Oh God..............

Connecticut Elementary School Shooting. Dead count is now up to 20. This dwarfs Columbine. These are just young children for Christs sake.

Soooooo fucked up.

This WILL raise the gun control debate to a whole new level.

Holy shit.

Why shoot kids or students who can't fight back.You never hear anybody going into a biker bar or ghetto.WTF is the point in these shootings? Trust me we all pay for what we do on this earth.If the killer thought he had it bad now....Just wait till the lights go out

Thinking about this is startin' to get me a bit teary eyed.

27 reported dead now (as per CNN), 18 of which where children. The school is K thru 4. These were just babies.

Kids shouldn't have to deal with this shit. The most they should be worrying about, is what they are getting for Christmas for fucks sake. This is just terrible. Poor innocent babies...

Why the hell do these crazy's always pick on a soft target...killing kids is mad.

Exactly, WTF is wrong with people?? Why the fuck pick schools?

thoughts and prayers go out to everyone involved. Real messed up

Death toll is fluctuating with these early reports.

These are such young children just going to school, all excited about Christmas, and then..........

Just breaks my heart.........

I also heard the shooter killed his own mother, who was a teacher at the school.

A teacher said a child said to her, "I don't want to die, I want to have Christmas".

And what about the parents going home to a Christmas tree full of presents for their child that will never, ever............come home again.

Wonder if there is a way we can raise money and or goods as a community? Anyone good at that sort of thing?

Just saw Obama address this about 2 min. ago. I've never seen a President break out in tears in the middle of a speech. He said that he was addressing the nation, not so much as a President, but as a father. THAT was plainly obvious.

Gun free zones are kill zones. Malls, schools and theaters are easy targets. I have taught my kids to know what is going on around them at all times. They have a good sense when things aren't right.

Actually, I'd say its very much a talking point regarding guns. But yeah, we can leave that to another thread.

Not just talking points regarding guns, but also talking points about our mental health care system.

We won't ever be able to stop ALL of this crap, but we sure as hell can do things to help lessen the frequency and lessen the amount of carnage.

This really should go down as a national day of remembrance because this wasn't a tragedy by an act of God, but by an act of man, and behind all of our outrage and sadness over this, I know at least for me, there is also a bit of guilt because I KNOW that we could have done more to at least TRY to prevent shit like this from happening.

It's a crying shame that it would take the deaths of 20 little eight year old kids to get us off our ass.

Sorry if these comments shouldn't be in this thread, but what happened here SHOULD spark debate and conversation and if it belongs in another thread, so be it.

I'm deeply saddened by all of this, and my thoughts and prayers go to the
parents of the victims. At Christmas this has to be a real test of faith and
forgiveness.

For the first time (in a long time) tears were a flowing from me. And well for the first time (first time) it was for total strangers whom I have never met.

If you read some of the stories that are coming out about the heroism of some who went to great lengths to protect their children, it doesnt take away that pain, but it does make it a bit easier to digest.
One that stood out was this one lady who hid her children in the closets and cabinets when she heard the shots. The gunman came to her classroom and she told them they were in the gym. He shot and killed her and then moved on. How many lives did she save in that quick instance? That act of selflessness should be the headlines - not the act of selfishness of this PoS who did this crap.

Yeah, me too. I had the same reaction to this as I had to 911, possibly even a bit stronger.