Discussion in 'Vaporization Discussion' started by shredder, Jul 4, 2017.
I seen on ICMag forum a post about a 180 year old Australian wooden J shaped vaporizer... it was shaped like a big bowl and the herb was put down in the J bend... the top of the bowl had a screen which hot coal was placed... you then draw air through those hot coals that then gets drawn through the herb in the bend and you get vapors! 180 years old is an old one!
Interesting, almost similar types are mentioned in RC Clarke's Hashish book - but he says they originated in Jamaica for ritual purposes, in India are also some types 'hot coal pipes'...
There are also other simple methods that have been around for who knows how long, eg hot knives - put a bit of hash on a knife tip, heat another knife tip to the right temp and place it on top
Found this online but all in Spanish...
Here is what I started out with back around 1994 or 1995. It was basically a soldering iron with the tip removed and replaced with a brass dish. A plastic housing with a whip tube and glass dome to trap all that sweet vapor. The herb had to be moistened first with a little bit of water, but once it was moist enough it was beautiful. Many a people got ripped off this thing, and it made the most beautiful "hash oil" inside of the globe, little did we know that was just decarbed vapor reclaim but it tasted so good! Virtually nobody had oil at the time!
The first cannabis/tobacco vaporizing device ,made it's appearance the year 1560 ce .
Hookah cross-section view
A small hookah
The jar at the bottom of the hookah is filled with water sufficient to submerge a few centimeters of the body tube, which is sealed tightly to it. Deeper water will only increase the inhalation force needed to use it. Tobacco or tobacco-free molasses are placed inside the bowl at the top of the hookah. Often the bowl is covered with perforated tin foil or a metal screen and coal placed on top. The foil or screen separates the coal and the tobacco, which minimizes inhalation of coal ash with the smoke and reduces the temperature the tobacco is exposed to, in order to prevent burning the tobacco directly.
When one inhales through the hose, air is pulled through the charcoal and into the bowl holding the tobacco. The hot air, heated by the charcoal vaporizes the tobacco without burning it.[verification needed] The vapor is passed down through the body tube that extends into the water in the jar. It bubbles up through the water, losing heat, and fills the top part of the jar, to which the hose is attached. When a smoker inhales from the hose, smoke passes into the lungs, and the change in pressure in the jar pulls more air through the charcoal, continuing the process.
If the hookah has been lit and smoked but has not been inhaled for an extended period, the smoke inside the water jar may be regarded as "stale" and undesirable. Stale smoke may be exhausted through the purge valve, if present. This one-way valve is opened by the positive pressure created from gently blowing into the hose. It will not function on a multiple-hose hookah unless all other hoses are plugged. Sometimes one-way valves are put in the hose sockets to avoid the need to manually plug hoses.
Mistaken by many ,that is a smoking device.
Well if it's well "prepared" and used ,it's not.
It actually vaporizes it's load.
Still ,the heat source used (coal) releases toxic fumes and particles .
Far from ideal.
I posted about this in another thread recently, but some cannabis experts describe primitively vaporizing off of hot rocks, likely even earlier than the hookah!
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Here'e the part in the video I mentioned in that other thread (start at 8min 35sec for the part I'm talking about)
5th century BC these dudes were hotboxing caves like absolute beasts
I am sure this is a very, very, old vape idea.
I had one of those!
Yes ,that is correct actually !
(...)Cannabis was an integral part of the Scythian cult of the dead, wherein homage was paid to the memory of their departed leaders. After the death and burial of their king, the Scythians would purify themselves by setting up small tepee-like structures which they would enter to inhale the fumes of hemp seeds (and the resinous flower calyxes surrounding the seeds) thrown onto red-hot stones.
In a famous passage written in about 450 B.C., Herodotus describes these funeral rites as follows:
...when, therefore, the Scythians have taken some seed of this hemp, they creep under the cloths and put the seeds on the red hot stones; but this being put on smokes, and produces such a steam, that no Grecian vapour-bath would surpass it. The Scythians, transported by the vapour, shout aloud.
It is most likely the seeds described by Herodotus were seeded buds, and that the charred seeds found by archeologists are what was left over from the burnt buds.(...)
Do you have any details about the vape in the 1st pic? The one with the blue LED?
Seems to be a brass core which is good but a copper sleeve, hope that it never got too hot.
I would love to know what powered it!
It almost looks as if the brass end was spun round on a lathe, very cool!
i think it was 1998 or 99 when i bought my first tabletop vape.
it came with a bunch of tiny test tubes. you'd stick the test tube (full of weed) into a hole of the heating unit where it would heat up. you'd put a "straw" into the top of the test tube and gently inhale so as to not inhale the weed.
i tried to find out whatever happened to that guy but i can't even remember the name of the vape.
i didn't like it at that time as most people that i read were saying that if you saw vapor, you were vaping too hot. that it should be just barely visible.
took 3 more table tops before i tried a vape balloon device. been in love ever since.
come to think of it, there was a lot of honey oil around the phoenix area in the 70s. we used to put the oil into a glass pipe, and heat the bottom. i'm assuming this would pass for vaporizing? this was waaaaay before the "crack pipe" era.
Of course it is first generation Ettera . There a thread called obscure and obsolete vapes,many of those can be found there .
Actually it is the Ettera's granny
I tried calling .... it's now a roadside assistance hotline.
or maybe .... just maybe .... that's what they want you to think
I thought it was asking that as well, lol. I'm 55. I know we have a few members here that the 2 of us could be the children of age wise.
That looks exactly like my first dry-herb vape. It was my proof-of-concept that convinced me to spend money on a real vaporizer.
Use it right and you gan get equal efficiency to anything else. It's a lot of f***ing work, but...ya know
I bought a vriptech adapt-abowl for use with a heatgun around '02. I had to post the money all the way across the pond and wait an age for it.
Everyone thought i was fucking crazy ripping bongs with a paint-stripper !!!!
I only remember the volcano, that was like 9 years ago.
Bought something very similar in either 69' - '71 time frame but the cover was dome shaped, the heating surface was silica type material (like the windows in old fuses, yeah) over a metal coil heating element and it definitely burnt. Actually, what I had was a piece of junk but I certain can't extend that to the Tilt as I have never seen one of those in the wild.
Love the log vapes. Even though it's still around wouldn't the vaporbrothers fit in this thread. They say theirs started in 99.
I tried doing the heat gun thing, but it would blow herb around. Maybe it just needs a good seal and large bowl, and not full air speed
Sign me up!!!
Babies yes but not quite young enough to be your babies. I had my birthday in March and now I'm older than everyone everywhere.
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