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PLENTY Vaporizer

Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by dopefiend, Dec 2, 2011.

  1. Mrb58

    Mrb58 Active Member

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    micro-dosing experiments on the plenty -part two

    Tried using around 0.1 gm on the plenty large chamber with reducer-meh!!! 1.75 sessions 1st to 9-10 second petered out to 6-7 maybe. So looks like in large chamber better put minimum 0.2.

    Still waiting for reducing cap for liquids magazine ( w small liquid pads)

    In the meanwhile - red cap filled 1/3 fresh herb &2/3 abc. Amazing best guess 0.05-0.075 g. To get to couch lock. Session lasted around 40-45 min. Fine yo Med grind firm but not pill pack
     
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  3. Sick Vape

    Sick Vape Thick Vape

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    Very interesting paper. Good data.
    They only used 0.05g of weed in the plenty filling chamber (probably the big one) for their test. :o



    I have an early plenty that could get a little hotter so i thought I open it to see if i can change something.
    [​IMG]
    You can see the bimetal element. You can also see that, I think, it is not a good idea to operate it prolonged in upside down position. I do put it sometimes upside down on a bong, waterpipe.

    Well my technical knowledge is not enough to be able to change temperature or the bimetal thing, so I closed it again.
    Maybe the picture is interesting for some of you.

    Plenty is still my vapo number one :nod:
     
  4. O-G-Reg

    O-G-Reg Space-time aberration

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    Why is prolonged upside down use a problem? Oils building up inside the unit or?
     
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  5. Mrb58

    Mrb58 Active Member

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    Who says that it is ?

    Is it?
     
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  6. Sick Vape

    Sick Vape Thick Vape

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    If you put it upside down the hot air escaping from the heat element goes towards those 2 white cables and the heater indicator light. I guess it is not a good idea. This area is not meant to be heated.

    I think I read somewhere of someone having a problem with an upside down Plenty, but cannot find at the moment.

    I just put it on the bong take a draw and take it off at the end of the draw. So not much heat should go towards those white cables.
     
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  7. ataxian

    ataxian PALE BLUE DOT

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    I have a PLENTY that is in my rotation!

    It’s a 110v plus USA style!
    My ? Can I use it in FRANCE?

    The FLAVOR is really decent!

    @Sick Vape I have a few but I’m surprised on how well it works?
     
  8. Some-new-user

    Some-new-user Well-Known Member

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    @ataxian I'll have to double check my plenty but as far as I remember these units are dedicated to the region/voltage

    Do not plug your 110v plenty in to a European 230v outlet. At the best you will hear a pop/bang followed by deep regret and a faulty plenty. At worst you may cause fire and or further damage.

    There are possibly ways around this - a step-down transformer may help (230 to 110v) but I'm not sure if it's recommended to use these with ANY vape especially S&B products - they have a disclaimer in the manuals regarding extension cords and outlets.

    PLEASE PLAY IT SAFE AND DO NOT USE YOUR VAPORIZER OUTSIDE ITS INTENDED COUNTRY.


    I'm going to go double check my plenty now some new electronics are made with switching power supplies that CAN handle this but from memory the plenty is dedicated to its intended country/voltage.

    I'll be able to tell you for definite in a short while and will edit this post to update

    *EDIT - 100% NO! My plenty is made for 220-240 Volts which covers Europe and some other territories. Your plenty which is compatible with 110 Volts will definitely be damaged by plugging it into an outlet in France. Save yourself a lot of heartache and trouble and find an alternative.
     
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  9. ejackyou

    ejackyou Hamilton

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    Absolutely NOT
    But You can in Quebec?

     
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  10. ataxian

    ataxian PALE BLUE DOT

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    I can use my car inverter there?
     
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  11. Some-new-user

    Some-new-user Well-Known Member

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  12. ataxian

    ataxian PALE BLUE DOT

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  13. Some-new-user

    Some-new-user Well-Known Member

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    Yes, should be fine then.

    If it works with your plenty at the moment then it will work in any 12 volt vehicle outlet - you need to be careful with wattage though. make sure your inverter is capable of handling more watts than your vape.

    Have a good time
     
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  14. ataxian

    ataxian PALE BLUE DOT

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    I didn’t have CANNABIS until 1970 = we grew it 2.
    We did it 4 fun!
    Now 2 MEDICATED properly!

    Thank U 4 helping!

    I will try my PLENTY with a car charger & if it work’s?
     
  15. Old Toker

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    Very informative. Thanks!
    With my technical knowledge....if I didn't break it taking it apart.....I'd still never get it back together correctly and probably have to use it duct/electrical taped together. Thanks again for the photo.
     
  16. LesPlenty

    LesPlenty Well-Known Member

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    I read somewhere that a user had trouble combusting herb on 5 and above, turned out they were using a 110v unit on a 220v circuit. They said they just turned the temp dial down to 3 and it performed fine, bullshit story or what?
     
  17. Mrb58

    Mrb58 Active Member

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    Bs

    Maybe heat at 1for a bit until it burns to a crisp
     
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  18. Some-new-user

    Some-new-user Well-Known Member

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    @LesPlenty

    Possibly. There doesn't seem to be that many sensitive components in the plenty. I just prefer to use extreme caution.

    If it's only a heating element then doubling the voltage input would certainly make the unit run hotter, perhaps too hot for the medical quality we expect from s&b with offgassing from the plastic or the unit running too high.

    ALTHOUGH I thought that the plenty used some sort of thermocouple to monitor/control the temperature and the readout. Maybe it uses something else.

    To put it in to maths. P=V x I

    P = power
    V = volts
    I = resistance

    If I remember correctly my plenty is 110 watts so that's the power. My volts is 230 so the resistance works out about .47 ohms

    To do this in a 110v scenario 110 divided by 110 is 1. So I guess the US version could be calibrated different or they may be using a different element.

    I wonder if anyone can confirm the watt rating (power consultation) on a 110v plenty? Is it 110 watts or 55?

    If it's 110 then the story sort of rings true, it would take around half the power to reach whatever temperature the unit is set to so a setting of 3 would be similar to a 6. In this case a 6 would definitely combust.

    DISCLAIMER TIME - I CONSIDER MY KNOWLEDGE BASIC AND AMATURE ALTHOUGH I AM STUDYING ELECTRONICS AT THE MOMENT SO KNOWLEDGE IS BUILDING MORE DAILY. MY HEAD IS A LITTLE FOGGY TODAY -WORK DRINKS LAST NIGHT SO PLEASE TAKE THIS INFO AS IT IS - RAMBLINGS ORF AN AMATURE ON A FORUM. THIS ISNT EXPERT ADVICE AMD IT ISNT ME TELLING PEOPLE IT WILL BE FINE TO PLUG A 110V DEVICE IN TO A 230V SUPPLY.

    STAY SAFE USE EXTREME CAUTION
     
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  19. Sick Vape

    Sick Vape Thick Vape

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    Closer view of the thing that switches the heating element on and off. (3 Metal strips, one is bent). Its a 220-240V unit.

    It is mechanically connected to the dial.
    The dial is not a potentiometer I think, so it does not affect the voltage. You cannot turn down 220V to 110V by the dial.
    It may be that the heater of a 110V unit can handle 220V and heats at double speed or so. But then I don't see why it would help to put the dial at 3...the temperature to reach is still the same, no?
    Still it might have worked as @LesPlenty read. I wasn't there.

    But it would be enough to just transform the voltage beforehand, no need to adapt the Hz, I think.

    Just another amateur with basic knowledge thinking... it may be all wrong.

    Maybe someone qualified can identify the components.
    [​IMG]

    I think @ataxian 's solution with the car lighter charger (if it can deliver the 110w) is brilliant! I would try that.


    DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME and TRY IT AT YOUR OWN RISK :cool:

    edit: edit
     
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  20. ataxian

    ataxian PALE BLUE DOT

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    I tried and own many vaporizer’s however the PLENTY in part of da rotation (Flavor)

    Thank you 4 looking into my desire 2 use a PLENTY during my trip 2 FRANCE & Da UK. (OXFORD)
     
  21. Sick Vape

    Sick Vape Thick Vape

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    @ataxian
    I love the flavour too. I wonder if it could get even better with an all glass air path.
    Sometimes I can detect a little of what was vaporised with it last time.

    Now that I opened it I like it even more.
    Such a simple clever design all analog and it works great. Better that some digital models.
    I nowadays prefer taking small dense flavourful hits, because of my lung. It just allows that perfectly with the coil. No need to take super long draws.
    It is like they say in the users manual: Take half the draw you could and adapt from there on.
    So cool to see that in '68 you were rocking/surfing while i shat my diapers. Great honour to talk to you.:wave:
     
  22. ataxian

    ataxian PALE BLUE DOT

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    We all have experience since the time we were born.
    We were born on this Pale Blue Dot?
    Just enjoy your life?
    I guess I will bring my car adapter 4 my PLENTY.

    Need 2 stay CIVILIZED
    Diapers= my first son walked across the hwy to the beach at 6:00am? (1 year old)
    I wasn’t responsible! (He is still alive?)
     
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  23. Mrb58

    Mrb58 Active Member

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    A220 to 110 step down transformer/converter or amazon for $35-40
     
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  24. ataxian

    ataxian PALE BLUE DOT

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    Thank U!

    I was trying the PLENTY at different heat settings:

    6.5 = too warm
    6.0 = not bad
    5.5 = my sweet spot

    MEDICATED was da point, however I’m so STONED!
    AFAGANI CHEESE (wow) FLAVOR CITY, California OG (“OCEAN GROWN”)
     
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  25. ejackyou

    ejackyou Hamilton

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    Guess You've never seen one, Let alone tried?
     
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