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Gear "Oil Slick" products REVIEWED

Discussion in 'Concentrates' started by farscaper, Jan 24, 2013.

  1. kushcabbage

    kushcabbage vapor nerd

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    perfect run on the new large pad, old small slick pad still being used to keep small batches, until I scrape them up with the dart! Also slick ball being utilized :) Also full view is highly recommended by clicking the pic! (minus the dog hair in the ball!)[​IMG]
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  2. b0

    b0 Vapor powered

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    Can this be double boiled while doing QWISO?
     
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  3. kushcabbage

    kushcabbage vapor nerd

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    yes, temps up to 500F are listed as safe, but I would never go that far.
     
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  4. farscaper

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    you will ruin your concentrate before you ruin the pad if you are hitting temps that high.
     
  5. kushcabbage

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    true, just showing the capability of the pad sometimes I hit it with my wagner heat gun in quick bursts, that thing gets damn hot
     
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  6. farscaper

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    yea, and it retains heat as well... i use it directly on the griddle surface... and remove it often due to the nature of the material to retain the heat, it can take a couple minutes for the pad to cool to above room temp for wherever u have it... I almost feel like it builds up in the pad. Which can be a good thing... could aid in vac purging...

    i like to heat up my small ones on a candle warmer, then take a bit of some shatter and place it the fold of one that has been "pre heated" can make it a little easier to handle without having bits flying all about... found and chunk stuck in my beard one time!

    :smug: leftovers!
     
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  7. Deadshort480

    Deadshort480 I got a fever! The only cure is more glass, baby!

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    These pads are the same thing as Silpat nonstick baking sheets, yes?
     
  8. farscaper

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    in a word, No. They are very similar... they look basically the same, say for the color.

    This is what were talking about yes?
    http://www.amazon.com/Silpat-Non-Stick-Baking-2-inches-Sheet/dp/B00008T960

    The big difference here is the Silpat is made of food grade silicone.

    The Oil Slick Pad is made of: USP6 "Medical" grade Silicone. keeping in mind that even on the slick pad website it says it is only solvent resistant. that would be the one big plus with the sheets made of PTFE. They are 100% non-polar solvent resistant

    On a total side note about the slick sheets. I can be sure cause i have yet to try and am a little leary about doing so, but i will speculate that the sheet will also be difficult to use in alcohol purging because of its textile like design... it seemed to be ok with non-polars, but i wonder if something like a polar solvent would seep through... hard to say...


    A final word about the silpat's, I can only speculate... but from what i can tell there is no reason to choose a silpat for price reasons... the question looming over the silpat wouldn't spur me (personally) into buying a silpat over an oil slick since i know that the slicks work...
    however, If you are having trouble buying oil slick products then it might be worth a try... never will know til you do try, but i don't know how hard it is to get an oil slick pad outside of the US... it seems rather difficult seeing that people were having such a hard time finding one in Canada... I think that is a bummer... maybe FC needs a worldwide distributor of Oil Slick products...

    :tup:
     
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  9. 2clicker

    2clicker up to my ears in clams Accessory Maker

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    i would like to see a OSP size in between the duo set and the large pad.

    i need one that will fit into my pyrex w/out sticking out the top/sides... if that makes sense. can OSPs be cut? or will they start to come apart on the edges?
     
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  10. farscaper

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    Agreed! i have actually been thinking about halving mine. split it right in two. I have seen these little Pyrex storage containers at Walmart... they are like Tupperware size Pyrex dishes with a lid. if i cut it in half then i would have 2 "medium" instead of 1 large. I usually only run 5g at a time with my little cut down tube... so it would be the perfect size for small run BHO, QWIOS & QWET.

    I don't see why it would hurt really... your only concern is the face of the pad, not the edge, so i don't think there is anything to harm but the fact that you will no longer have a big pad.
     
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  11. Deadshort480

    Deadshort480 I got a fever! The only cure is more glass, baby!

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    Its not a $ thing, the wife has about 2 dozen Silpats. I figured I'd give one a shot before buying something else.
     
  12. dannkk

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    I've used a silpat for qwiso. Works fine. It might get tore up pretty quickly purging butane on it though.
     
  13. 2clicker

    2clicker up to my ears in clams Accessory Maker

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    i was just wondering if it would fray or start to come apart on the cut edge. i only say this because im thinking the green edge is there for a reason...? :shrug: or is it just green?

    i also use a small pyrex with the tupperware type of lid. when purging i have a sheet of SS fine mesh that gets clamped to the sides of the dish. in an effort to keep any airborne debris from getting into the stickiness. so because this screen cover clamps to the edge of my dish the large OSP would prevent me from being able to do this. if i can cut it then that would be perfect!
     
  14. Bob Loblaw

    Bob Loblaw Astralnaut

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    pads are safe to cut and resize. have done so myself
     
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  15. 2clicker

    2clicker up to my ears in clams Accessory Maker

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    exactly what i wanted to hear! thanks
     
  16. Deadshort480

    Deadshort480 I got a fever! The only cure is more glass, baby!

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    Don't cut the pads. They have fiberglass mesh inside. Cutting the pad can fray the fiberglass and then particles have the ability to migrate into you oil. Not good.
     
  17. 2clicker

    2clicker up to my ears in clams Accessory Maker

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    hubba hubba WHA?
     
  18. Deadshort480

    Deadshort480 I got a fever! The only cure is more glass, baby!

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    The mesh inside the pad that retains heat and spreads it out so evenly is fiberglass mesh. When you cut the pad, that fiberglass mesh can fray and particulate.
     
  19. Bob Loblaw

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    these are medical grade silicone. shouldn't be any fiberglass.
    post source of info? again, i will say that i personally have cut them and had no
    fraying or degradation of product. to each his own and do as thou wilt and such,
    but haven't seen any personally
     
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  20. Deadshort480

    Deadshort480 I got a fever! The only cure is more glass, baby!

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    Yes, the silicone that is used is medical grade, but the fibers inside the pad are fiberglass. There is actually no documentation of that I can find anywhere because not one website bothers to give the information of what the material is used inside the mat. The material inside the mat has to have certain properties to retain and evenly distribute heat, fiberglass is the perfect solution. The popular baking mats, Silpats, use the same principle except for using food grade silicon rather than medical grade. The inner mesh of those mats are fiberglass and the company strongly recommends never cutting the mat and to discard any mat that has been cut.

    Perhaps Oil Slick went a different route and didn't use fiberglass, but highly doubt it. I would not recommend cutting the mats until there is documentation on what the fibrous mesh is inside the mat.
     
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  21. 2clicker

    2clicker up to my ears in clams Accessory Maker

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    i went to the OSP site to contact them and there isnt a way to do so... :shrug:
     
  22. Deadshort480

    Deadshort480 I got a fever! The only cure is more glass, baby!

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    Very little info on their site. I guess I shouldn't say for a certainty that the mesh is fiberglass, but I still suggest being safe over sorry.
     
  23. Bob Loblaw

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    makes sense, thanks for the suggestions
     
  24. Tweek

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    The mesh is indeed fiberglass; I recall them mentioning it on another forum. Let me see if I can dig it up.

    "the point of the fiberglass weave is primarily to evenly distribute heat. a normal heat pad has a coil under it and has hot spots where the actual element is. the oil slick spreads out the heat perfectly. (laser temp gun is proof). we have tried it on everything from an electric griddle to a cast iron pan."

    So cutting is a no go as you can get these fibers into your skin or product. You also do not want to be inhaling the fibers either.
     
  25. Deadshort480

    Deadshort480 I got a fever! The only cure is more glass, baby!

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    So, please be careful with the cut pad, Bob.
     

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