I see we have a thread for butane torches - seems to be about the larger stand-up kind used for heating nails and such. I'm interested in the smaller "pocket sized" ones, particularly the goose neck kind, used for heating a Lotus. Mods, if this doesn't need it's own thread, I understand. My lotus should be here tomorrow, fully stoked for that It comes with a basic Honest brand torch, that some folks have good luck with, and others not so much. I'm already shopping for a backup, and ok, I just like lighters Must be all that combusting I did in the past! I'm interested in the Chinese lighters, because of the high value to cost ratio, but feel free to discuss whatever brand you've tried. It seems like the low cost stuff (at least some brands like Honest) has as many satisfied customers as "the higher priced spread". I'd like to see if there's some consensus on what works well and what doesn't. From reading the Lotus thread, the high quality 'tane is recommended as an accepted fact, but some say they've used cheaper stuff with no problems. Does the cheaper stuff work well in some lighters and not others? These are my burning questions!