mm and 35mm axial coils, I feel that the dab/vapour quality is vastly different between a torched banger and e-nail. An e-nail just cannot replicate what the torch can do, and vice versa... but there are tradeoffs. I much prefer the torch simply due to the dab/vapour quality/smoothness IME.
Quartz Banger Thread
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superdang9000
Flameo Hotman!
I'm so fascinated by this because it seems like, scientifically speaking, an enail would deliver more consistent/reliable results. Been a long time since I've used a torch, though, so maybe I'll break one out again. 
I'm so fascinated by this because it seems like, scientifically speaking, an enail would deliver more consistent/reliable results. Been a long time since I've used a torch, though, so maybe I'll break one out again.
Gotta be the Blazer Big Shot!
I honestly don't know, but the difference is night and day to my lungs. Maybe it's the overall greater radiant heat soak of the full banger with the torch, since the coil doesn't cover it all, but just guessing. With the coil it's either rip after rip in the 400's up to 500 or so, and then it just gets too hot for me. With the torch I can crush a fat glob and hold it in my lungs like air, and completely finish it without waste. Lemme know what you think once you play around again!
superdang9000
Flameo Hotman!
For sure my man, it's never a bad time doing more "testing" 
And there are so many factors at play here. I do usually let my enail heat soak for about 10 minutes before taking a dab, which might be longer than necessary...
Are you doing cold starts too?
And there are so many factors at play here. I do usually let my enail heat soak for about 10 minutes before taking a dab, which might be longer than necessary...Are you doing cold starts too?
negative! I torch for 45s and cool for 90s and rip it! Getting an IR gun next week so i'll be able to know my exact floor temp of the gemstone.
@FlyingLow I use the Blazer Big Shot as well. I do have a Dadmatz Helios torch on its way though for comparison, which is supposed to be similar, but with a ceramic core.
https://fatdabco.com/products/helios-torch-by-dabmatz
Gemstone physics and heat retention are completely different from quartz. I'm either 45/90 or 30/60-75 when in a greater rush. I prefer the longer heat retention of the 45/90 so I can take my time, and even crush a .1g like it's AIR. You can also pass it to a buddy for a consecutive dab without a re-torch! That's the magic of gemstones, in addition to the much lower effective vaporization temperature!
Soon we will be in Greek Ruby Land! He suggests 30s/60-74s with the Big Shot... Can't wait to go from a 17mm insert to 19mm! And now he's going to sell IR Guns for only $15.50! Preorder is up!
https://fatdabco.com/products/helios-torch-by-dabmatz
Gemstone physics and heat retention are completely different from quartz. I'm either 45/90 or 30/60-75 when in a greater rush. I prefer the longer heat retention of the 45/90 so I can take my time, and even crush a .1g like it's AIR. You can also pass it to a buddy for a consecutive dab without a re-torch! That's the magic of gemstones, in addition to the much lower effective vaporization temperature!
Soon we will be in Greek Ruby Land! He suggests 30s/60-74s with the Big Shot... Can't wait to go from a 17mm insert to 19mm! And now he's going to sell IR Guns for only $15.50! Preorder is up!
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Torch/Blazer Big Shot Enthusiasts: Blast Sheelds have been released by #blast_union on IG. I actually grabbed mine from #investinheadies and should have it next week. Apparently these blow the Blazer Big Shot Aluminum Nozzle Guards out of the water and work so well you can hold the torch by the Blast Sheeld!
Just spreading the love to keep my FC Torching Family safe!
Just spreading the love to keep my FC Torching Family safe!
Me neither, and i've never burned myself once with the Big Shot, but I figure for the $35 even it it happens just once at some point in the future, it's really affordable insurance to prevent much misery. I mean, stoner moments can and will and do happen
Plus, they look dope! Grabbed a red to match my big shot!
b0
Cloudy...
I'm not sure if my Ruby insert is gonna be at home when I arrive tomorrow after holidays, but my SiC one should be there on Tuesday with an IR Gun to start the inserts testing! Pretty excited tbh!!
I'm starting to think about getting a proper enail as well. Never felt the need, I don't do massive dabs and I'm happy with my torch but a auber setup with 710coils isn't that expensive to give it a go... Maybe it's time to sell a couple vaporizers that aren't being used ...
I'm excited for you... especially interested in your thoughts about the SiC vs 19mm Ruby. My 19mm rubies have landed and they are great! Quite a size difference from the 17mm that i'm used to. I don't think i'd ever want a bigger gemstone insert TBH. The fitment with the @710Coils 25mm banger with 2.5mm sidewalls is absolute PERFECTION!
Hands down a quartz banger is far superior to any electric device I have used. Thats just my opinion.
I prefer a cold start low temp dab most of the time.
After using your standard small banger for years, I am now using a 25mm and a 30mm banger. At first I thought they were probably gimmicks, but now Im sold!
30mm without drop in
25mm opaque bottom
I prefer a cold start low temp dab most of the time.
After using your standard small banger for years, I am now using a 25mm and a 30mm banger. At first I thought they were probably gimmicks, but now Im sold!
30mm without drop in
25mm opaque bottom
@bizwaxzion I finally purchased an IR Thermometer and it has allowed me to ditch timing the torch!
It has an adjustable emissivity, and set default to .95. Any thoughts as to what to set it to for ruby and sapphire? It seems to be bang on accurate out of the box in line with my torch timer dabs, at a sweet spot of mid-upper 400's, but just curious. In the manual the closest thing I can see is glass, at .85.
It has an adjustable emissivity, and set default to .95. Any thoughts as to what to set it to for ruby and sapphire? It seems to be bang on accurate out of the box in line with my torch timer dabs, at a sweet spot of mid-upper 400's, but just curious. In the manual the closest thing I can see is glass, at .85.
bizwaxzion
Enigmatic Cannabist
I used this page for reference - emery corundum is listed at .86.@bizwaxzion I finally purchased an IR Thermometer and it has allowed me to ditch timing the torch!
It has an adjustable emissivity, and set default to .95. Any thoughts as to what to set it to for ruby and sapphire? It seems to be bang on accurate out of the box in line with my torch timer dabs, at a sweet spot of mid-upper 400's, but just curious. In the manual the closest thing I can see is glass, at .85.
@bizwaxzion Thanks for that chart! I notice that my IR even works great on clear quartz... wasn't that supposed to not be possible? Only with opaque is what I thought..?
Roth
Pining for the Mountains
Which IR guns are people using?
I have one from 5-10 years ago without adjustable emissivity, but it doesn't seem to be anywhere near accurate. It seems to work on items that aren't too hot or cold, but it just doesn't work at all on my dab gear. Even trying an item like the coil, which it should read without issue, I would get numbers in the 200-300 range. Obviously that's not right, my FP coil is set to 737!
I have one from 5-10 years ago without adjustable emissivity, but it doesn't seem to be anywhere near accurate. It seems to work on items that aren't too hot or cold, but it just doesn't work at all on my dab gear. Even trying an item like the coil, which it should read without issue, I would get numbers in the 200-300 range. Obviously that's not right, my FP coil is set to 737!
Mine reads regular quartz ... and it's just the MasterCraft one
pxl_jockey
Just a dude
@biohacker does not fuck around when it comes to measuring instruments!
It's one of the cheapest ones on Amazon! $25
Many of them don't go over like 600F or so, this one goes over 1000F. I don't use it over 600F, but it's nice to have
CastIronHits
Slightly Crispy
Is no one going to mention that the brands name is Estink? 