Omicron Vaporizer for oils

Are you using a 14650 or 14500 and how is battery usage?

I was wondering what you meant by "rolling your own"... i am pretty new to the omicron, any tips and tricks suggestions would be appreciated... Like is there ways to get big hits fast from it... or is its nature to give small airy conservative hits... i have gotten bit hits but it seems to take like 5 mins of use before it gets there.. i got mine second hand so no instructions or anything, seems pretty straight forward though... never thought to warm the cart seems like a good idea... anything else i should know though?

I suggest you go read the information in the .pdf files on the Delta 9 site. Included there are instructions for loading carts and using the vape itself.

I also think reading the Vaporpedia page on the device (linked at the top left of this page) is a worth while effort.

OF

i was more interested in tricks you have picked up during your use or observations you have come to make about it... ill give those a read though... as is it works for me, i'm able to fill/use it... just wondered about your opinions about using it better rather than the factory instructions and such... thanks though

EDIT: ya warming the cart helped me a lot... i mixed a cart w/ wax and oil and i had a lot trapped up at the top.. its preforming awesome and consistent now... doesn't take me a long time to get a decent rip every time now...

14650
I have gone 4 complete sessions, before charging. I have not tried to go longer.
that is about an hour.

Has anyone used the stainless steel tank kit D9 sells for e juice? I am curious about how long the expected life is of the 1.5 ohm carts for it, as in 20ml, 40ml, etc of juice?
I know it will probably vary, just looking for an estimate.

I asked D9 through a ticket and they had no idea by the way.

My results are pretty much the same. Looks like you got it down a little better than me though

Just checked the delta website and noticed that the 3.7 Hercules was available to be purchased. I was wondering if there is gonna be a 50% off for the first week or so like you guys have done with all the previous newly released products.

I bet there will but G has been a busy man

Hey everyone, I have a question regarding the build of the omicron/o-phos cartridges. I have an o-phos and recently i bought a new D9 1.5 cart for my vape and I pre-oxidized it and everything, when i went to load it still tasted like chemicals. I was kind of worried about that and so I did some research. I found a video from the thermovape guys and they actually took apart a d9 cart (i can find it if anyone is interested) but it had fiberglass inside and wiring through the airpath. I am concerned about the health issues and was wondering if anyone can shed some light about this. I mean somtimes it actually hurts my lungs after i smoke my o-phos.

Whats the verdict on QWISO in an Omi?
http://karmadelivers.com/Concentrates.html
take a look at the "high quality hash oil" they fessed up that it's an iso - but that price is pretty tempting 4gs for $55, any input?

Really hoping for help! First time at the forum so apologies if I'm violating any rules. I am on my 3rd O-Phos bc every one I get has the same problem or I am misunderstanding something about how to get it to work. I get it home, I charge it, and when I test my cartridge it dies not get the glowing light & heat. Nothing. I've watched videos so I know what it should look like. Has anyone had this happen? This is my third time with this so it must be something I'm doing wrong. Appreciate your knowledge and help!

Does the button light when you press it?
First guess: "five click" lock-out

Merged:

It is green in thin layer - that means not "high quality" with plenty of chlorophyll. (the "glass" look nice, but pricy)

-NFA

It is green in thin layer - that means not "high quality" with plenty of chlorophyll. (the "glass" look nice, but pricy)

-NFA[/quote]

Good call - probly go for the Co2 syringe instead then

You really shouldn't be pre-oxidizing at all, especially with 1.5 carts. They run quite a bit hotter and the funny taste you are experiencing could very well be that you are melting the o rings, or burning the wick. Some off taste does happen at first from time to time, but pre-oxidizing can make things go bad really quick. If you melted the seals, expect it to leak more than usual as well.

You could be burning the cartridges out when you are dry firing them. Aside from that do what Nick Again just said. Press the button 5 times really fast, it has a feature where it locks and unlocks with 5 quick pushes so it won't go off in your pocket accidentally.
As I just said though, you shouldn't be pre-oxidizing the carts at all.

Thank you for the replies. I'm referring to the cartridge tests. The button does not light up, no, and when I look down the cartridge barrel there is no orange light and no heat. The unit is charged.

How can I burn out the cartridges with no heat?

Thanks again so much! I really want my o-Phos to work.

Again try clicking the button 5 times really fast. This is a feature of the o-phos. If you don't unlock it there won't be a light or anything.

Edit: It is statistically nearly impossible that you would receive three that won't work. I still stand by what Nick and myself have said, they have all most likely just been locked, and you aren't unlocking them.

VICTORY!!! YAY!

After 2 months, finally. Good god.

sorry guys i have been absent, while i did go through some issues personally, im back on my feet and will be back on the job fully after the 3rd. Please pm me if you have any questions and i will try to get it resolved as best to my capabilities at this time.

I am glad it is working for you now!
It really is a nice feature though, it will keep you from worrying if the button is getting pressed while the unit is in your pocket(no wasted oil), that is if you aren't too medicated to remember to re-lock it!

Okay why shouldn't I be pre-oxidizing?? Everything I have read including info from D9 says to always pre oxidize, so is this all wrong? Also I have had this same chemical taste problem on the 2.4 carts, so i dont think i am melting the seals, as i am very careful how hot i let the carts get.

AND WHY SHOULD I EVEN HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MELTING SEALS IN THE FIRST PLACE?? that sounds pretty sketchy that can even happen, I mean considering the fact this is a vaporizer and vaporizers get HOT, they should be designed with parts that don't MELT when you use it. So why is there parts that can melt in it?? Am I crazy for asking this? because no one else seems very concerned.. sounds like a cancer lawsuit waiting to happen.

Honestly I am starting to have second thoughts on D9 after I saw FIBERGLASS come out of their cartridge.. Does that worry anyone else?

Also is it just me or do the carts have a chemical taste when first filled (even after pre-oxidizing). I mean if I can taste it, it is definitely getting into my lungs.

I'm really considering getting rid of my o-phos and buying a thermovape because of these reasons, so if anyone can actually give me some educated information on this subject I would greatly appreciate it.. I'm not trying to get cancer from my o-phos...

You shouldn't be pre-oxidizing for the reasons I already stated. The leads from the heater wire go through the bottom seal to the connector on the bottom of the cart. Running the cart when there isn't any oil in there will cause these wires to run hotter than they are supposed to with oil in it, which leads to melting the bottom seal and causing more leaking. You can also cause the wick to get burnt a little leading to the cart having a burnt taste for the life of the cart. You could also completely burn the cart out!
The D9 site, and the instructions that came with it haven't said to pre-oxidize for quite a while now because of this issue that people were finding.

On the cartridges page on D9 it does still say at the top in red lettering "Must be oxidized prior to use(see instructions tab), however when you click on the instructions tab there are no longer any instructions for this.
Also if you read through this thread and the persei thread there was a pretty heavy discussion a while back on why we shouldn't pre-oxidize anymore. The only place that still suggests it is the vaporpedia page, which D9 has nothing to do with so they can't change it. Use the search function on this thread and the persei thread and you will see many people saying not to do this anymore, and at multiple times.

Sorry you didn't know, but now you do.

Edit: Yes the carts do contain a silica wick (also known as fiberglass). G has been working on the updated version for some time now that won't contain a wick at all. Many people, myself included, have been waiting for this new version for quite some time now. It will come eventually.

To add a bit to KK's excellent post, yes many of us are concerned about silica fibers in the wicks. My take is they don't get loose since they're trapped inside the heater coil or in the reservoir where they don't matter. Those that might break free are quickly glued in place by the 'scab' that forms over the heater.

Better if they're not there of course, but IMO not a serious threat.

Another point is taste is a very subjective thing. By testing 10,000 to 1 differences between people in threshold of perception is not uncommon I understand. Smell is something like that as well. Some will literally not taste stuff others can't stand. Go figure.

Several users have also reported taste issues changed a lot or went away entirely with strain changes, most find it stabilizes quite quickly.

Overall I'm a big fan of Omicron carts (at least the 2.4 Ohm ones, I think cloud chasers get in trouble with hotter ones too often).....but don't ask me to choose between them and the Cera oil cart. IMO they are two entirely different beasts.

OF

Thanks a lot for the responses, this clears things up for me. For now on I will just load the oil in the cart before trying to oxidize.. But the factory oils and fiberglass still worry me a bit; wouldn't the factory oils/grease still be present without pre-oxidizing?

I know the taste can be a subjective thing but I have tried over 10 different strains of oil in my carts and they always have that chemical taste to them, and everyone who I have shared it with says the same.. That being said I have always pre oxidized and I also always use 1.5 carts, so that very well could be the reason.

The fact that these carts have parts that can melt at the heat levels produced by the unit itself is still something that seems like a crucial design flaw to me, I mean don't get me wrong I love d9 and i love my o-phos, it just worries me..

Clean them with alcohol first before using them.