1. What does SSTB mean? See our glossary of acronyms.

Oregon votes in November on legalizing it!

Discussion in 'Cannabis News and Activism' started by gangababa, Jul 22, 2014.

  1. gangababa

    gangababa Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    93
    Location:
    center of the jagat
    "The New Approach Oregon marijuana legalization initiative has qualified for the November ballot, the secretary of state's office reported today."(link)...
    "That means Oregon will join Alaska in voting on marijuana legalization this year. The District of Columbia is also likely to join that list; the cultivation and possession legalization initiative there is awaiting certification after handing in more than twice the number of signatures required to make the ballot."

    http://newapproachoregon.com/the-initiative/
     
  2. Crohnie

    Crohnie Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    893
    Location:
    Chicago
    A recent poll shows 57% approval. :nod:
     
    t-dub and CarolKing like this.
  3. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    Messages:
    2,310
    Location:
    left coast
    Oregon marijuana legalization activists have paid close attention to Washington's experiment with legal pot and have said they're determined to do things differently. Home marijuana cultivation would be allowed in Oregon, for instance. And drivers in Oregon won't face the driver impairment standards for THC imposed under Washington's recreational pot law.

    The Seattle Times' Hal Bernton dissects the different approaches in a piece published Sunday.
     
  4. Vicki

    Vicki The Bionic Woman

    Messages:
    5,800
    Good luck guys!
     
  5. Crohnie

    Crohnie Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    893
    Location:
    Chicago
    The latest polls in Oregon:

    52% YES
    41% NO
    7% UNSURE
     
    grokit and RUDE BOY like this.
  6. macbill

    macbill WA-WAHHH. WA, Oh WA-To-See

    Vicki, t-dub and grokit like this.
  7. t-dub

    t-dub Vapor Sloth

    Messages:
    4,887
    Location:
    Oregon
    I've already filled out my ballot . . . :tup::leaf::peace:

    [​IMG]
     
    Puffers, macbill, grokit and 3 others like this.
  8. grokit

    grokit power cosmic

    Messages:
    5,514
    Location:
    the north
    Me
    2!
    :rockon:
     
    macbill and t-dub like this.
  9. Silver420Surfer

    Silver420Surfer Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,346
    Location:
    FL
    You can do it, Oregon!!!!
     
  10. Egzoset

    Egzoset 1SipAToke/Blender Vaporist (v3.1)

    Messages:
    2,909
    Location:
    Shawinigan/Qc, Canada
    Salutations Silver420Surfer,

    Lets have some pulse:

    Oregon Live: Marijuana is not comparable to alcohol: Letters to the Editor (2014-Oct-29)

    « ...law enforcement can't reliably prove which collisions are caused by pot. ... Measure 91 has no THC-potency testing requirements on marijuana or edibles. ... ...there is no plan for treating the resultant "smaller gray matter volume" which affects pot-using adults up through age 25. 100 percent of pot taxes should go to: an information blitz about pot and brain damage... »


    KPTV: Breaking down Measure 91 and the legalization of marijuana (2014-Oct-30)

    « If you increase the supply and lower the price dramatically, you're going to have a lot more use and unfortunately, you're going to have a segment of that population that abuses it... »

    Sounds familiar? Not much need to comment further i guess. Except some anti-cannabic prohibitionists are trying to set the stage, again, while they may have forgot to read the statistics (e.g. SAMHSA, NSDUH, YRBS, MTF) - and definitions too...

    :peace:
     
    grokit and Vicki like this.
  11. Gunky

    Gunky Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    498
    Location:
    Northern California
    You know what? Up to 4 plants isn't very well thought out. Typically when you grow from seed only half are female. So you need twice as many as will make it to harvest. Possibly they have some accommodation and allow 8 immature and 4 mature... 10 or 12 are much better baseline numbers if you must have a plant limit.

    There are nice grow techniques that employ lots of really small plants forced to flower by giving them 12 hours light and 12 dark. The end result may be about the same as growing a couple humongous plants but for some reason the one is prohibited... bah humbug. I guess 4 is better than none. Plant limits are unscientific because one plant can be allowed to veg for months in a huge tub and fill up a room - or a single plant might only be a few grams.
     
    grokit likes this.
  12. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    Messages:
    2,310
    Location:
    left coast
    Treating marijuana as a crime has failed. Arresting and citing thousands of people in Oregon and elsewhere for marijuana-related crimes is a distraction to law enforcement and a misuse of taxpayer resources. The time and money spent should go to make our communities safer. Police resources should be focused on violent criminals, thieves and criminal cartels.
    A regulated, legal and taxed system for marijuana has already been shown to work better in Colorado and Washington. Colorado, the first state to implement regulated sales, has seen a reduction in teen use, a drop in traffic fatalities, and a falling violent crime rate in Denver, where most dispensaries are located. Revenue is going to fund public services rather than into the pockets of criminals and we expect the same in Washington when data starts to come in from that state. The sky has not fallen and law enforcement officers are now directing their time toward serious crimes, in accordance with their communities' wishes.

    Measure 91 is built on the foundation provided by these states and tailored to Oregon. It will ensure 35% of tax revenue raised goes to law enforcement, including 10% each to cities and counties and 15% for state police. It is a better approach.

    Supported by the following 30 law enforcement officials:

    Seattle Police Chief Norm Stamper (Ret.) (Orcas Island, WA) 34 years
    Multnomah County Sheriff Don Clark (Ret.) (Multnomah County, OR) Over 10 years law enforcement experience and a career of public service in Oregon
    Los Angeles Police Department Deputy Chief Stephen Downing (Ret.) (Long Beach, CA) 20 years
    US Attorney for the District of Oregon Kris Olson (Ret.) (Oregon) 17 years of experience as a prosecutor
    Oregon Supreme Court Justice, Court of Appeals Judge and Circuit Court trial Judge, Bill Riggs (Ret.) (Willsonville. OR) 35 years of judge experience
    Assistant State's Attorney Inge Fryklund (Ret.) (Bend, OR) 30 years law enforcement experience
    Lieutenant Sheriff Paul Stiegleder (Ret.) (Portland, OR) 30 years
    Former Drug Unit Prosecutor Darian Stanford (Portland, OR) 5 years
    Former County Deputy Sheriff Pete Tutmark (Clackamas, Oregon) 30 years
    Prosecutor Jay Fisher (Denver, CO) 12 years
    Denver Police Department Lieutenant Tony Ryan (Ret.) (Sahuarita, AZ) 36 years
    Special Agent Finn Selander (Ret.) (Albuquerque, NM) 20 years
    Former Detention Officer and Sheriff's Deputy Jason Thomas (Denver, CO) 2 years
    Sergeant John Baker (Ret.) (Parker, CO) 24 years
    Former Undercover Narcotics Officer Jay Fleming (Mohave Valley, AZ) 15 years
    Federal Probation Officer LeRoy Washington (Ret.) (Kamuela, HI) 34 years
    Former Deputy Sheriff Nicholas Dial (Mesa, AZ) 2 years
    US Customs Inspector Arnold Byron (Ret.) (Burlington, WA) 21 years
    Former Corrections Official Matt McCally (Renton, WA) 7 years
    Deputy Sheriff MacKenzie Allen (Ret.) (Santa Fe, NM) 15 years
    Former Judge Leonard Frieling (Lafayette, CO) 8 years
    Former Prosecutor and Corrections Officer Jim Doherty (Seattle, WA) 6 years
    Parole and Probation Officer Shelley Fox-Loken (Ret.) (Portland, OR) 21 years
    Former Police Officer James Peet (Sumner, WA) 3 years
    Superior Court Judge David A Nichols (Ret.) (Bellingham, WA) 20 years
    Narcotics Officer and Military Police Officer David Doddridge (Ret.) (St. George, UT) 21 years
    Lieutenant Commander Diane Goldstein (Ret.) (Santa Ana, CA) 21 years
    Former Police Officer Kyle Kazan (Long Beach, CA) 5 years
    Former Deputy Sheriff Nate Bradley (Sheridan, CA) 7 years
    Former Deputy Sheriff Leo Laurence (San Diego, CA) 16 years

    Sorry it's so long. I couldn't find a link. Found this in Toke of the Town.
     
    macbill, Egzoset, t-dub and 4 others like this.
  13. His_Highness

    His_Highness In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

    Messages:
    70
    Fingers Crossed!!! Lead the way for Florida!
     
    macbill and Crohnie like this.
  14. Crohnie

    Crohnie Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    893
    Location:
    Chicago
    Latest poll shows 52% in favor, 41% against. :D
     
  15. Crohnie

    Crohnie Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    893
    Location:
    Chicago
    Congratulations, Oregon!:lol:
     
  16. t-dub

    t-dub Vapor Sloth

    Messages:
    4,887
    Location:
    Oregon
    :)

    [​IMG]
     
  17. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    Messages:
    2,310
    Location:
    left coast
    Awesome news! :leaf::leaf::leaf:
     
    Vicki and t-dub like this.
  18. Vicki

    Vicki The Bionic Woman

    Messages:
    5,800
    Good for you Oregon! :)
     
  19. macbill

    macbill WA-WAHHH. WA, Oh WA-To-See

    1/2 pound plus 4 plants! Sounds like my kinda place! I don't know why that seems incredulous, it's a plant, after all. Finally, a State treating marijuana more like liquor (although you can have a stash of booze as big as the sky. Then again, you can't grow bourbon).
     
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2014
    grokit and Ratchett like this.
  20. nihil

    nihil Member, Known Well

    Messages:
    151
    I knew I'd live to see it, just not this soon. Wow, I am fucking excited waking up to this. Just got back from a week in Arizona, and am so glad I live in Oregon when comparing their tolerance to the plant.

    And @macbill, I believe you're Vancouver. Come July, you'll need to move across the river. Washington is extremely expensive per gram if you go the legal route.
     
    macbill and Ratchett like this.
  21. Silver420Surfer

    Silver420Surfer Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,346
    Location:
    FL
    Congratulations to all those who worked hard to get this passed in Oregon, and all those who went out and voted!!
     
    chimpybits and t-dub like this.
  22. Papa Woody

    Papa Woody "The vapor is strong with this one"-Obi Onda Woody

    Messages:
    176

    Oregon pot availability still many months away


    Oregon voters approved the recreational use of marijuana Tuesday, but it may be wise for residents to wait before taking a celebratory toke.

    Adults ages 21 and older will not be able to legally possess or grow marijuana until July 1, under the measure.


    While the measure technically will take effect next month, the sections allowing legal pot possession do not take effect until next summer.

    And residents won’t be able to buy marijuana from a state-licensed retailer until sometime in 2016 after the Oregon Liquor Control Commission has adopted rules to regulate the new marketplace and granted growers, wholesalers and retailers licenses.

    After Tuesday’s vote, “the only thing that is going to change is that the OLCC is going to start the (rule-making) process,” said Dave Kopilak, a Portland attorney and primary drafter of Measure 91. “Outside of that agency, none of the laws for us normal citizens are going to change for the next seven months or so.”

    There are more immediate ramifications after Oregon became the third state in the nation to legalize the recreational use of marijuana after Washington and Colorado. Alaska and Washington, D.C., also legalized recreational marijuana Tuesday.

    Lane County-area police and court officials say they will discuss how to enforce and prosecute existing marijuana laws in the interim, between the measure’s approval and July 1.

    And the chairman of the Oregon Senate Judiciary Committee said he expects lawmakers will tweak the measure when the legislative session starts in February.

    Measure 91 lets adults possess up to eight ounces of marijuana and grow up to four marijuana plants at home, with additional allowances for pot in solid and liquid form. They can possess and give up to one ounce of marijuana away from home, but are barred from using the drug in public.

    The measure also establishes a legal marketplace where license holders can grow, process and sell recreational marijuana.

    Although the measure takes effect next month, it doesn’t amend the state’s criminal marijuana laws until July 1.


    “We wanted everyone to maybe take a breather and see what had to be done,” Kopilak explained.

    OLCC Chairman Rob Partridge said the agency’s first order of business will be to go before the Legislative Emergency Board in December to secure funding to ramp up the new regulatory program.

    Then, he said, agency officials plan to hit to road to get input ahead of drafting the new rules, including from public safety and school officials and medical marijuana representatives.

    “It’s critical that we get into the local communities and listen because that’s where the rubber meets the road,” said Partridge, Klamath County’s district attorney and a former state lawmaker.

    The measure requires the OLCC to adopt these rules by Jan. 1, 2016. No later than Jan. 4, 2016, the agency must begin accepting license applications for growers, processors and retailers and, according to the measure, can’t “unreasonably delay” the processing and decision on an application.

    Partridge said the agency would strive to meet those deadlines but “a lot of intervening factors,” including legislative changes and any court challenges, could alter the timeline.

    State Sen. Floyd Prozanski, D-Eugene, said he expects state lawmakers will tweak the measure.

    “We’ll probably be fine-tuning the measure to ensure that it provides what Oregonians expect in a regulated industry,” said Prozanski, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    He declined to provide many details, but he did say two areas that lawmakers would take a look at are edible marijana products and items that could be attractive to children, such as lollipops and gummy bears.

    Prozanski characterized as a “non-starter” any thoughts of allowing a city or county to impose a local marijuana tax.

    Measure 91 imposes a state tax on marijuana, and it bars local taxes. Numerous local governments, including Springfield and Lane County, already have adopted local taxes in the hope of getting in ahead of when the measure takes effect.

    Prozanski said the measure specifically preempts local taxes. Allowing them, he said, raises the price of marijuana and defeats the measure’s purpose of getting customers to buy from a regulated marketplace rather than drug dealers.

    Kopilak said he’s open to legislative changes “that are consistent with the themes of the (measure) and not, ‘We think it’s better this way.’”

    Locally, courts and law enforcement are grappling with how to enforce existing marijuana laws with legalization on the horizon.

    Oregon voters decriminalized possession of less than an ounce of marijuana more than four decades ago, making it an offense akin to speeding. Possession of between one and four ounces is a misdemeanor, while possession of more than four ounces is a felony.

    Springfield Police Chief Tim Doney said he planned to meet with the officials from the municipal court and city prosecutor’s office in the next week or two to discuss the way forward.

    Eugene city prosecutor Susan Triem said she’ll have the same conversation with her colleagues.

    “We are still working on that,” she said.

    Melinda McLaughlin, spokeswoman for the Eugene Police Department, said the agency’s stance would remain unchanged for the time being.

    “The law is still on the books and, as usual, officers will be using their discretion,” she said. “We and other police agrencies in Oregon will be learning more about what the new law means.”

    http://registerguard.com/rg/news/lo...-availability-still-many-months-away.html.csp

    Thank you Oregon!!!
    I can't wait to visit my friends that live in Eugene...
     
    grokit, His_Highness and t-dub like this.

Support FC, visit our trusted friends and sponsors