Omicron Vaporizer for oils

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by THC SCIENTIFIC, Sep 16, 2011.

  1. Kevdog420 OMMP Patient

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    I wasn't aware this could be done without damaging the cart?

    Could you explain how to do this or link me a thread explaining it?

    Thanks!
  2. whyblameus Member

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    Get a small cup and put enough alcohol to submerge your cart and let it soak in it stirring/agitating frequently. Maybe 20 minutes in the alcohol and shake out the alcohol after. Then then them dry for a few hours at least.


    Do people not boil and alcohol soak there carts to clean them anymore?

    The real taste problem with new carts imho isnt the heating wires needing oxodized its that the wicks are preprimed like some ecig carts.
    Cause I get no flavor difference in a new ecig cart thats isnt preprimed from the factory.
  3. OF Well-Known Member

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    Boiling them is not an Omicron feature, folks have wrecked carts this way......any place you can point to saying this is OK? Or for that matter, while some folks have reported using ISO on them, does anyone know of this being authorized?

    Those are recommended techniques for TV products, not D9.

    However, before 'the great four Ohm cart taste test' (of which I still have one I think), it was confirmed that not only wasn't there any 'priming' (typically PG I understand?) involved in Omicron carts but G also said he rewrote the specs to include an additional washing step at assembly. There should be nothing there to wash out as I understand.

    G said he'll be back on line soon, perhaps he can shed some light here? For now I'll just say I seriously doubt boiling is allowed......it's a feature of the Hercules cart.....a big improvement, right?

    OF
  4. Krazzykid Active Member

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    As far as I have known this has never been advised, boiling especially.

    The alcohol soak technically could work, as long as you make sure to give more than enough time for all the alcohol to evaporate.
    I do know people have done alcohol soaks to recover oil from burned out carts, but this is the first I am hearing of anyone doing a soak and boil before using the cart.

    I am not saying it can't work, but I am not advising anyone to do this. Try at your own risk.
  5. OF Well-Known Member

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    I'm not too sure ISO is a good idea if you intend to use the cart afterwards. Some seals degrade quickly in ISO and I'm not sure what exactly is used.

    It's not the first I've heard of boiling them, not too long back some fellow was saying he'd trashed a couple that way (leakers?) but I don't recall if it was in a PM or open forum. Whichever, it didn't work out well.

    I also still firmly believe guys should stick with 2.4 Ohm carts until they have them fully sorted out. I understand that's not a popular concept but over and over new guys have taken that suggestion to heart and reported back on what a good idea it was. Guys who want to go for instant gratification over learning the skills needed report a string of taste and leak issues. Go figure.

    I agree this advice should probably wait on an official word from G.

    OF
  6. Krazzykid Active Member

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    I completely agree with you there OF. I have no idea what specific rubber is used for the seals, and like you said it may not be strong enough for the properties if ISO. I do know a lot of people have recovered oil from bad carts with ISO though and I don't recall any of them saying the oil tasting like rubber or plastic.

    Still, without G coming on here and saying they are up to the task, I don't in any way recommend doing either the ISO soak or the boil.
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  7. whyblameus Member

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    I swore it was normal lol

    I can personally say alcohol didnt hurt my omicron cart. Cleaned it 4 or more times.the seals never leaked. Only the normal leaking down the airpath.
    Never boiled it though.
    It made the flavor better when I would refill it.


    Maybe I got mine before they started cleaning them. cause mine tasted metallly/chemically for about the first gram.
    I wished I had cleaned it with alcohol first.
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  8. YeeeBuddy Well-Known Member

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    Hey everyone this is my first post, hopefully not my last. Ive been lurking around the forum for a couple days and am looking into getting a vape pen of some sort so thought I better join in. After reading alot of this thread i think I'm gonna go with the 0-phos for my beginner vape, sounds like its a pretty heavy hitter at a decent price.

    I have also been very impressed with the customer service from the Omicron guys, you can tell they really care about keeping their customers happy. Having reliable customer service and a place to troubleshoot with this forum made my decision alot easier. I am curious I would like to buy directly from you guys but i live in socal and a couple dispensaries within 5 miles carry them, if i buy from them do i still get the same warranty?

    I am a med patient and normally burn flowers but would like something more discreet that i can take on the go and not have to fill all the time. From what ive read the o-phos is very similar to the omicron v1 which got great reviews so I am hopefull.


    -vape noob
  9. OF Well-Known Member

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    First off, howdy and welcome to the fun. I too hope you'll be joining in more in the future.

    I think you're definitely 'on the right track' here. O-phos and 2.4 Ohm carts is a great combination. Look for good concentrate ('super melt or better', avoid 'full melts'), you want light color and harder nature at room temperature as rough guidelines. Load half a gram at first, and add half a gram more when it slows down (with about .2 left typically). Loading more seems to invite leaks.

    Also pay careful attention to heat in loading, lots of new owners seem to get hung up here. The key is to keep the bottom (where the seals are) cool enough to hold comfortably while you preheat the center part well before moving up to the load in the funnel. Most guys get into trouble when the just barely melted goods start to slide down the tube and hit cold metal. The first bit sticks to the wall part way down and the rest sticks above it leaving an air bubble trapped under it. No (or erratic) feeding happens. Done right you'll feel the hot load drop down through your fingers at the bottom.

    Remember to hit is slow, you can't get get the vapor before it's made and pulling lots of cold air through trying will only make it slower still.

    Good luck getting it sorted out, it's a good tool for sure.

    OF
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  10. YeeeBuddy Well-Known Member

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    Theirs a michaels right down the street I think im going to invest in one of those cake decorater tip things.
  11. OF Well-Known Member

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    Cool. Number 10 is the one I use. I flared the bottom of mine out a bit (rolled it around a round screwdriver blade) to put a very short 'stem' on the bottom of the funnel (parallel sides) that just fits inside the top of the cart. Being as thin as it it, it's very easy to control the heat (and it's fast).

    They're under a buck, if you plan of trying to modify one you might get a spare just in case? Don't forget to grab a few round toothpicks somewhere to plug up the tube.....

    OF
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  12. YeeeBuddy Well-Known Member

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    Anyone have the link to the video of the guy who invented the cake decorater method.

    Edit: Nevermind I found his instructions with pictures on page 4.
  13. CentiZen Fully Certified Evil Genius

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    If I were to try using budder in the omicron, would that clog it up? Or does it have to be a pure oil in the cartridges?
  14. OF Well-Known Member

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    Good question, in my experience some are fine as they just have a lot of air whipped into them as part of the purging I'm told, never done it or seen it done. Other grams I've tried, looking about the same, failed because there was something else (apparently thicker) mixed in with the THC I wanted.

    The only sure test I know is 'the foil test'.

    Good luck.

    OF
  15. Mez New Member

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    Got a question for the trouble shooters here, (sorry this is my first post on this forum),
    My issue: Omicon V2

    Light blinks after 1-2 seconds of holding button - I have recharged all the batteries, I have purchased new batteries ( 2 of them) but it still does this. It does this with 1.5 Carts and 2.4 carts, but if I put a 5 Ohm cart it does not do this. The light stays on and I can feel the heat slowly build up in the cart, but a 5 Ohm cartridge wont be powered by the omicron v2 but it is kinda wierd the light blinking issues does not happen while this cart is on. I have also tried a new 1.5 and still get blinking lights.

    I have since bought a Persei and am having no issues, but I would like to see if I can fix my Omicron as well. Thanks for any assistance, I have bought this from a third party site so, let me know if buying the warrenty is the only way I can fix this issue.
  16. OF Well-Known Member

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    First off, howdy, welcome to the fun. Sorry to meet you under dark skies but that happens a lot......

    Sounds to me like one of two faults is going on. Either heat is building up in the electronics and shutting them down (should see a difference in time between 1.5 and 2.4 Ohms in that case) or more likely the overcurrent circuit is being tripped because it's misreading the current. Either is fatal, and both have the same unfortunate solution.....replacement. Nothing you can do from the outside to help, time to 'open a ticket' with D9.

    I hope it gets sorted out quickly. Such problems are not uncommon, many of us have replacement D9 heads. Fortunately their Customer Support is aces. Too bad about the holiday, but they may be manning the shop today, I'd open the ticket right away.

    Good luck.

    OF
  17. Mez New Member

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    OF,

    Thank you for your prompt response, Much appreciated I will do thank you!
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  18. OF Well-Known Member

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    You're welcome. I hope we'll be hearing more from you?

    OF
  19. Nosferatu Well-Known Member

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    Question about getting the hammer attachment:

    So I have the Omicron V. 2 Matte Black and I want to get the hammer attachment(its a ceramic heating rod). The description says I need new batteries and a new top for this thing to work, but I don't see these products on the website? It looks like just buying the hammer itself and screwing it in it would work as long as I get the right batteries, or do I need something else?
  20. lockie Member

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    I was wondering what would be the best setup for the 3.7v Hercules?
    I have the 7.4 HVD top and bought a 2.5 top but it doesn't heat up anymore. I heard the original top would eventually burn out after extended use with the Hercules so I definitely don't want to do that if theres another option.
  21. Vitolo Vaporist

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    The hammer is for the Persei, I beileve~
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  22. GR Well-Known Member

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    You are correct.

    The hammer runs on 7.4v, while the HVD top does 7.4v the two 14250 batts you need for 7.4v would be drained very quickly, maybe before the hammer ever pre heated. I believe we where told that the Hercules 7.4v would damage the HVD top which could mean the hammer probably would as well, whether it will damage it or not it just won't work.


    The hammer top is for the Persai and will not fit the Omni, the electronics may be beefed up with the Hammer top or not but the switch is press for on, press again for off so you don't have to hold the button down the entire time. Sorry trying to link the pages but Delta9 site has been giving me problems the last few days, I will edit later when I can get it to open.
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  23. Jeppy JedHI Vaporist

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    Heading to the city tomorrow to see the Dr.s. I will be rocking the V1 while there.
  24. DubCRider Well-Known Member

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    I'll be in SF as well, we should meet up somewhere if you have time. PM me if so.
  25. kindbeats Well-Known Member

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    Hey Dub, any chance you'll be near the Anaheim area later this month? I'm going to be visiting for the NAMM convention and would love to meet up!

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