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PLENTY Vaporizer

Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by dopefiend, Dec 2, 2011.

  1. phried

    phried Well-Known Member

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    When I have a 36W heater that outperforms a 110W heater and in the process waste the effects I’m expecting, it just makes me wonder why. I’m just sharing because I think people should be aware of the design limitations - I’m just offering my own insights based on my own experiences.

    Not a fan of wasting time or material, that’s why I can’t settle for less. Two reducers and extra ovens ensure no downtimes with my Plenty. One is always clean or soaking in Iso, while the other is in use.

    Whatever floats your boat I guess? Mine just needs a very specific way of floating. And people really never know until they try it, right.
     
  2. blackstone

    blackstone Well-Known Member

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    I'm enjoying reading all the ways the reducer can be used, and the tips for top screen shape and capsules too.
    Now I want a Plenty just to fool around and find my preferred method!

    I was doing good for vapes, but there's a used Plenty going that I could probably afford and it's itching me to go for it.
    Just had a question or two for operators here!:

    Because it's direct draw convection, does the Plenty sometimes taste even better than the Mighty and Volcano?
    Or as good as, or better than, a Solo1/2, Air 2, or some other new fandangled "next level" shiny portables!?


    I'd probably still aim to buy a Haze Square or maybe Bndls Tera in the new year when they hit our shops,
    but for a flavorful fun toy,
    should I aim for this lightly used Plenty, or instead a new Air 2 or even a titanium GH that I came across?
    Would I be missing out on something with even better flavor somewhere?

    For the money, something's telling me get the Plenty, quick!
    TIA
     
  3. Used2use

    Used2use Landrace racer

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    a used plenty is a no brainer - u will get pretty much the same money for it a few years later ;)
     
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  4. Friend Man

    Friend Man Active Member

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    For my money the taste is better with the Solo, this is the one area where it wins. Its literally just vapor traveling 3 inches through glass. Plenty vapor travels through a lot more stuff and so can taste a bit plastic-y/metallic at first, until a good layer of reclaim has built up. My advice would be to replace the mouthpiece asap as this makes a big difference taste wise. The taste with the Plenty is still great, but it can't compare to a vapor route as short as Solo's.

    BUT Plenty is so much fun to mod and mess around with, and the 0 draw resistance has to be experienced really. The difference in taste is in no way comparable to the difference in vapor amount and quality - Plenty wins hands down... the taste with the Solo is fantastic, but the huge resistance means you have to shallow toke for 10 seconds or so each hit.

    If it's purely taste you are after, I would look for something like the Air/Solo 2 with a route of

    green>glass>mouth

    Instead of

    green>metal chamber>plastic funnel>rubber tube>steel coil>plastic mouthpiece>mouth

    Like the Plenty. But Plenty wins in every other area, and I'd far rather sacrifice a little taste for a huge reduction in draw resistance:2c:
     
  5. phried

    phried Well-Known Member

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    This is the reason why i’m looking at the Air II, the Plenty provides tasty hits but yes, a shorter pathway does make for a more flavorful experience. And the primary reason one should be getting a Plenty is for its vapor production and low draw resistance, with results that are clinically precise every single damn time. That, and the ability to use capsules on most of the S&B product family. I run my vapor through tubing, glass, and water - while it provides an endless amount of smooth vapor, purity is sacrificed to an extent.

    Very happy with my Plenty, finally have a plug-in desktop unit that won’t combust my material. EQ’s relegated to blowing bags, with the occasional single- or double-hit extractions (risking combustion).

    And no stirring. Hate stirring, so messy and inefficient.

    @blackstone If its cheap and in good condition I’d go for it. Issues with S&B products arise from their battery-operated units, desktops are rock solid (you know - you have a Volcano). And its totally great for bigger group sessions, less need to refill the oven over time (native oven).

    Options are always good.
     
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  6. blackstone

    blackstone Well-Known Member

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    Thank you all very much for your responses, they make a lot of sense.

    I think I could get this Plenty for a bit less than an Air 2, and it seems like a very low use situation from the ad so it probably makes sense to try and get it.
    A full Mighty bowl/capsule already deals me a severe blow, so I have some idea of what velocity power to expect!
    I thought it could taste a little better than the Mighty, think I did read that it's smoother.
    Can also relate about the Arizer great taste with glass tube, I'm back enjoying my Solo now and then.
    I'm going to put an offer on this Plenty and maybe decide on a tasty portable next year.

    It's also a great excuse to order some other S&B parts along with a reduced Plenty chamber!
    I think I could have great fun with the regular chamber too while learning the ropes!
    Thanks for the help deciding.

    Just the black tip piece or the whole coil part?
    I did wonder if the coil part is actually metal inside or lined with tubing of some type?

    With an isolated air path, the Air II should taste even better than early Solo and Air!
    Would surely be a pleasure to live with.
    I had always wanted a plenty but was afraid in case the bowl was too big, I know now what to expect I think and am not afraid of a healthy macrodose here and there now too!
    Imagining I will enjoy that nice convection smell and tastes like from a Volcano.
    This Plenty would be great cheap fun for some christmas vaping, as long as they will accept an offer on it!
    And I enjoy the flavor from whips and bags, so I should enjoy Plenty a lot.
    I think it was meant to be!
    Thanks again everyone for your advice and help!
     
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  7. Friend Man

    Friend Man Active Member

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    Just the plastic tip, who knows how they do it but the coil is amazing in terms of cooling your vapor. I went for an Arizer whip and mouthpiece and haven't looked back:


    If you already own and use capsules then the Plenty is a dream. I set up 8 caps on a Friday night, then I don't touch weed all day Saturday. It's so much cleaner and quicker and easier.

    Personally I use the Plenty mostly on weekends, just because it's a beast! I was getting too groggy on weekdays, it gets me far higher than the Solo. Now that the weather is getting cooler and the whip is naturally cold all the time, I can rinse a whole capsule in about 3 pulls.

    If you get it, have fun, and let us know what you think
     
  8. Used2use

    Used2use Landrace racer

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    with taste it s a lot of personal adaptation - for some short path tastes best, to me it s to harsh without some fresh air mixed in likr vapman /vaponic - cooled vapor tastes better to me, but u could use the plenty with a glass stem instead of the coil for direct comparison
    Maybe the coil also fits on arizer stems ? it works with vapcaps...
     
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  9. Friend Man

    Friend Man Active Member

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    Not a bad idea! Though I think the Arizer stem directly on the funnel would not cool the vapor enough...I'm pretty sure the shallow toke of the Solo stem is designed so that you only take a little vapor at a time, and it can be sufficiently cooled despite it's short journey.

    The Plenty coil itself is absolutely fine now that it has some reclaim in there...I'm going to try the stem out of curiosity this weekend though
     
  10. blackstone

    blackstone Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately the used unit I was aiming for seems to have sold, maybe the new owner was also reading this thread and got the good advice here!

    The whole thing has really revved me up for a Plenty and a new unit isn't that much more cash.
    I'll see what happens in the next few weeks.
    Thanks for the advice on it.

    Another unit that I could buy new a bit cheaper is a herbalAire Elite full package on sale, even though a 'Lite', whip only package would have done.
    I was always intrigued by these HA units too for relaxing and taking hits as needed.

    Interestingly, one little gripe I saw mentioned is that the HA Elite only goes to 200C, and I know early Plenty users had a similar gripe (but maybe Plenty goes to 210c now?)
    Maybe both companies felt that direct draw convection gets a little uncomfortable above 200C!?
    It sounds like something I could live with and enjoy though, good flavors with no scorch tastes!

    Another even cheaper unit is the LSV and it must have lovely tastes but is large enough in use. It also doesn't get mentioned often anymore.

    Of these, I think the Plenty might be the best blend of durability, performance, taste, and neatness/ user friendliness.
    I'll take this as a chance to save up some money and study the other offerings.
    But the thought of a brand new Plenty just for me is quite exciting!
     
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  11. Friend Man

    Friend Man Active Member

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    I got a brand new Plenty and loved 'making it my own'. If you do decide to get one I'm sure you'll be into it. For me it was between the Plenty and the Arizer desktop, I was leaning Arizer but after a while I couldn't get the Plenty pigtail out of my mind. I have absolutely 0 regrets, it's excellent
     
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  12. helmutshelmet

    helmutshelmet New Member

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    I've been having "plenty" of trouble with my Plenty. For one thing, this forum is the first place I'm reading that people had trouble with the liquid pad as I am - only dry herbs are available to me, and very expensive, so I HAVE to use the liquid pad. Go ahead and google it for yourselves, you'll not find a single review outside this forum that says that you need to fill the chamber or that the liquid pad with a partly-filled chamber gives lower results. Every single review and every single other forum claims it all works perfectly and no difference between filling the chamber entirely or using the liquid pad. Hard to believe that hundreds of people are all being paid by S&B to hide this fact, so maybe it's an individual difference. So anyone thinking of getting the Plenty, BEWARE of this!!

    I'm just not finding the Plenty to be consistent at all. My first try with it was the day after I quit smoking spliffs, less than 24 hours between last spliff with tobacco and all and the start of the vaporising. That session went extremely well. However since then, I haven't felt a thing, it's really just wasted my herbs. Same or different temperature and amount of materials and all that, absolutely nothing has made a difference. I know the machine is working correctly because of how the avb looks.

    But yeah no it doesn't conserve materials at all.
     
  13. Aimless Ryan

    Aimless Ryan Came to read about grinders; fucked combustion

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    I don't have a Plenty, but I'm pretty sure I read that the owner's manual says to use the liquid pad with small loads. Pretty sure I've seen diagrams from the owner's manual.
     

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