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PLENTY Vaporizer

Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by dopefiend, Dec 2, 2011.

  1. oyster

    oyster Member

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    is it possible to use has with the plenty vaporizer?
    Any suggestion appreciated
     
  2. Razshiro

    Razshiro Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately no, i had always bad result with "hash" in the Plenty, i have better result in the Mighty ... but the best for hash for me is my butane vape !! ;)
     
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  3. oyster

    oyster Member

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    Thank you. Such a pity though :(


    I thought perhaps with some extra accessories it could have been possible
     
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  4. Used2use

    Used2use Sometimes to stupid to become a fool

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    shure it works, u can fit up to 3g in there ;) but there are many different types of hash and prices...
    - if you have access eg to cheap standard pressed maroc (the more dry type) that works really good and easy just crumbled in the normal bowl, the reducer might be even better for that - makes it pretty much a mighty bowl (capsules are super clean for that purpose), so i can't second @Razshiro with that (ok it gets a few degrees less hot)
    In general hash is a bit more tricky to vape, no matter what vape u use. Many prefer butane vapes with higher temps for hash, but i've grown apart from that (meaning too high temps, the vaponic is one of the tastiest vapes for hash) and stay at max 200C. The more melty/oily hash types will need recrumbling a few times during the session that way, but taste is way better than at higher temps :2c:
     
  5. oyster

    oyster Member

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    Used2use
    . I have been warned that it might leak down and might damage the vaporizer...even with the reducer..how would you prevent that?
     
  6. Used2use

    Used2use Sometimes to stupid to become a fool

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    as always it depends how viscous/runny the oil is - but it's the same with all s&b vapes, either put a liquid pad on top of the bottom chamber screen, or use a dosing capsule with liquid pad in the bottom and then load onto the liquid pad to prevent leaking down into the heater.
    Traditional hash is mostly not so melty that it would run trough even a normal screen, but it can clogg it really fast and tends to make a dirty mess in the bowl after time...
    So i would recommend using dosing caps with liquid pad, the easiest method to keep it clean in the long run ;)
    Some ppl even use e-liquid on the pads, wouldn't recommend that bc it could rlly run trough but it also seems to work...
     
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  7. oyster

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    Thanks. Im not expert with accessories. :D. Are these the dosing capsules you are referring too?
    https://www.storz-bickel.com/eu/en/magazine-with-8-dosing-capsules.html

    Is it not going to make a mess even with the dosing capsules?
    How about non traditional hash but the soft one, will it work as well?
    Sorry about all my question...wanna make sure not to ruin the machine :D
     
  8. Used2use

    Used2use Sometimes to stupid to become a fool

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    almost - these ones already have the liquid pads in them (and btw u only need the chamber housing and the metal reducer insert to have a 2. bowl)

    https://www.storz-bickel.com/eu/en/store/acc/magazine-with-8-dosing-capsules-for-liquids.html

    there are 3 sizes of liquid pads 30mm (plenty/cano bowl), 15mm (mighty/reducer bowl), 13mm (capsules)

    It all depends on the hash type/consistency how it vapes, the more soft/melty types (can also be 'traditional' there's just too much unstandardized vocabulary ;) ) often benefit from dumping out of the bowl and recrumbling during the session as it 'dries out' - capsules are perfect for that and contain the possible mess, normal screens would gump up here pretty fast. The more dry, sandy types are much easier and don't affect the screen at all... just experiment it's fun:science: - i also played a bit with a diy 'nail bed' for soft hash made out of needles
    don't worry i tried very hard with (more than) max loads of all types, there is simply nothing to break in the heater airpath even if something would leak through...
     
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  9. Ttthomas

    Ttthomas New Member

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    Freaking out right now because after finally giving into buying after watching several stellar youtube reviews of the Plenty vaporizer, I'm stumped as to why I can't get high off it even after several hits! I am currently a bong user who wanted take things to the next level so as to stretch my stash. I use high thc levels to treat my severe ptsd and anxiety so it's kinda imperative I learn how to use this quick. Any tips to getting potent draws from the Plenty or was this just not made for high thc use? Is temp a factor in potency? I stay between 6-7 otherwise hardely any vapor comes out.
     
  10. Used2use

    Used2use Sometimes to stupid to become a fool

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    Have u looked in the Plenty thread? - lots of info there...
    http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/plenty-vaporizer.4657/
    but for the first troubleshoot:
    -liquid pad on top of the load to prevent 'shifting' - keep it spread out even over the screen
    -only the regular bowl? there is also a reducer bowl that works with capsules...
    -14mm male glass fits with the original seal instead of the cooling coil on the black chamber top, so eg a 14mm male 2 male adapter makes it work on any glass ;)
     
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  11. Ttthomas

    Ttthomas New Member

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    I saw the Plenty thread but to be honest wasn't sure where in the thread to start.
    I was careful to use the liquid pad since I didn't fill the herb chamber. I've heard some reviewers say it's not worth using if you can't fill it full.
    This is first I've heard of the Plenty reducer bowl. I wonder if this work significantly better than the included liquid pad (?)

    Attaching it to a glass piece would for sure boost potency, yes?
    (Questions for anyone willing to answer, thanks in advance!)

    Modnote: This post and the three after it have been merged here from another thread
     
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  12. cloudsosmoke

    cloudsosmoke Well-Known Member

    Just a quick suggestion - You could try very long and very slow draws - 10 sec maybe
     
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  13. Used2use

    Used2use Sometimes to stupid to become a fool

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    well potency is relative, but u said
    so i thought using it with the same tools might help changing habbits ;) 0.2 in the reducer gives Plenty of rips :brow:

    It works with loads from 0.05 to +3g! i would say this part is the game changer for small loads in the plenty:
    https://www.storz-bickel.com/eu/en/store/py/plenty-filling-chamber-with-reducer.html
    it makes the bowl dimensions similar to mighty/crafty but better airflow :rockon:
    - also the point cloudsosmoke mentioned, slower draw speed is better for smaller loads in the large chamber with liquid pad bc the herb layer is thinner....
     
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  14. SloJimFizz

    SloJimFizz Unknown Member

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    Welcome @Ttthomas
    Fill the chamber while the Plenty heats up, when nearing end of green to red, put chamber on and start long slow draws. First couple may be whispy, but it will get going. Keep drawing and taking pulls after you hear the heater click off. If you want to take a break, pull the chamber off. or pull the trigger till the heater turns back on and go for round 2. I prefer my Plenty sans water.
    I would get the hang of it before you dump more money on a reducer. You should be able to get massive lung fulls with anywhere from .25 up to a full gram in stock chamber. The Reducer chamber is really nice though and I'd recommend getting one eventually.
    Check out the Plenty thread for more tips.
    Are you trying to quit combusting and crossover to vaping, or just sprinkling in some strange to keep the head guessing?
     
  15. Ttthomas

    Ttthomas New Member

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    Do you recommend to use the liquid pad when not filling the chamber? I have tried both with and without and haven't seen much difference.
    Also, I'm guessing the chamber wasn't meant to be packed tight?
    After reading lots of great reviews I think I'll purchase a reducer with capsules. I tried my Plenty more, filling the chamber loosely to the brim (while the unit was off). And taking long 8-12 second draws, which were not thick clouds by any means. It got me maybe as medicated as a bowl in a bong would (maybe less?) so this doesn't seem to save me any herb which is partly why I bought it.
    Think I'll go back to using my bong for now until the reducer comes in. Really hoping that does the trick so I can experience the highs and herb efficiency everyone seems to rave about with this thing.

    I bought it hoping to completely replace my bong with something more powerful(potent) (Smoking joints or pipes does nothing to me. Gave those up long ago)

    Vaporizers, is there something I'm missing? Can a vaporizer not outdo a bong in mind blowing rips? I don't mean thick but "potent". Is a vaporizer high different than a bong high and I'm just missing it?


     
  16. Used2use

    Used2use Sometimes to stupid to become a fool

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    The most important thing is that the load doesn't move when the unit is used. If there are spots on the screen where the air can pass through without touching herb it makes the hits whispy...
    So it needs to be filled good to be used without the liquid pad.

    That was somehow my thinking too at the beginning - simply start vaping and save 50% with the better efficiency and potency...
    Well it's not that easy, it took me several attempts and it takes at least a month without any combustion to get the full vaping high - don't know if you are also a tobacco mixer, like i was, but that makes it much harder. Actually i used more than double of my normal amount during the transition phase, habbits play a huge role here - but there is light at the end of the tunnel, now i would say i'm down to 60% of my smoking amount with a much cleaner and enjoyable high than before. If i had to do a t-break i always went to cigarettes during my combustion times, now with vaping it's actually pretty easy to stop.
    And yes, it is a different high compared to combustion - those 'effects' u get right after a combustion hit is from formed toxins and they are really addictive and take time to get out of your system (and even more time to get out of your brain).
    But no combustion form is more efficient than vaporizing - that's no esoteric talking, it's scientific fact
     
  17. Ttthomas

    Ttthomas New Member

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    Out of curiosity, what do you use now?

     
  18. ktmstick

    ktmstick Well-Known Member

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    Wispy hits are usually either from the load shifting inside or from drawing too hard. The slower you draw the more time the heater has to heat the air and then the air has more time to heat the herb. Also a harder draw will dilute the vapor with more air, again leaving you with wispy draws. Draw as slowly as you can almost until you can't hear any air movement. And remember it's not all about clouds. The effects will take time to manifest as there is no combustion chemicals to give the light headed initial hit. Good luck and don't give up. It is truly amazing to break the chains of combustion.
     
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  19. Used2use

    Used2use Sometimes to stupid to become a fool

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    it depends but an average normal day i would say i've gone down from 1g to 0,6g - i had the habbit to smoke that g in around 20 'toothpick' style tobacco spliffs...
    But sometimes i can be a real piggy and evaporate 10g hash with the plenty in an evening :sherlock:
    Actually i have 2 plentys, one for every house :D - but that's another thing one vape is never enough, it's addictive to get more and the saved tobacco money needs to be spent somehow :evil:
    i'm a bit over 2,5 years tobacco free now, by my calculation i've only spent the money of 3 years tobacco consumption on vapes so far - break even is near :lol: (ok i could sell some, but somehow i started collecting :brow:)
     
  20. Ttthomas

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    I just got ahold of some wax from a friend. I wonder how well it will work in these. The wax I have is very hard(almost shatter). Think it'll work with just the liquid pad?

     
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  21. Used2use

    Used2use Sometimes to stupid to become a fool

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    yes i mean the pads are made for that - but concentrates is somehow a bit 'suboptimal' in the plenty, it will extract most of the taste but won't give those huge clouds u could get with higher temps. Should work a bit better in the reducer but in the end it is primarily designed for herbs
     
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  22. Razshiro

    Razshiro Well-Known Member

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    I was wrong:nod::bowdown:, I can not say that the Plenty is bad with hash, it works but I still prefer the Mighty maybe because of the shorter airpath ...
     
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  23. Ttthomas

    Ttthomas New Member

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    Just tried out the dosing capsule and chamber reducer. Finally results! I did notice a lot of herb dust on my top screen despite using the capsule lid. I wonder if its due to pulling too hard or filling the capsule too full.

    What is the best way to hold this device while pulling/inhaling? Vertical? Horizontal? Angled? Is there a wrong way?
     
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  24. justcametomind

    justcametomind IT'S TIME!

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    Sometimes I also see a lot of pollen out of the capsule top and on the CU screen. I think there’s nothing wrong other than our herb being full of cannabinoids.
     
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  25. Used2use

    Used2use Sometimes to stupid to become a fool

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    A few pages back choochoocharlie describes his screen nippeling to hold the caps in place, then it doesnt matter how u hold it. I use a nippled screen and a 2. fine screen on top, that way it is pressed against the reducer rim and nothing can escape.
    Max load size is to fill reducer without capsule,( i prefer that ;) )- min load is to cover the screen and put an empty capsule bottom (without the lid) on top...
    Pretty much the same as crafty/mighty with reducer, it just extracts faster with pure convection
     
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