Omicron Vaporizer for oils

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by THC SCIENTIFIC, Sep 16, 2011.

  1. Vitolo Vaporist

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    Ophos be us.
    I mean... we be here...
    I mean,, yes, we talk O-Phos here.
    O-Phos, is sort of like an Original Omocron, but can be used while charging... nice feature, and a great vape!
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  2. StickyShisha Well-Known Member

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    i love my Ophos and have used it hard for i guess about a year. i did the upgrade special deal from v1 after breaking a few chargers.
    you will need to press the button 5 times fast to unlock it. i think that took me an hour to figure out.
  3. THC SCIENTIFIC The Guy Who Created It All.

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    Vito can you tell me how much herb you vape on a fully charged battery before a recharge is needed?
  4. Vitolo Vaporist

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    The battery life is good.
    1st time I did it I did one entire session, and was afraid to go without a recharge for number two.
    Since then, because I have a spare battery... I have pushed the limits.
    1-I have vaped oil with a 2.4 for half a day, done a full Herc 3.7V session, and a few more oil hits.
    2-I did 3 Herc 3.7V sessions, and did a few oil hits, that still worked fine with a 2.4
    3-I vaped 3 full sessions... of just herb. (and a few hits into a 4th
    You asked how much herb.....
    In quantity-----> I vaped a bit over half gram of meds before changing the battery
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  5. THC SCIENTIFIC The Guy Who Created It All.

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    Vito im talking about the Hercules 3.7v
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  6. Vitolo Vaporist

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    I am also, G... bender was a typo.. look back I fixed it.
    Apologies to all....
    Testing and typing in the same hour.... fun!
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  7. THC SCIENTIFIC The Guy Who Created It All.

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    So you would say about .6 of herbs vaped while also using the a cartridge for oils on the same device.

    Can you do me a favor, charge one battery and use it only for herucles duty. See how much is vaped and if you have a multimeter do voltage checks in between sessions if possible.

    I want to get some real live world numbers.
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  8. Vitolo Vaporist

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    Clarification, sorry for my lack of clarity.
    The third thing I wrote was just herb duty, and so was the amount
    It was not .6 while using device for oil.
    It was using the device only for herb
    3-I vaped 3 full sessions... of just herb. (and a few hits into a 4th
    You asked how much herb.....
    In quantity-----> I vaped a bit over half gram of meds before changing the battery
    And the battery was not dead into the 4th session, just "time to charge".

    Next part is where I let you down...
    Yes I bought a multi meter.
    I bought it when you and I began talking volts.
    I do have a feel for ohm/volt balance on my Persei
    but I never successfully used the multimeter
    a half dozen friends have attempted to explain what to do.
    Over the phone they "walk me through it".
    I am afraid I can not get that information to you.
    I have yet to get any information from my multi meter... and I admit it..
    so... you tech guys... don't roll your eyes at me.

    Multi Meter mental block.
    Multi Meter dont function here.

    Real world numbers.
    3 and a half sessions
    over .6 of a gram were consumed
    almost 3 hours were covered
    One patient was medicated
    There was still charge left, it appeared.
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  9. tharealmclovin Well-Known Member

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    I have not tried on my Omicron yet. I will charge up the battery on that now. With my Persei, I got through 4 loads and still didnt need a charge
  10. Oski2012 Member

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    Hey guys,

    Loaded .5 of pure gold into a new 2.4 cart and found the cart to be clogged upon vaping. Took cart off and it was leaking clear fluid. Was careful to follow all the proper techniques when filling and I'm certain I didn't bust the seals (was holding lower third during fill and it never got warm during heating except for when the oil dropped). Was curious about a couple things:

    1. I'd read others say the clear stuff is saliva, I really didn't notice myself drooling on inhale but would love reassurance that no other reports of mystery non saliva liquids leaking from carts have surfaced.

    2. Vaporpedia says don't use white mp for pure gold. Is the metal mp better, or just none at all?

    Appreciate any insight, and I really appreciate the knowledge bank that is FC.
  11. sagery New Member

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    It took me a few weeks to finally get everything sorted out, and D9V was always helpful, but now I totally get the Omicron. It's awesome. I have the HVD kid with extra batteries so that allows me to run with 2 separate vape pens. and filling these carts was really quite easy once i got the hang of it. 1.5ohm cart on the small tube works great.

    looking forward to a persei purchase in the future and hoping the Omi will last
    --
    One things im not so sure about is the battery charger, has anyone had better luck with a different charger? mine seems a bit sporadic
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  12. sagery New Member

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    i have a feeling puregold might be too thin, but others would know better than me.

    i found that heating the product at the right temperature and in a sort of downward spiral motion, to make sure that the oil stayed hot throughout the "sliding into the cart" part. if it hits cool it will stop and clog, took a few tries but you'll get it
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  13. tharealmclovin Well-Known Member

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    Loaded up my Omicron with a fresh 14500 and the 3.7 herc. Fired it up and within 20 seconds i am getting tasty vapor. I continue to hold the button down after my first hit and go in for a second. This time i got a really nice hit. I then feathered on and off to keep the herc hot, but not too hot. I got through 2 full loads with 1 battery no problem. I could most likely do more if needed.
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  14. THC SCIENTIFIC The Guy Who Created It All.

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    How does the ABV look?
  15. sagery New Member

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    Well i guess i spoke too soon.
    Been using my new omi with chrome ring top and HVD454 unit on/off all day. It had been working great. Then, it just stopped working. Upon further investigation it seems that the HVD unit (possibly holding the button too long) blew out 4 of my carts. I have 1 empty cart left that seems to give the orange glow on 3.4v

    The other carts are possibly clogged/not properly filled, this was my first time really filling my own carts, but its concerning that they dont seem to run at 7.4v . I was using 2.4 and 1.5 ohm carts and filled 2g wax over 3 carts

    any ideas?

    would love to be hitting the omi now but I'm stuck again

    (and I know I can submit a ticket , I am just curious if any other users have had this problem. Would I have the same problem with the persei, or am I just too amateur?) , feel free to be honest and tell me to go buy a gpen if thats what id be better off with
  16. OF Well-Known Member

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    Hey, keep that talk quiet! You want these young punks finding that out and trying to steal our jobs?

    I think Sagery has it right, I found careful cool downs control the clogs, but it eventually seems to leak no matter how careful I am. I finally gave up after putting $40 into a $10 cart and only enjoying a fraction of it. Too bad, it's lovely. I just don't think the standard Omicron carts and PG fit well together. The long awaited 'leakproof' cart (1701) may well fix this but for now I'm using Revolution/DART for this (and looking forward to trying PG in the Cera).


    Cool. I assume this is the AW IMR 14500? Pretty amazing little battery.....

    OF
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  17. lockie Member

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    Which charger from lighthound is the best for the AW IMR 14500 batteries?
  18. OF Well-Known Member

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  19. havealight101 Norski

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    Hey bud, unfortunately 1.5 and 2.4 carts are strictly for the 3.7 volt configuration. 7.4 v is way two much for them, and will most definitely fry the carts if the button is pressed for more than a second or two. Keep your last cart on 3.7v only, and don't dry fire it any more(looking for orange glow). You can order 4/5ohm carts to run at 7.4 if you please, but they are much more finicky than the low voltage ones. Best of luck.
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  20. sagery New Member

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    thanks for the insight dude, I guess I missed that part. It can take me a while to truly get something but I'm spent enough damn time with this thing I want to see it working. So if I'm looking for clouds , reliability, and portability, I see it a few options. FYI I've been using a Volcano for years and it has never let me down so that's my Apple to D9Vs Orange.

    So my options are basically run 1.5ohm using the DMR14250 battery, or the 14650 battery? 2.4ohm cart would produce less vapor, but could work, yes?

    If I want to run the HVD unit, I must use 3/4/5 ohm carts, with 5ohm cart the least vapor and least chance of blowing out? 3ohm would have most vapor but I should be careful running 7.4v?

    I think I have to be much more careful with this product, and probably not let others use this product unless they are fully warned. The last person to use it was my friend and I bet he held the button too long. to lose 4 carts in a night sucks though

    Would I have the same issues with the Persei? Probably worse? I'm assuming so. Just need to figure this all out.
    The 2.4ohm cart at 3.7v was not producing the clouds I was looking for.

    thanks for any advice.

    Also, I can use my own imagination, but if anyone has any advice for emptying a full dead cart into a fresh new one thatd be great , thanks

    PS as a more idiot proof pen I might pickup the gpen micro or the e-skillet, and save the Omi for special private times. Any thoughts here? I'd be intersted in an O-Phos if it produced good clouds and has idiot-proof factor

    -sagery

    EDIT: I see here- http://www.delta9vapes.com/categories.php?category=Extract-Cartridges-
    it tells you which carts for which voltages. It kinda sucks that I bought through PV, full knowing of being a newb and that I would be using the HVD. they sold me 2.4 carts. D9V also gave me 1.5 carts because I was told it would produce more vapor. All signs point to Persei :)

    EDIT2: and of course now I see cartridge/voltage graph. Should have done my homework more
  21. GR Well-Known Member

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    Yes, yes, yes.

    I pretty much run at 7.4v now a days, I have on multiple occasions grabbed one of the dozen carts that are filled but my eyes are not what they used to be, 1-4 hits later at 7.4v with a 2.7 or 1.5 cart and they are fried. I melt the oil out of dead carts and use it for edibles.

    I agree that dry firing can cause more problems then solve, out of 60 or more carts I have only had 4 dudes, 3 of which where from early 2012. Now for something a little different, I ordered my last 10 carts from PV, 7 5ohm and 3 4ohm, I did dry fire the 2 5ohm I was filling immidiately and they both produced vapor for 5 dry puffs, this is something that has not happened in 6 months with any ohm cart I have received from D9. I have 8 more carts from PV to check if they are all this way. While I will not recommend dry firing I know from the past that if I load into a cart like this that still has ? In it I will toss the cart and oil, I'd rather toss a $10 cart then a $10 cart plus 1/2g of oil.


    Edit: I have not tried the 4ohm cart at 7.4v, might be filling it after typing this since my son has been playing his drums for the last two hours, 3ohm is probably not going to handle 7.4v to well, it is advised that is a 6v cart (so is the 4ohm). At 3.7v
    2.7 is good for friends and new users, 1.5 will rip but there is learning curve, 7.4v and 5ohm is a beast giving around .01g per big hit and is easy to screw up if you don't know what you are doing.

    Edit 2: since you have the HVD kit you can get the AW IMR 14500 battery which is the best performer at 3.7v IMO.
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  22. havealight101 Norski

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    I think you have the just of it, but 3/4 ohm carts are really best at 6v. If you want to play with 7:4v, try and pick up a single 5 ohm.
    They put out plenty of vapor, but again, can be harder to control than low voltage set ups.
    About other cart, I can't recommend any g-pens/trippy stud/groovy fingers. While they may have better products than a year ago(back when I followed pen vapes), but I believe they are still rebranded ecig tech. The only other oil carts I can recommend is the Thermo-Vape Dart/Rev, but they are no longer in production, unfortunately, but can be found.
    Also, good technique can yield decent vapor out of a 2.4 cart. It's somewhat like the MFLB micro hit technique, but still will not rival a fog machine.
    Once again, best of luck.
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  23. tharealmclovin Well-Known Member

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    The first time I emptied after a few hits and it was half golden/half green. The second one I went longer and came out with some dark brown, but not blackened. Then just for fun used the iris @4.5v and combusted slightly. Still tasted ok, justvkind of hot.

    My ABV is lighter than my Solo on 5 ABV, until the combustion point.
  24. StickyShisha Well-Known Member

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    today, my Ophos has decided that it doesn't want to work. it has been my "gram a week driver" for about a year ($25 upgrade from v1 special) running 1.5ohm carts and lately a TV Dart.

    the other day i thought it was weird that i need to 5 click unlock it, when i hadn't locked it. now today, the button won't light up at all.

    i really love the small size and feel of my black Ophos, more than any other model of "pen vape" that that i have held. i'll most likely get another one before something happens to my rarely used silver one.
  25. sagery New Member

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    well, I salvaged my last 2.4(?unlabeled) cart and ran it at 3.7v . didnt get much cloud, ran it 1-2 sec at 7.4 and got some clouds. letting it sit upright. plan to run the small tube with 14250 battery tonight

    will invest in more carts direct from d9v,
    and thanks to all for the lessons and tips on batteries, i thought i got it but now i hope i got it. lol
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