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PLENTY Vaporizer

Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by dopefiend, Dec 2, 2011.

  1. SloJimFizz

    SloJimFizz Unknown Member

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    Definitely not disposable or a one timer. These are a S&B product after all, compatible with the Mighty, Crafty, and I do believe the Volcano has a reducer that takes the capsule too.
    These are pretty solid, a little tight to open at first but they get easier with use. They can be bent out of round, but easy to bend back. They don't even really get dirty. Consume, dump abv, stash till reload day.
     
  2. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    VERY easy to clean.
    turn it over, and dump out dry abv.
    in worst case scenario of resins, dip them in Iso and wipe them dry.
     
  3. ChooChooCharlie

    ChooChooCharlie Hobo

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    As @SloJimFizz said, the capsules fit all S&B vapes. The Plenty's reducer chamber has the same dimensions as the Mighty's native chamber. Caps fit both perfectly. As @Vitolo said, I found that shaping the Plenty's upper screen into a convex nipple keeps either the capsule or a loose herb load in place. If the upper screen is left in its default concave shape, herb spills and makes a mess, or the capsule can be unseated by either draw suction or holding position -- air will then bypass and dilute your hit.

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    This is my capsule opening method: Leverage
    If you are right handed, cradle capsule with left forefinger, then apply vice-like pressure with left thumb tip just below capsule lid. Now use right thumb nail as a pry -- pry straight up -- think leverage, it feels like it opens with an invisible hinge

    Your right forefinger tip helps steady the lid as you are prying. If you have new capsules, they are difficult. Abuse/squeeze new capsules slightly out-of-round, then reshape them roughly back to round. Helps opening. After a while it's easy.

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    Yes, they do get a discolored build-up, as you can see. Caps on right have seen steady action for over a year. For kicks, I tried scrubbing film off capsule walls with magic eraser. Don't bother -- not worth the effort. They're cheap.

    I'm not a Storz-Bickel marketing rep, but I play one on FC.
     
  4. Friend Man

    Friend Man Active Member

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    Thanks for the responses, and thanks a LOT for the detailed explanation with photos ChooChooCharlie! The caps looks more robust than I was expecting, and that's an clear, concise guide for using them. It looks like even if there is build up or discolouration it doesn't affect their use at all. Thanks again, I really appreciate it.

    Just ordered the reducer, 8 caps and wear n tear set, can't wait to give em a whirl!
     
  5. ChooChooCharlie

    ChooChooCharlie Hobo

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    @Friend Man -- Ordering advice for you and other readers:

    Get the reducer with the chamber shown below

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    Not just the reducer alone:

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    This way it's an easy swap depending on your mood. No struggles with metal reducer, no broken orange tabs. And, you get an extra upper black housing, good for keeping a clean substitute with screen when too lazy to clean. Hey, I just rhymed like Fezzik in the Princess Bride. Also, because the reducer with chamber costs more, I get a bigger commission check. Almost reached my sales goals this quarter -- when I get to diamond level status, I get a tour of the factory and a t-shirt!
     
  6. Friend Man

    Friend Man Active Member

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    Hahaha, yeah, I ordered that one... I took one look at the 'loose' reducer and realized the nimble precision required for switching would not be suitable for my ogre-like mitts. Also this way, with the wear and tear set as well, I'll have spares for every component (not including the main body).

    I forgot to ask, do you need Mighty/Crafty screens for the reducer, or does it fit over a regular Plenty screen?
     
  7. ChooChooCharlie

    ChooChooCharlie Hobo

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    Here's the underside of the reducer, propped up against my breakfast glass. It comes with the screen installed. Same as screen in bottom of Mighty, and like that screen, I've never changed or cleaned it.

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    (the free t-shirt says: "Dean Vortices are Cool")
     
  8. Friend Man

    Friend Man Active Member

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    Yours looks spotless and I imagine if it i combined with the capsules it won't matter too much, but can it not be removed at all? I replace the Plenty ones fairly frequently due to resin build up

    EDIT: after looking at the S&B website I can see they sell 'Plenty screens (small)' precisely for the reducer, no sweat
     
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  9. ChooChooCharlie

    ChooChooCharlie Hobo

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    @Friend Man - Late response to your post, been driving between NM and CO, now in CO again. Ever book two hotel rooms for over a month during tourist season in Colorado Springs? Big bucks at $170/night. Med emergency with bro. And people complain about the price of vapes and herb! Oy vey.

    Yes, the screen is replaceable. I see you found them. Bottom screens don't get dirty or clogged if you use capsules and avoid concentrates that may leak down.

    After session, dumping the capsule out of Plenty into ashtray is fun. Hold Plenty with left hand, use left thumb to keep orange chamber on unit, while detaching coil/black housing. Then invert Plenty over ashtray as spent capsule falls out. Allow capsule to cool for 20 seconds before touching it.

    Go ahead, see if you can sorta drop/place a second capsule in for round two -- be careful though, the steel reducer is very hot.

    Plenty capsule session will finish in less time and with fewer draws than Mighty cap session because of its increased flow volume. But, that could just be my draw style using Plenty, as I like long, slow 20 second draws for the big cool clouds. No need, of course. Just preference. Folks sensitive to either draw restriction or hot vapor will enjoy the Plenty's cool, open flow.
     
  10. Friend Man

    Friend Man Active Member

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    Yeah Charlie I'm lucky we still have universal healthcare here (for now anyway). I hope everything is alright with your brother.

    I'm with you on the big pulls, I don't see the caps lasting too long but I only ever use a flat 'carpet' of herb in the bottom of the Plenty as it is. I use the Solo as a portable so nothing will be as economical as that anyway. Thanks again for all your help, I'll be sure to report in once everything arrives
     
  11. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    Hi folks, any way to know how old is my Plenty without any receipts (it's a 2nd hand unit)? the SN of mine is P 000 1xx ....

    How much is repairs+shipping if something fail (if out of warranty)?

    The Plenty is a ripper!
     
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  12. ChooChooCharlie

    ChooChooCharlie Hobo

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    @PPN - My Plenty is old, bought used. Don't know manufacture date.
    Serial number is P 510 244

    You probably have the EU Celsius version, and they may have a different numbering scheme.
    Mine has only three ISO safety icons -- it's missing the "keep dry" umbrella icon.

    If your Plenty's handle switch is "fixable" like mine, that would be a good thing to mention when trying to sell it. But, who knows, maybe my Plenty has been malfunctioning in this regard, and I'm just lucky. Never have to release and repress switch, I just hold it.

    You may want to send an email to S&B, Deutschland, and ask its age and general repair costs for an out-of-warranty Plenty.

    Je te dis merde!
     
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  13. cloudsosmoke

    cloudsosmoke Well-Known Member

    @PPN

    i have EU Celsius version - SN P 011 442
    bought new from vape shop jan 2016
    - so approx 1.5 years old
     
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  14. Friend Man

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    The caps and reducer came today! They are sturdy little fellows, no need to worry about crushing them. I've set them up with the nipple on the screen as in the thread. I grind very fine, down to dust/powder. About half an hour ago I vaped about half the amount I normally would with the non reducer bowl, which filled maybe 2/3 of the cap. Initial impressions:


    - The unit fells a lot more solid with that extra weight at the top, the design works well
    - inhaling is restricted, which works to its favor. I get it now: it doesn't matter that the herb isn't flat because the compromised inhale means I am drawing heat through the bowl for longer.
    - It will undoubtedly be more economical than the regular bowl because of this
    - It's probably because I replaced the whip and mouthpiece too (after about 6 months), but the taste is better
    - The ABV is considerably brighter than the ABV from the reducer-less bowl. I'll see if I can get more out of it next time (I did-nice and brown now)
    - One downside: no 'hit' feeling like with the reducer-less bowl, but it's probably a case of getting used to the restriction like the Solo. It's early days yet, I'm going to experiment over the weekend

    So far so good, big pulls and just as effective with less material, and it's nice having 8 lined up for tomorrow with no fuss. Good stuff!
     
  15. SloJimFizz

    SloJimFizz Unknown Member

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    Having a couple capsules now. :cheers:
    Whilst experimenting this weekend, I suggest you load two of those capsules to the top. I tried the 2/3 full capsule and was not a fan. The weed gets to swirling in the capsule, just wasn't hitting me like the big bowl with the reducer. Don't know if is the same as air getting between an unnippled screen and the capsule.
    I became a big fan of the capsule after I started filling the capsules full. Not tight full, but fill just past the top, and let the lid pack it down slightly. :whoa:
     
  16. ChooChooCharlie

    ChooChooCharlie Hobo

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    I also have had mixed results with partial capsule loads. Now I always fill them, with a very light tamp, usually right around 0.15g

    Attention, capsule lovers: @Ratchett has listed his capsule filling tray on the delta3d studios site. Ordered mine, but it's waiting for me back in my NM mailbox. Hope someone out there can get one and share their filling experience. The tray is designed for full capsules loads. Tray comes with a tamper tool to neaten the fill, so putting lids on is easier. Caps will all be filled equally and consistently.

    Now for something completely different, a side snide comment:
    Page 18 from the Plenty user instructions is my favorite. First paragraph along with the warning text box look like they were written back in the days when dead-man-switches were manly dead-man-switches, without the girly-man extra safety release and repress! Simple.

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    Why, oh why, did they need to make the switch in the switch such a bitch?! My gut tells me it's a CE safety compliance issue, after early reports of handle switch fixation. (seems like I too have a fixation on the switch)
     
  17. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    Looks like mine is one of the earlier units.... I like that!
     
  18. Friend Man

    Friend Man Active Member

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    Yup, filling it just past the brim made a huge difference! Big hits as with the normal chamber but it uses way less. I've been pulling on this one for about 20 minutes! Nice one @SloJimFizz !
     
  19. SloJimFizz

    SloJimFizz Unknown Member

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    Glad we could help. Didn't want you to get jaded on the capsules as I was for a spell.
    I'm merely a student in this thread. Most of the thanks go to @ChooChooCharlie and @Vitolo. Nice, helpful community this whole forum is.
     
  20. Friend Man

    Friend Man Active Member

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    Then cheers to ChooChooCharlie and Vitolo too! It's working a treat, this is great.
     
  21. Friend Man

    Friend Man Active Member

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    Hello again, sorry to clog up the board.

    I used the caps all weekend, I love 'em. The Plenty is so much cleaner and fuss-free now. I'm not finding the caps fiddly, and it's way more economical this way.

    HOWEVER, sometimes the herb still looks quite green after use. I can have the unit turned up to 7 and vape what tastes and feels like air for ages, only to find some of the herb remains barely touched afterwards. Any tips in this regard, or is it just a case of getting used to them?

    Thanks again!
     
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  22. whatitdew

    whatitdew Vapes R Great

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    Lately I have been using one of these wood trays I've had for a couple years for a Plenty Stand

    Tray sideways on the edge of table
    I sit the Plenty on the back cut out notch part ((where the phone and rollies are in pic, sorry having the hardest time trying to describe that lol) with the edge of the Plenty cord hanging down off the table. Still,with cleaning brush as kickstand. Then still enough space to leave hot coil next to unit in the main tray part and the Plenty chamber will fit perfectly in the grinder cutout ( or you can put your grinder. Or sometimes I use that spot to eject spent capsules. (I know I should just take a picture dammit haha. Be so much easier than trying to describe haha)

    Shipping for non us rsidents was ridiculous tho and I remember I had a few small customer service issues
    Back when ordering so not sure how much I actually recommend buying direct though.



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  23. ChooChooCharlie

    ChooChooCharlie Hobo

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    If I were answering Plenty support emails, following a branching Y/N diagnostic chart, I would be forced to ask the obvious question about temperature. A new owner might not understand the attention required to restart the heater. But you are a veteran, so, I'm stumped by your intermittent green abv. Please forget I said that, as I may lose my support position -- one must not admit to being stumped. So, instead of coming up with a good answer for you, I'll begin rambling on about screen shape...

    What shape is your upper screen?

    Before the reducer, I never cared about the upper screen. Pushed it into place with my thumb. Naturally it becomes bowed inward, concave, because of my thumb.

    I'm guessing there is at least a mm or two greater distance from the bowl when the screen is left in this concave shape. Wiggle room. Not good. Put on your X-Ray specs and watch the capsule lift ever so slightly out of the reducer during draws, especially as you tilt Plenty back. Air will seek out that relatively large gap, partially bypassing your load and diluting hits.

    Direct loading into reducer without capsule is a fun way to experiment with screen shape:

    The load remains neatly within the reducer's bowl after session with an outward pushed, convex (or nipple'd) upper screen.

    Then try similar direct load session, but leave the screen bowed in, concave. After session get pissed off at the green/brown mixed mess left in the reducer's "moat," because the herb has space to get by the reducer's raised ring.

    Please rate this support response highly (5 stars are always appreciated), when you are surveyed later.
     
  24. Friend Man

    Friend Man Active Member

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    Yeah I'm 'nippling' the screen, the way i'm testing that is, when the orange and black components of the 'nozzle' are screwed together with the capsule inside, I gently push the capsule through the screen at the bottom, and I can feel it pushing back, so it's held in place.

    I think I was still leaving too much of a gap in the capsule...I'm filling it to the point that I can see little bits sticking out through the holes in the cap now, and it's working fine. I'm just stuffing them full and popping the lid on, with no tamping.

    I think it also helps to go for a couple of 'taster' runs: I have to remember I'm not just heating the herb now, but also the reducer and the cap. Whereas I used to start on 5 and just keep building, now I'm finding it useful to go for a couple of initial pulls at 4, just to get the heat circulating, before vaping proper. Gonna test more on this.

    rate: *****, exceptional service. I'm writing to Storz personally
     
  25. SloJimFizz

    SloJimFizz Unknown Member

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    S&B are lucky to have him. :D
    With the capsules, I'm riding heat level 7 all the time. I'll keep the whole chamber off till the temp needle gets in the red zone. Load the whole chamber on, and do a pull or two to get things rolling before the first click off. Continue yanks usually till the second heat cycle ends and that capsule is winding down. Let that take hold before I decide if I want round 2, which I won't load till the next heat up cycle is in the red zone again.
    Sometimes one capsule is plenty, sometimes I need the 2nd to kick me over the edge. :whoa:
     

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