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pesticides in buds

Discussion in 'Ask FC' started by stinkytofus, Sep 8, 2017.

  1. stinkytofus

    stinkytofus Well-Known Member

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    have you guys been aware of the fact that the buds you've been getting, doesnt matter from where, is sprayed with pesticides? many of the pesticides used are not approved, organic weed sounds like something thats not possible to get atm, are you guys... concerned? whether you're vaping it or turning it into cannabutter/coconut oil?
     
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  2. Rebelistic

    Rebelistic Well-Known Member

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    I would be concerned but mine is deffinately organic ;)

    I'm in the UK but I thought in legal places there was some kind of organic certification? Organic must certainly be possible if not widely available.
     
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  3. howie105

    howie105 Well-Known Member

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    No I know exactly what goes onto my MJ and I urge those with a concern about pesticides to look after their own needs and safety.
     
  4. Morty

    Morty Well-Zoned Member

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    Using a bubbler w/ a decent amount of diffusion & adding some cotton in the mouthpiece would help some. Kind of like SI Pipes McFinns Triple Filtered bubbler, but you probably wouldn't need the carbon since your vaporizing & not combusting. It will totally kill the flavor though, & filter out a good amount of THC as well.
     
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  5. Accept

    Accept Well-Known Member

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    Agreed - this should be a big concern for those not growing your own, especially with inhalation exposure.

    Every bud that comes out of this closet is veganic!

    Many pesticides are fat soluble. Remember DDT bioaccumulating in eagles and ruining their eggs? Doubt a bubbler's going to help much with these.
     
  6. stinkytofus

    stinkytofus Well-Known Member

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    Is there a way to get rid of the pesticides ? Im reluctant to vape or eat lol
     
  7. howie105

    howie105 Well-Known Member

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    Which one are you concerned about?
     
  8. stinkytofus

    stinkytofus Well-Known Member

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    All of my buds, it came from cali from what my guy told me, quick google search u can find articles on growers using 1.5 lbs of pesticides to 11.5 flowers, the pesticides not approved for use even, i had this thought because ive been consuming cannacoconut oil, by eating it im eating pesticides too
     
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  9. howie105

    howie105 Well-Known Member

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    Simply, different pesticides have different characteristics so there is no one way to deal with them all. Find the actual individual pesticides that you are concerned about and then you can find your options.
     
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  10. Andreaerdna

    Andreaerdna If God is the answer, then the question is wrong

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    That is something I have never thought

    Water wash could solve some of the problem but not all especially if plant is sprayed close to harvest (and insecticide soluble in thc)

    The price to have huge buds with very high content of actives I guess
     
  11. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead trance-form

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    Pesticides are in everything we eat unless you grew it yourself.
     
  12. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    I live in a legal state and I usually buy organic cannabis. Pesticides and heavy metals should be a concern for folks. Hopefully in the future when more states legalize there can be more testing done and more organic cannabis thats available.
     
  13. stinkytofus

    stinkytofus Well-Known Member

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    If u wash with water and salt it will remove most of the pesticides sprayed but not sure if its true
     
  14. Silver420Surfer

    Silver420Surfer Well-Known Member

    THAT WILL NOT...:bang::bang::bang::rant::rant::rant::doh::doh::doh: STOP posting things you know not of please.

    Why reply with pure conjecture? Thats how bad information gets out.
     
  15. stinkytofus

    stinkytofus Well-Known Member

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    Google search, thats why i wasnt 100% sure lol
     
  16. lookhigh

    lookhigh waiting for the click

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    Water cure does remove some pests and pesticides and is very good to remove fertilizer residue.
    Yes fertilizer is bad for you too.
     
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  17. C No Ego

    C No Ego Well-Known Member

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    cartel weed- aka -brick weed... they soaked the stuff in pesticides to make it stronger! = Yuk - Legal Weed FTW

    @stinkytofus Salts are fertilizers. when people flush plants @ close to harvest time those salt ferts get flushed out so the plants' natural aromas are present

    edit - on the crazy side... I've thought that one of the only benefits from smoking "the cannabis" is to kill fertilizer, pesticide remains- like chemotherapy LOL... so smoking = chemotherpay... to hot for delicate living things yet kills off bad stuff too! LOFL
     
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  18. Paka-cholo

    Paka-cholo Flaccid Member

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    I'm very concerned with pesticide in flower. I only buy from 1 grower. I've seen the process from start to finish, and know it's organic. Of course it's very limiting. I only have access to 2-3 strains, but I'd trade that to know the flower is clean. Now my concentrates are another story. I usually stick to flower though.
     
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  19. seaofgreens

    seaofgreens My Mind Is Free

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    Just a couple very popular systemic pesticides/fungicides cannabis growers often use that you should be looking out for on your labels There are many others though:

    Eagle 20 (Myclobutanil)
    Fertilome (Propicanazole) - systemic fungicides with very long half lives

    Avid (abamectin)
    Forbid (spiromesifin)
    Floramite (Bifenazate) - Systemic pesticides with very long half lives.

    Ask your budtender what specifically was used, and become familiar with product names. Look them up and see what risks are associated. Often times these are used for ornamental plants not meant for consumption, so it is important to be aware of what was being used and how long it will remain inside the plant tissue.

    If you have the ability to figure out your own situation,

    Generally, a good strategy is to stick with surfactant pesticides such as neem oil alternating occasionally with spinosad or beneficial mites/ladybugs etc. Bacillus thuringiensis can also be a helpful deterrent if caterpillars are an issue. Then it helps to place some dill nearby as it is known to supposedly attract ladybugs and repel mites. Other good options are nasturtiums, rosemary, lemongrass and peppermint as these are also known to repel bugs. Then stop spraying altogether once flowering starts in earnest, and try to keep air moving around the plants at all times to discourage any mold or mildew development.

    Just some probably useless information. But it's there nonetheless!
     
  20. stinkytofus

    stinkytofus Well-Known Member

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    So there is no method to somewhat wash the pesticides off
     
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  21. steama

    steama Well-Known Member

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    When money is the motive you can count on people doing just about anything and you are a very fortunate person if you 'KNOW' your herb is pesticide free.

    :nod:

    There is NO method to de-chemicalize or remove pesticides from your plant material. :cry:
     
  22. Alexis

    Alexis Open minded philosopher and realist.

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    Maybe bubble hash is the best chance of reducing all contaminants? I dont mean literally ridding "all" contaminants, I just mean for the most all round harm reduction. I believe it is far superior to water curing for cleaning out impurities.
     
  23. snaffle

    snaffle Well-Known Member

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    I've used a 10 day water cure to remove contaminants before. It may not get everything, but anything water-soluble should be removed, which in my case was better than throwing it away.

    Growing your own or buying certified organic cannabis is obviously preferable, but some of us won't be in a position to do either, unfortunately.

    @Alexis, producing a concentrated product may help, but depending on the contaminants I wouldn't be confident that you wouldn't be concentrating that too. The amount of time it would take to go through the likely contaminants and figure out whether they'd be likely to be removed is possibly better spend trying to find a better supply ;) (@Alexis, I saw on another thread you've had an excellent harvest recently, congratulations!)
     
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  24. lookhigh

    lookhigh waiting for the click

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    The problem with pesticide and fungicide that are systemic is that they are absorbed by the plant and therefore protect the plant for a number of weeks depending on which type was used. So the chemicals are even in the buds.
     
  25. Used2use

    Used2use Landrace racer

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    Even in a backyard garden u can't be shure if ur neighbour isn't using just a little roundup to keep his driveway clean...so move out into the wild :D
    Same with fertillizer - good natural soil alone can be to much for some genetics but it will still be called 'organic'
     
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