Omicron Vaporizer for oils

Actually we're looking for 14500s. Probably the top choice is:
http://www.lighthound.com/AW-IMR-14500-LiMN-Rechargeable-Lithium-Battery_p_3644.html

Edit, OOOps, that's the one I use with the short tube, you need the 650 if you're running the normal one. I think this is where I got my spare, I don't think I found AW brand, perhaps they don't make them?
http://www.cloudsofvapor.com/store/...-high-drain/875-cov-imr-14650-high-drain.html

My favorite charger is this one:
http://www.lighthound.com/Ultrafire...3-37-volt-Lithium-Battery-Charger_p_3669.html

OF

The Omicron uses a 14650 cell, a 18650 will not work.


Ok so here is an update on the Hercules 3.7v


The Hercules 3.7v works great, produces massive clouds. Here is the hitch.

The old v2 and v2.5 tops are not going to be reliable or long lasting. We have already started production on v2.5 tops that can handle the current load and will start replacing old tops soon as they start going bad. As much as we have tried the v2.5's can not sustain a 1.2-1.4 ohm load for long periods of time.

We stand behind our products and will continue to upgrade our devices to make it better.

Great news on the Hercules getting sorted out. Thanks for the news.

If I follow we go ahead and use the existing one for now? And the replacement will be the same basic thing as the current V2.5 (work the same)?

OF

yes use it till it breaks, and send it in when its cooked and we will replace it to the newer v2.5 with the stronger innards that can handle 1.2 ohm loads without issues.

On another side not, we have a fix to get the Hercules to work with the Ophos. testing starts next week.

OK. Thanks for that. What happens when it frys? Completely dead? Light no heat? Won't turn off?

So that means there will be three versions then? That is a lower power for Ophos or is Ophos already able to deal with the higher power?

TIA

OF

how about the HVD tops on a long tube?

Ok sorry I tried to look on the d9 site but it just said two 3.7 batteries included so I wasnt sure.

I was wondering why the 3.7 Hercules cant do oils?
Does it not get hot enough?
If it was used at a higher voltage may it posibly work then?

What is the resistance of the 7.4 Hercules?

It's plenty confusing for sure. Yes, this model does not produce enough heat for the job. It's big brother is running about 35 Watts, mine measures 1.6 Ohms which Omicron is OK with at 3.7 Volts but that will only develop 8.5 Watts.

Raising the voltage will raise the current and therefore power will go up by the square of the increase. Double it (to 7.4 Volts) and the current doubles. Multiply twice the current (what ever it was) by twice the voltage (to get Power in Watts if current was Amps and voltage was Volts) and we have four times the power at twice the voltage.

The rub is poor little Omicron isn't up to all that strain it seems. And who can blame it, really. Four times the power is above and beyond as they say. Going to Persei's bigger battery and tougher electronics is the key.

G said the 3.7 Volt Hercules is running 1.2 Ohms IIRC. So that's 3.7/1.2 for 3 Amps. This times 3.7 Volts means 11.5 Watts. Remember these are calculated values. Hot off the charger will likely be a little more, the average a bit less since the supply won't put out the expected 3.7 (or 7.4 depending) Volts for a host of 'small' reasons. This power is just outside the normal 2.5 Amp maximum for the design which is why they go out over time and need the improved version still to come to be used full time this way. Getting enough power to do herbs is 'pushing the envelope' just a bit too far.

This is a tough nut to crack (obviously), which is why G and D9 put in the big hours to get this far.

FWIW I wonder what he's got up his sleeve to get it to fly with Ophos (can't upgrade the head there....). That should prove interesting as well.

Hope this helps at least a bit?

OF

Ok here are combos on how the 3.7v Hercules will work on the Omicron.

V2 original 3.7v should work ok but your not going to get the best performance. The top is going to give out sooner or later due to stress of the 1.2 ohm or 1.3 ohm loads.

v2.5 its going to work great, but going to give out sooner or later.

HVD tops will work great with a single 14650 battery not 7.4v mode. It will handle the loads and keep on going.

New v2.5 tops will handle the issue and then some. Its designed to run 1 ohm loads so that anyone wanting to run anything thats 1 ohm.

The Ophos will not run it no matter what. We are thinking of how to approach this and still keep the price of the Ophos as the same. We have a few samples we will test and we shall see.

Ok thanks. That spoils my idea lol.

You're welcome. Not to worry, most of my ideas are really bad looking back. Remember, nearly all mutations are fatal, yet mutation is how we got from pond life to sitting in front of computers.....

Some call that progress you know.

OF

So can we expect the pre-order to be up tomorrow for the 3.7v herc?

Im not sure about tomorrow but maybe by monday.



1701 testing. video being uploaded.

Hey, I was wondering if anyone knew if it was okay to use a 1.5 ohm cartridge for the HVD 7.4. Just wanted to check to see if I could use it with the amber glass in there since it creates more heat than the 3.7.

You can use the 1.5 ohm with 1 single battery only. You can use the HVD top with it no worries, but you cant go past the 4.2v on the 1.5 as its going to give out if you run 7.4v on a 1.5 ohm.

cool man, looking forward to it !
Also, looking forward to these 1701 carts now too. You're getting some huge fucking rips

Standing in line at the theater to see the Trailer Park Boys and the person with me says, "Hey....isn't that an Omicron like you have?"

I look over to see a dude just puffing away in the lobby on an Omicron with a cartridge and nobody the wiser.

Glad to start seeing these out and about instead of being the "only guy" with the cool toy.

-Z

Hey G,

I ended up having several replacements as my v2.5 head kept blowing out. The newest replacement head that I recieved is working great and does not seem to have the same issues as the original v2.5's that I owned.

My question is my current v2.5 head is about twice the size of the original v2.5 (looks to be the same size as the HVD heads) Instead of saying HVD or a standard serial number is says "R229" is this the "new" head that you were speaking of that can handle the 1ohm loads? or is there an even newer version of head that is being released?

Can you show me a image?

Ive never uploaded a pic so I hope this works... I received this Head from John shortly after the meet and greet at SPARC in SF. Its the same size as the HVD and says Omicron on the head unlike the original v2's and v2.5's

they are not the new tops, they will give out on the hercules sooner or later. The ones i am talking about the tops that have a chrome ring on top. Let me show you how they look.

This top is for the HVD but the regular new v2.5 tops looks exactly the same. Just the voltage limit.

the standard v2.5 can do 4.2v max while the hvd does 7.4v. The HVd is marked HVD on the Serial number.

Is there any Herc issues with the HVD tops without the chrome ring?

I did send in mine and got a replacement recently, but I think it was right before the chrome ring tops were produced.

The HVD tops will work with the Hercules if they do give out we will still replace it to the newer versions. But they should be good to go.

This is herb only 3.7 Volt versions, right? Omicron won't drive the 7.4 Volt herb/oil version? Trying to keep it all straight.

TIA

OF

Yeah I meant just the HVD in the long tube with a single battery for 3.7v