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Pocket size torch lighters

Discussion in 'Vapor Related Equipment' started by pigfoot, May 7, 2014.

  1. pigfoot

    pigfoot Dabs are vaping too!

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    I see we have a thread for butane torches - seems to be about the larger stand-up kind used for heating nails and such. I'm interested in the smaller "pocket sized" ones, particularly the goose neck kind, used for heating a Lotus. Mods, if this doesn't need it's own thread, I understand.
    My lotus should be here tomorrow, fully stoked for that :rockon: It comes with a basic Honest brand torch, that some folks have good luck with, and others not so much. I'm already shopping for a backup, and ok, I just like lighters :lol: Must be all that combusting I did in the past! I'm interested in the Chinese lighters, because of the high value to cost ratio, but feel free to discuss whatever brand you've tried. It seems like the low cost stuff (at least some brands like Honest) has as many satisfied customers as "the higher priced spread". I'd like to see if there's some consensus on what works well and what doesn't.

    From reading the Lotus thread, the high quality 'tane is recommended as an accepted fact, but some say they've used cheaper stuff with no problems. Does the cheaper stuff work well in some lighters and not others?
    These are my burning questions!
     
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  2. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    What do you mean cheaper stuff, Vector and Newport only cost me 4 dollars a 300mL can. I'd search locally, I don't know how my LHS can sell 12.50 cans for 4 dollars but that is actually their cheapest butane. I find low quality nozzles to be the biggest issue for me. But I've noticed my friend's butane makes their Hammer have a considerably less angry hiss when used, pretty sure they paid more for theirs than I did for mine as well. But there's wasn't even a brand I've heard of.

    I do think this thread is good though, I'm tired of seeing so much non Lotus talk in that thread. We need a good lighter thread. I still have my crummy Vector from 2011, works fine the dial is really worn so using it is a huge hassle but it lasted longer than every other lighter I've bought and still lights on the first click unlike my Hammer.
     
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  3. pigfoot

    pigfoot Dabs are vaping too!

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    Hmm, that is cheap. I haven't seen the Vector gas for less than $10 online (I guess because that includes shipping). I haven't even gone in a head shop locally, just figured the prices would be crazy.

    Well, from what I've seen the Vector lighters are a notch above Honest. Good feedback and higher price too. Was looking at their stuff but didn't see any goosenecks.
     
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  4. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    My lighter would be great if it was bent and had a external dial. I'll get a gooseneck when this thread picks up pace. All my torch vapes require me to awkward hold the lighter upside and that's not good for the lighter in general.

    My lighter at my LHS was 22 dollars, I'd check out the Volt for a Vector goose.


    But would personally continue doing more research before I settle.
     
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  5. pigfoot

    pigfoot Dabs are vaping too!

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    Wow, that lighter looks surprising similar to the "Sleek" lighter Lotus sells :lol: Wonder who actually makes it, Honest or Vector? I do like that one though.
    [​IMG]

    I just ordered this one:
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    Zico's are supposed to be good, and the price is right, but this one reminds me of an anteater:
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    This is from another thread (Lotus) but so good I had to post it here.
     
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    walrus Well-Known Member

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  7. pigfoot

    pigfoot Dabs are vaping too!

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    So, what happens if you don't purge? The video shows it will allow more fuel in the reservoir, but does it actually cause problems if you don't? That tool looks good, for $5 I'd be all over it :lol:
    My Lotus showed up today, and I was pleasantly surprised with the included Honest lighter, it seems well made, and (this one at least) works fine.
    I ordered from easyvape, and their generic butane turned out to be Xicar "Purofine", the kind used in that vid. Makes no mention of how many times it's filtered, but hopefully it's good stuff.
     
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  8. basement farmer

    basement farmer My face is melting...

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    It won't work very well. It"ll cut out or not even start. Purging removes the excess propellant that is left over from a fill allowing a better subsequent fill.

    If you want to bleed it really well, allow it to warm up. Cooling prior to refill allows you to fill the tank more fully. Try this with an Honest or any other lighter that has a see-thru tank. You'll see (visually) the difference those extra steps make.
     
  9. cybrguy

    cybrguy Lover of natures bounty

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    I may have to own this...
     
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  10. pigfoot

    pigfoot Dabs are vaping too!

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    Looks like @ataxian has one, if you want to inquire about performance.
     
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  11. FlyingLow

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  12. cybrguy

    cybrguy Lover of natures bounty

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    So, I bought a backup torch at a local store. It is a little over 4" tall which is probably between the standup torches and the typical pocket torch. It is a nice little torch, but it doesn't turn off when the button is released. It seems to continue for about an equal time that it was depressed for up to about 12 seconds or so. This seems a little unsafe, or at least inconvenient, meaning it can't just be laid down or put back in my pocket. Is this common for these torches? More common on larger ones?
    [​IMG]
     
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  13. FlyingLow

    FlyingLow Team NO SLEEP!

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    I find that happens on most torches when they are turned up too high.
     
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  14. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    I agree with Flying, does your torch also have a flame lock?
     
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  15. cybrguy

    cybrguy Lover of natures bounty

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    Not sure what a flame lock is. There is a adjustment for the flame that you can see in the pic and a safety on the other side. Is that what you meant by a lock? Then yes, it does. :)
    On turning the adjustment all the way down I still get about a 5/8" flame (it didn't change much) but it shuts down faster, about 3 seconds. I can live with that.

    Wait, the safety is on the same side and is also in the pic. :)
     
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  16. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    Flame lock will keep the flame on when you slide the "lock" on the side. That text does say lock right?
     
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  17. cybrguy

    cybrguy Lover of natures bounty

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    Yes, it does say "Lock". But it only works as a safety preventing the button from being depressed when enabled. Actually, no, you are correct. It works as either a safety or a way to lock it on.
     
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  18. pigfoot

    pigfoot Dabs are vaping too!

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    So what makes an Honest (or any torch) poop out while in use? I can instantly restart it.
     
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  19. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    Air bubbles/pockets?
     
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  20. pigfoot

    pigfoot Dabs are vaping too!

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    Hmm, don't see any air bubbles, and it only does that when the nozzle is pointed down.
     
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  21. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    You don't see air pockets, or bubbles. When you purge your lighter and refill excess air can get in which is why some recommend purging the extra air after a refill.


    When at that angle are you sure the lighter is able to feed from your butane?
     
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  22. slowandsteady

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    A quick picture of the standard Honest that comes with the Lotus in addition to a Zico and Vector both of which are single torches. I still haven't used my Lotus or Hammer with any of these torches, but I'll be fixing that soon.

    Left to Right: Zico Regal T39, Honest, Vector Volt
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  23. cybrguy

    cybrguy Lover of natures bounty

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    Is there a fuel window in that Zico?
     
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  24. slowandsteady

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    Yes. It's hard to see in the picture above, but it is parallel with the "Zico" writing to the right on the backside of the grip
     
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  25. cybrguy

    cybrguy Lover of natures bounty

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    Darn. I was looking for a reason NOT to get it... ;)

    Does it feel as good in your hand as it looks like it would? (OK, here is your chance...)
     
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