Omicron Vaporizer for oils

Jared don't feel bad man, I'm switching back to 2.4 ohm because 1.5 i have too many problems and it taste bad (but hits like a dab!)

I wonder when the new carts are coming out. My carts leak and clog.

ok i just checke 20 cartridges have not seen any bad taste like the ones stated above. I just dont see it anymore.

Could it be phantom taste? because of the early complaints?

We will start testing the leak proof's and clog proofs late next week.

There are some very old carts out there man, tons of places bought up your first 2.4 and 1.5's by the bulk... I guess some of the early bad batches are still out there?

I recently bought two 2.4 carts from harborside oakland and they were the original unprinted ones

Could be, but i sent JAred new ones. Thats what puzzles me.

Yeah, but how did you calibrate him?

Kidding aside (for just a bit), this is a very subjective area. I assume you tried the batch you sent him for taste/smell before sending them? I doubt the PO opened the box..... Not to second guess Jared, of course, but to try to find a scale point here somewhere? Perhaps he could send you any of the smelly ones not full of contraband?

Also, I agree with a former poster. I've noticed a difference in taste with the higher power carts. In fact putting a single cart on a VV head is kind of interesting sometimes..... Could it just be an artifact of that? I'm stuck on the 2.4s being OK and these 1.5s being very bad......well I guess two different batches, which makes it even more puzzling.

OF

for me the "bad taste" w/ those carts is easily chalked up to overheating. you do need to pre-oxidize a little, even w/ new ones and any remaining smell is just from that burning off. you'll be fine once you add the oil. imho
in my previous experience vaping oils (i won't go into which ones) you will get a horrible taste the closer to combustion you get (and this will combust, don't believe me? just put a little oil on a nail and hit it w/ a torch, see the flame? that is oil combustion) the more awful it will taste, as well as feel in the lungs. you always new when you had overheated your oil when it felt like someone was sitting on ur chest the next day. usually i find people hold the button way too long when hitting 1.5, especially if it is sap. a couple secs on and off usually does the trick. just my two cents

Once again, Bob, I'm with ya there. Cooking the stuff doesn't seem to do it any good taste wise. That should have no effect on this 'pre oxidizing' stuff, but we're dealing with taste here. Folks can vary a huge amount here, I'm sure you know a few folks that have no taste at all even???

I suspect the oil masks any residual taste for lots of us?

Too bad we don't have some 'standards' or even just knowns to fall back on. Look at the spread of experiences in the great cart test off? I think most agree it's better, but what exactly that means I'm not sure.

Let's hope this gets sorted out, most if not all the other taste issues were finally identified and dealt with. For now, I with you thinking the smart money should be on 'overcooked'....

OF

I also think the bad taste is caused by overheating. I use 1.5 carts and in my opinion they are to easy to overheat and maybe they also combust if you hold the button more than 3s. And I suppose the bad taste remains in the cart if you overheat it to often...
In my case they also irritate to much my throat. (and I don't have this problem with other vapes)

well if we agree on this, do we also agree that if you overheat when filling, besides clogs and leaks, you are likely to have an immediate burnt taste as well? just as oil at the end of a cart tastes worse than oil at the beginning? i personally think they might have to make a 6 ohm cart for sap on the 7.4 hvd unit. i am ripping sap on two 5ohm (yay new double tip!) at 6v right now with a few secs on and off and getting the tastiest, fullest hits, i've ever gotten on the persei b4. the clouds could put down an elephant. nothing like this seen by any other machine!

I'd like to chime in and say that my best flavor experience has been with 2-5ohm carts @ 3.7v. Warm up take a bit, but seems worth it depending on how much time I got. I also believe the high power carts tread the line of combustion, I have always countered this with pulsating the button, like bob.

i'd like to chime in here once again and recommend everyone use a heatgun w/ reflector for heat-shrinking tubing instead of lighter. i use one that gets to 350 deg f top temp and it works plenty well, even on the lower setting. they are around $20 and a safe and effective way to fill your carts, my two cents. i hear some people are even using hair dryers?

Sounds good man, I may have to try that. The last couple months I've been using a block of wood and the oven @170deg F, for 20 min+/-. A fill that takes less than a minute is definitely more prone to problems. Took me some time to learn that one.

Speaking of overheating oil and bad tastes some of the best tastes I am getting from my BHO is mixing it with already vaped flower in my Buddah. The flower soaks up the oil like a champ then act like a wick while vaping, the flavor I get is great and differs greatly from strain to strain. I am not saying I get bad flavor from the Omni but I have not experienced this clarity of flavor from the Omni. I even get great flavor from reclaimed Omni carts that I know I over heated to get out.

Temp control with the 1.5s are something that I have found to be very useful. Each strain I have needs a slightly different on/off on the button to bring the most flavor from the hit, not something I can do 100% of the time but when I am in zen mode it is very easy and tasty.

I do have a strain of BHO (train wreck ) that likes to clog 1.5 carts very easily, not exactly sure why yet but the clogs get so annoying before a second fill of .5g that I usually just fill a new one with that strain and do a reclaim to add to my mutant oil.

it can be overheating as this causes some issues, specially if the oil is not so clean, this could mean that some dirty stuff in their is burning off.


Man i have no clue anymore. To many oils, to many different variables. all i can do is make sure that our process is clean.

Back to testing more carts.


Remember OF we introduced the pre ox process into our production and the current 1.5's have it already because all are fresh and brand new.

it was only 2 carts i had, and i actually got some more 1.5's cause this collective was out of 2.4 and there going good, i think it all comes to to what you put in.

I think so too, but still as a company we have to take all feed back into consideration.

of course, as for feedback the newest 1.5's are awesome better than the ones from at least a month ago when i got my v2. no leaks no clogs going strong, and no taste problems

This cart revolutionized the industry, but was not perfect, the learning curve is steep. Just like the first automobile.

The v2 should resolve most of the issues with leaks, and clogs.

V3 still being tested should resolve all issues.

I don't worry about your processes, pre ox included. Your the pros. I'm a little worried about over zealous dry burns by us amateurs. Get a little heavy handed and you can add to your troubles seems to me?

I 'hear' something like "currently im pre-oxidizing the shit outta a fresh 1.5" and the little voices start in on me again......

OF

So I roll up to a local dispensary to pick up some single empty carts this morning and the Feds are raiding the place.
El Camino Wellness in Sacramento is no more. The fed's truck with all their medicine just pulled out of the parking lot.





FUCK THE FEDS !!!!!

They cant leave anyone alone can they? Hey look there goes a million+ in tax dollars wasted confiscating a harmless substance; gee thanks nObama.

This is not good. Why this particular one? This is past the write a few nasty letters to landlords ploy they've been using. This one costs serious money to pull off then deal with afterward, as has been said it's surprising and somewhat comforting to discover there's money to waste this way.....er, make that 'invest' this way?

Anyway, I don't know they, why are they picked out? Oaksterdam I understand.... Maybe.

Oh, BTW, this is Fuck Combustion.....Fuck the Feds is a different forum I think? They're further down the (alphabetical) list?

OF

You know what's funny...

I, like I'm sure countless others, wrote an email to him regarding his continuation of the failed Drug War and why they continue to group cannabis in with harder drugs.

Well he, or someone on his behalf at least, actually responded:

No mention of the fact that most of the drugs coming from Mexico are harmless cannabis... and that if cannabis was legalized smugglers would have nothing to smuggle but immigrants...

He even acknowledges treatment for harder drug addiction is the most cost-effective way to help people. But then why do we still waste money incarcerating people who aren't being violent?