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Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by pakalolo, Mar 9, 2015.

  1. Mr. Me2

    Mr. Me2 Well-Known Member

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    The thread is quiet, but the pax2 is a solid vape so don't worry! And the company is great too!

    Have fun!!!
     
  2. vapviking

    vapviking Well-Known Member

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    I think pax2 is just a solid, no bs vape. There's not much more to say than has already been said. #3 adds oil capability and slightly better battery life, which don't add up to much more value for me.
     
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  3. aniceto

    aniceto Member

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    thanks you really, it's been really helpful
     
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  4. Justpassedu

    Justpassedu Well-Known Member

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    @Ojan_at_PAX , sorry to call you out but if you can help me out i'd greatly appreciate it , My Pax 2 has been down since before the holidays and the support on the site has been down and not working so i have no way of submitting a request. Sent you a pm - ty
     
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  5. Hoodooguru23

    Hoodooguru23 Member

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    Hey aniceto. My two and a half cents...

    The big advantage of the Pax3 is heat up time with haptic feedback when it's ready. If you're trying to be stealthy it really helps. If it's mainly for home use it won't make that much difference. Either unit here's what I recommend:

    - Delta caps. If you're going to carry your Pax out in the world these are essential. Without them, big smell. With them, no smell. Cheap, easy, right on point.
    - Half Pack cap. This comes with some packages or can be purchased from Pax separately. I like to do a couple hits at a time, not a major session. Putting in half as much and getting 6-8 hits rather than a dozen or more means more of my hits have that beautiful virgin bowl taste (the taste degrades as you get later in the bowl).
    - Pipe cleaners. These also work for me for popping out the screen while I clean the airpath. Iso alcohol, qtips and small paper towel pieces (I cut full sheets into smaller pieces). I also find, due to short fingernails, I need the "multitool" that comes with most Paxes or something else (paperclip) is required to get the flat mouthpiece out to clean.

    I also recommend stirring the goods after every couple of hits. It allows me to keep getting good hits throughout the bowl. I also prefer not to grind my material as finely as others recommend. It makes material less likely to get past the screen and clog up the works and stirring breaks up clumps as you go through the bowl.

    It's not essential but I like the Medtainer combo grinder/stash. It is a more than adequate grinder for my needs and smellproof stash container in one. I pour my ground goods right from the Medtainer into the oven and use my special, always handy packing device - my index finger - to tamp it down slightly.

    I think you'll love your Pax. But expect to have to keep it clean to keep it from restricting airflow. Enjoy!
     
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  6. Masacr

    Masacr New Member

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    Hows it going yall

    I bought a Pax 2 back in June. Thing was great for 5-6 months on the daily. It has great battery life, ease of use, decent enough flavor, and nice vapor production. Overall, I really enjoyed using it. I used the half pack lid too. Two people I know bought one after using mine too lol.

    Anyway, eventually I began to wonder about the safety of the Pax 2 and stopped using it. I have 2 concerns.

    1. The heating chamber and the vapor path are stainless steel. I do not mind this, but both the half pack oven lid and the standard oven lid are not stainless steel and they sit right next to the heating chamber (which gets heated anywhere from 360 to 420 degrees for 5-10 minutes or more). I only used the half pack lid too, which extends down into the heating chamber, whereas the standard lid sits on top of the heating chamber. My concern is that whatever the half pack oven lid is made of is getting heated and possibly releasing toxic/cancerous vapors or something. I don't want to inhale synthetic materials.

    2. My second concern is of similar nature and pertains to the heating element and any other internal parts near the heating element.

    I stopped using the Pax 2 a couple of months ago because of these concerns. I have heard of other people with similar concerns and just wanted to gauge what the FC community thinks about this.

    I would appreciate any input.

    I also have the same concerns with the Mighty. (will post in proper section) Since I stopped using the Pax, I thought I'd buy a better one, but ran into the same concerns.

    Cheers and Thank you
     
  7. Mr. Me2

    Mr. Me2 Well-Known Member

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    Hey @Ojan_at_PAX, can you help and provide @Masacr details to erase his concerns? Thanks!
     
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  8. Ojan_at_PAX

    Ojan_at_PAX Social Media Manager @ PAX Company Rep

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    Absolutely! Thanks for the heads up.

    For PAX 1, 2, and 3, the vapor path and oven are constructed from surgical-grade, stainless steel. They are sealed from the rest of the internal components.

    All plastic materials are made from heat resistant, food-grade materials. They will withstand temperatures hotter than PAX will reach.

    PAX uses a proprietary, non-ceramic tuned, thin film heater bonded to the laser-welded stainless steel oven, separate from the air path.

    And, if you ever consider PAX 3 in the future, the PAX 3 concentrate insert is a precision CNC machined aluminum oven.

    Let me know if you have any other questions :)
     
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  9. Masacr

    Masacr New Member

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    Thank you Mr. Me2!

    @Ojan_at_PAX, Thank you for your reply! I do have a couple of further questions if you have the time. I just hope to further my knowledge of the Pax because I thoroughly enjoyed my Pax 2 during the 5-6 months of use, but I have stopped using it because of my concerns.


    - In regards to the temperature, I read that the food grade plastic material used in the Pax can withstand temperatures of up to about 445 degrees. What is the heating threshold of the food grade plastic?

    - On the half pack oven lid and on the box of the Pax, there was a warning that said, "this product contains chemicals known to the state of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm." What materials/parts used in the Pax 2 contain these chemicals?

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    - I just want to make sure I understand what you wrote here. It is my understanding that the vapor path and the oven/heating chamber are stainless steel, separate from the heating element. Is the heating element separate from the air path? Is the heating element separated and/or protected from other internal parts?

    - What is non-ceramic tuned, thin film? What does that mean? (I apologize I am not well versed in vape terminology.)

    I would appreciate any additional info pertaining to the matter you may find useful. I also really appreciate you taking the time to answer some questions. I haven't used the Pax 2 in a couple of months, but I would really like to erase my concerns. It would be handy to know whether I can get rid of it or keep it for use.

    Thanks again Ojan! I have never had a company rep help address my concerns at any point, for anything. I appreciate it.

    Cheers
     
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  10. Ojan_at_PAX

    Ojan_at_PAX Social Media Manager @ PAX Company Rep

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    Great questions.

    - In regards to the temperature, I read that the food grade plastic material used in the Pax can withstand temperatures of up to about 445 degrees. What is the heating threshold of the food grade plastic?

    I'm asking around and trying to get some details to share!

    - On the half pack oven lid and on the box of the Pax, there was a warning that said, "this product contains chemicals known to the state of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm." What materials/parts used in the Pax 2 contain these chemicals?

    Proposition 65 requires the State of California to publish a list of chemicals known to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. This list, which must be updated once a year, has grown to include approximately 900 chemicals since it was first published and companies are required to note if any of these chemicals are present in the manufacture or use of its products, even if they are at levels lower than known to cause harm. As Pax Labs cannot control what substances consumers use in our devices, and thus do not control what the chemical composition is of those materials, we provide the warning with respect to our products sold in California.

    - I just want to make sure I understand what you wrote here. It is my understanding that the vapor path and the oven/heating chamber are stainless steel, separate from the heating element. Is the heating element separate from the air path? Is the heating element separated and/or protected from other internal parts?

    Yes, the heating element is separate from the vapor path. Also seeing what other details I can learn and share.

    - What is non-ceramic tuned, thin film? What does that mean? (I apologize I am not well versed in vape terminology.)

    This may be proprietary info. Checking on it :)
     
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  11. abjake55

    abjake55 Tech Geek

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    As I am a tech geek, of course the four perfectly good vapes would not be "enough" .(ten step program required?). I had heard about the Argo, so I surfed the Web . In most of the information I checked, the Pax2 /3 ranked very high. (SWIDH). I am happy .with my solo for home use, but planned on something for out and about. I ended up purchasing a Pax2 from Great White North Vape company . As I read through the 124 pages, I also ordered screens, cap ends, WPA, and half lid .now for the constant checking the post ap while I impatiently wait for delivery .

    I am pretty sure I have spent about as much for the 2 plus accessories as I would have for the 3, but I am OK with that . I will report back with my findings.
     
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  12. Vaporcussion

    Vaporcussion Well-Known Member

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    "Old Phart who remembers when Tai Weed was the big deal."

    And joints were $1!
     
  13. hillbill

    hillbill Well-Known Member

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    And Oaxacan Highland was $25 a oz.
     
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  14. Brewervapesalot

    Brewervapesalot Well-Known Member

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    Pax 2 is better. Simplier. Feels nicer, better quality. Way cheaper. Lasts plenty long. Same vapor.

    3d screens make better draw. Make it so you don't have to clean the unit as often. But easy to lose.

    No need for pushers... Fill to whatever level you want. Works great.
     
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  15. Mr. Me2

    Mr. Me2 Well-Known Member

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    I think you'll be happy. It's a great session vape.

    A couple other toys you may want to get; a cake tester (it's a thin metal rod that fits down the air path to help you push out the screen), and a salt spoon to make loading easier.

    Enjoy!
     
  16. Masacr

    Masacr New Member

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    Thanks for the information again. If you are able to provide additional info that would be even more awesome. I just want to be sure I understand your response and try to erase my concerns about the Pax 2.

    Any information on the heating threshold of the food grade plastic would be awesome as well.

    In regards to the heating element, I am just trying to be informed about the products I use and determine whether or not any of "these chemicals" are in certain parts of the Pax 2 I would not want them to be. I do not hope to attain any proprietary info.

    Under Prop 65, you/Pax "are required to note if any of "these" chemicals are present in the manufacture or use of its products, even if they are at levels lower than known to cause harm." So you are stating that this warning is attached to your products solely because of the potential harmful "use of its products" (can't control what consumers put in your product) and not the potential harmful "manufacture of its products." (these chemicals are used in the manufacturing of our product)? Or is the warning attached for both "manufacture and use" in this case?

    Thanks again for the time and consideration,

    Cheers
     
  17. abjake55

    abjake55 Tech Geek

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    One of the packages I am impatiently waiting for is one from Delta 3D studios! I will have the pax2 scoop and tamp tool, funnel, wpa mouthpiece, end caps, and pipe screens. The shipping was just fine, and timely, but one of the "advantages" of living in the great white north!
     
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  18. Masacr

    Masacr New Member

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    @Ojan_at_PAX Still hoping to gather some information on the Pax 2! Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you!
     
  19. abjake55

    abjake55 Tech Geek

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    I have been leaving my Solo and mflb in the drawer, and am exclusively using my pax2 and assorted Vapcàps, depending on my mood. They medicate me efficiently, and are very easy to use, while being elegant and ďiscreet.
     
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  20. PAXr3

    PAXr3 New Member

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    A couple months ago I purchased a PAX2 from the local shop. I loved it for a while, but it seems like it only ever puts off smoke now. I replaced it with a PAX3 and now I'm having the same issue. Dry-herb only at 380F.

    First pull is usually vapor only, second is usually a mix of vapor and smoke, third and thereafter is always smoke? Pack is a fine grind, tightly packed material (won't fall out if you flip it) -- Yesterday, first time using PAX3, the whole time it was smoke (including first pull) Smoke even comes out of the bowl.

    Am I doing something wrong? It spends the bowl so fast. I clean it every week, 2-3 uses per week with manufacturer provided materials only.
     
  21. mccringleberry

    mccringleberry Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like a warranty claim. And hopefully you didn't unknowingly purchase the fake Chinese knockoff Pax. I would post this in the Pax thread to get more valuable input.
     
  22. Mr. Me2

    Mr. Me2 Well-Known Member

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    Is your abv charred and obviously burnt? Do you know what temp setting you are using?

    I agree it sounds like you have the rare defect, but for 2 vapes? You may want to also try sending a pm to @Ojan_at_PAX. I haven’t seen him here in a while but he has always been very helpful.
     
  23. PAXr3

    PAXr3 New Member

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    So the new PAX seems to be working fine. I checked the oven after a session of 4 pulls and it was like-new. Much less harsh than the 2 with way better effect. The 2, after just 2 pulls, would actually burn the herb (brown and black) regardless of the setting. I think I'm going to contact PAX and ask them to replace the old unit.
     

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