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Not allowed to be my stash dilemma

Discussion in 'The Vapor Lounge' started by gangababa, Aug 10, 2014.

  1. gangababa

    gangababa Well-Known Member

    center of the jagat
    I pondered awhile in consideration of the best forum for this post. The realization came that, although you will see that this is my personal rant, this discussion involves three overlapping sets of cannabis consumers.

    Before continuing, I need say: I know that many are in need of the marijuana's medical blessings. I am truly glad that medical marijuana is available with all its attendant benefits for research, PR, loosening of laws, saving of lives.

    In my town, the most recent local free-weekly community newspaper has a two-page centerfold, group advertisement brought to you by: Dr. Vape. I have just learned that this is a local business.
    Two pages, featuring 18 medical dispensaries (plus two others elsewhere in the paper) most within walking distance of home.

    18 pictures offering one chocolate truffle (18.3%THC,< 1%%CBD), five oils, concentrates, crumbles, shatters, wax;
    11 beautiful buds with names like Uno, Alien OG, OG#18, Green Crack, T4, K2, ATF, God Bud, Frank's Gift, Grand Daddy Purple, Mandy's Dream.

    Two pages describing "...crumble...hybrid concentrate is packed with mono and sequestiterpenes...grape flavor and aroma"; "In house extracted-potent. Shishkaberry shatter...fruit and berry aroma...84% THC"; "...Dexter's finest local buds...25.94 THC"; "Produced by Higher Minds Horticulture...sativa that stays true to its namesake. Sweet scented with a hint of mango..."; " A phenomenal Indica, rich in terpenes, with an amazing coffee house flavor...brought (here) 20 years ago..."; "The Growers Guild very own...highest tested CBD strain in the world...24.6% CBD".
    Words to go with the pretty pictures: surpasses desires, snap & pull, uplifting, great sweet taste, like a locomotive, sweet overtones, earthy undertones, great for...

    OK you get the idea. While some reading this can find markets similarly offering nearby your own homes, most of us are totally stuck in the black market. We are second class cannabis consumers in medical marijuana model states. I am. I do not have a medical card. My condition qualifies for prozac but not pot. I do not have any overlapping social-set circumstances to legally source from those fine farmers serving the medical market.

    A newsprint vision of the privileged life is dangled before the eyes of this 68 year old, four-decade long, self medicater but the doors are locked. Healthy people need not apply. Sorry, your cheeks are too rosy. Come back when you're less colored.

    While overlapping the long illegal venn set of cannabis consumers, the long illegal venn set of producers is now partially overlapping the smaller venn set of consumers with cards. To this we can add two states that have seen the senselessness and created another venn set of legal consumers. The illegality of decades lightens but won't open freely to all self-responsible adults.

    Anyone want to draw the diagram? I simply want to walk freely into these locally advertised addresses.
    Like a Christian Scientist, I am experiencing religious discrimination for being (praise the power) too little in need of the medical profession.
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2014
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  2. 215z

    215z Well-Known Member

    Wanna move? The weather here in Oakland is quite pleasant. I will help as much as possible with finding you a housing and work. Here we don't question HOW sick you are.
  3. wootze

    wootze Well-Known Member

    Hiya, what about medical oil in the Bay Area?
  4. Farid

    Farid Well-Known Member

    I pay more for medical weed. Significantly more. I also have to place my orders a few days in advance, compared to the black market option of just running to my neighbours house whenever I need to pick up. I know the rules differ state to state, but here in MA, many medical patients still use the black market to get their meds. It's nice knowing what strains I'm getting, and having piece of mind that I'm not breaking the law, but other than that it's still... just pot.

    I know it seems the grass is always danker on the other side. Five years ago I would've been bitching about how all I could get in my town was cheap KB, and access to dank bud was inconsistent. Now I've got constant access to dank bud, but I still find myself missing the old KB we used to get. For the price it got really good yields making pressed hash. The only thing that's come close is the cheap trim made hash I can get.
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  5. Jethro

    Jethro Well-Known Member

    Tooky, Granite State
    • You are making an awful lot of assumptions about the OP and name calling is not permitted. Warning point issued.
    Ok, I guess I won't endorse lying on an open forum, but isn't that what most people do? If you were/are willing to self medicate illegally, why are you not (how should I say) more creative in your selection of health care providers? Because that is what 90% of most card carriers do- or am I delusional/ignorant about it? I do not live in a MMJ state- or at least a state with dispensaries (I don't even understand it fully).

    Like Farid said, the bonus to the black market seems to be a higher grade of general availability. People are more clued in and know what good pot is and they want it. The market, black or otherwise, will answer that call for the rest of us.
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  6. syrupy

    syrupy Authorized Buyer

    I feel for the OP. It has to suck having it in his face all the time, and still be out of reach. :bang:

    It's odd how different things are, even among medical states. I know people in medical states who don't qualify for the tiny list of approved conditions. If they were in California, they'd be fine. Practically speaking, all I can do is suggest they look at moving, as @215z did. Oakland has a ton of good ganja karma.... :2c:
  7. Higher than a Pterodactyl

    Higher than a Pterodactyl You can call me Caveman.

    Where the sun sets.
    There is a ton of oil in the bay @wootze . I just go to Santa Cruz for mine lately though.

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  8. wootze

    wootze Well-Known Member

    Is the rent too high in Oakland?
    Is the drought too dry in Oakland?

    Is the earth too quakey in Oakland?
    Is the wake too bakey in Oakland?

    D'ya take your job and shove it in Oakland?
    Or d'ya totally love it in Oakland?
  9. Puffers

    Puffers Micro-Climate Mastermind

    Cali, Bay Area

    We did have a good quake last nite a 6.1 in American canyon about 25 miles from Oakland. I work in Oakland, well pretty much anywhere between Sac and San Fran. I wouldn't live in Oakland personally mostly because I hate dealing with the traffic but I love the Bay Area.

    To the OP I have been a med patient in Cali for over 5 years and probably have been into a dispensary less then 20 times. I might go for an edible or a novelty product but for the most part I go to the source. Dispensaries are really overpriced and smaller ones that aren't extremely overpriced can have poor quality control. I find I get much more consistent meds at a much better value when I get it from the grower/extractor.
  10. wootze

    wootze Well-Known Member

  11. gangababa

    gangababa Well-Known Member

    center of the jagat
    As I opined and whined, I can not enter a dispensary in my neighborhood, my town, my state.
    A friend can, however, and when I visited I was shown these.
    The packaging and product are mixed up, so white goes to right and the black is thus left.
    The "hybrid" marked black rod is a disposable vaporizer. More about it is posted here.

    I tried to learn about these strains online without much success. I suspect T4 is a Trainwreck variation.
    Sorry, as I am not entitled to these medicines I cannot report on them.

    But, I am bothered by the packaging. Are there not already too many pill bottles in our landfills? Should we be adding still more plastic packaging to our environment? Will the MJ industry develop the equivalent of a bottle-return system?
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  12. TeeJay1952

    TeeJay1952 Well-Known Member

    Hash bowl, stuffed with a bud capped with wax. 100% use and cruise.
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  13. Enchantre

    Enchantre Oil Painter

    WA USA
    I believe you have brought up a very valid concern -- packaging.
    Here in WA, I'm pretty sure that the recreational producers/processors/retailers all have to use super-special packaging, and the medical markets are starting to lean that way, too. I, also, prefer to buy from the growers, and usually do. Baggies are still king there, along with regular paper lunch bags.
    For dispensary purchases, I can, and SHOULD, just bring a jar in with me (hmm, a Satchmo @JyARz might work), or a previously obtained "pill" bottle, and get it filled.

    I find the mj magazines available here in WA (Northwest Leaf & Culture) to be strangely slanted. While medical mj has been in place here for years, the recreational side is very recent, but the magazines all seem, to me, to be advertizing to the young, the hip, the urbanite crowd. Sure, they use the term "medicine" in some places, but it's all hip hop and trendy music and rappers.

    That's displaced consumer circles, rather than overlapping.

    Anyway, yes. The end of prohibition can't come too soon.
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  14. Mr. Gweilo 420

    Mr. Gweilo 420 Dude

    The Far East
    OP I think you should stop feeling sorry for yourself and figure out a way to get a medical card. I pay $500 for an oz and risk prison and the end of my career everytime I buy cannabis. It is all relative imo.
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  15. gangababa

    gangababa Well-Known Member

    center of the jagat
    All relative my SisterBrother, including my mixing of muddy metaphors, total truth and illusory references to frustrate the flat-foots.
    I do not feel sorry. I feel snide and sarcastic and righteous indignant.
    I too risk as you say, but do so for only $100 an ounce, wholesale from the garden.
    Luckily my career is already over and the furthest East I need fear the bud-busters is Boston, USA

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