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NewVape FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by natural farmer, Nov 17, 2016.

  1. Alexis

    Alexis Peace keeper, fun maker and 3/4 time vaporist.

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    Me thinks also you may want it to SO much better that sooner or later you just HAVE to upgrade when you have used every excuse in the book not to.;)
     
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  2. YaMon

    YaMon Vaping since 2010

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    It’s either this or some type of baffles to break the column of air. I see baffles problematic as material will accumulate on the surfaces. Great to see NewVape!
     
  3. juxt

    juxt Well-Known Member

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    If they change it this soon, you'd think they would at least send us a Ti nail to close off our center hole instead of buying a new one.
     
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  4. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead trance-form

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    Well my VROD has landed and I'm really digging it. I went right to 635 for my maiden voyage and that was about spot on. I gotta go find something to dab on to try the Halo, wasn't even expecting it to show up today! I'm using the regular 14mm male body, not the stubby nor the Adjustabowl. ABV was pretty much as described, a darker ring on the outside, really not that bad though at this temp. The slightly increased draw restriction over the SH is perfect for my taste. I have not used the carb cap yet, but with performance like this it's probably not gonna be something I use for flowers but I'll definitely try it for science. Flower vapor does seem smoother than the SH to me initially. Not sure if that's just the temp drop or not. Love the look of this head with the two pieces, it's a really trick design. More later :leaf:
     
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  5. JCat

    JCat Well-Known Member Accessory Maker

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    @newvape918 ... one other thought for the vrod ... you could actually have a different head for it that converted it to a showerhead ... essentially just a "dish/nut/coil cover" ... the 19 holes in the vrod would then just be open to the top (this would leave you with a Ti dish though so obviously not for dabbing ... but converts the vrod into an equivalent to the showerhead for flower ...) ... just a thought ... not sure if this is really worthwhile at all if the above 19 to 18 hole bridges the gap for the most part ...
     
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  6. Zangano Cruel

    Zangano Cruel Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree!!! And 2 bowls, one for each!!!
    Stay vaped...
     
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  7. DonnieG

    DonnieG Member

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    Does everyones Vrod seem larger than the SH (meaning additional space inside heating cup which allows wiggle on the post and the bowl).

    My Vrod has a lot of extra play that i can wiggle it on the post or bowl. And because of that space it "ALWAYS" gets stuck on the post and the bowl? My Showerhead was super tight fit. This Vrod has more gap.

    Does this happen to everyone? Does this sound right?
     
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  8. wall

    wall Well-Known Member

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    You aren’t wrong, mine sticks so I’m going to the TI post, it’s bigger forsure but it’s not an issue for me as long as the TI post takes care of the sticking
     
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  9. emmdeemo

    emmdeemo I am being the five years old.

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    VROD SHIPPED!

    ARGH!
     
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  10. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead trance-form

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    Mine fits great, maybe even a little more snug than the Showerhead
     
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  11. Likes2vape

    Likes2vape Well-Known Member

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    Looks awesome. I wonder if leaving a post or cone in the middle spot would help break up the airflow and evenly distribute it better.

    My vrod sticks mainly on heat up and sometimes afterwards to the post but never gets stuck to the bowl.
     
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  12. wall

    wall Well-Known Member

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    Well that’s interesting, again not that I’m worried about mine being a bit more loose but i just figured that’s the way these ones were
     
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  13. WAM90

    WAM90 Well-Known Member

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    If we can get the VROD performing as well or better than the SH for flower, I'll be picking one up ASAP.
     
  14. wall

    wall Well-Known Member

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    Honestly I wouldn’t worry, I like my VROD but there is nothing wrong with the showerhead
     
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  15. steama

    steama Well-Known Member

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    I have been liking the VROD by slowing my draw with flowers and I have dropped my temp about 100F and getting nice thick clouds with flower.

    About removing the center hole. This just came to mind and I am sure that when New Vape tests things out Edwyn will find the best solution for the VROD. Not often does one get a hole-in-one (so to speak). I noticed with the center hole plugged still I could 'overwhelm' the fix if my draw was hard enough, but my natural draw isn't that hard.

    People have ideas because ideas are shared, but in the end, the solutions are almost always hands on.

    :2c:
     
  16. biohacker

    biohacker fully melted

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    Just my :2c: but I think NV should have sent you a prototype, as well as a few other savvy SH/SiC fans, so growing pains could have been minimized or avoided altogether. The feedback would have been extremely valuable to NV... we're only talking letting a few out into the wild before retail sales. However since NV is so rad, it's quite possible that a revision will be discounted for previous Vrod customers.

    I still think it's absolutely incredible that the Vrod requires a slower draw than the SH! WOW! Sounds like some airflow restriction/hemp fibe, more water, etc. could make the difference, like it did for some with the SH.
     
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  17. graydeh1

    graydeh1 Double deckin'

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    @newvape918
    Its great your pro active in making your line better, it seems you're not super interested in marketing ploys but more interested in getting the great technology into people's hands and of course it's going to hurt a little bit sometimes ,but I would prefer this way of doing business good on you.

    But as mentioned it would be awesome if you could come up with a solution for current v-rod owners if any revisions are made.

    All di best and I love my v-rod!
     
  18. newvape918

    newvape918 Company Rep

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    Ed's wheels are always turning so I am certain there will be although I dont really have any details right now. Ed's main focus is on quality as we all probably know. This is really the only platform in which these things are shared because this forum is of great value to us.

    It is difficult to say one product is going to be the solution for everyone bc everyone is different, but the beauty of it is in getting it closer and closer. As they say, its about the journey...and you guys are an important part of that...

    Published a new article on our experience at the 2018 NorCal Cannabis Cup if anyone is interested. Little video to go with it.

    Fire away with some comments!

    CANNABIS CUP BLOG ENTRY
     
  19. DonnieG

    DonnieG Member

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    DISCLAIMER: I appreciate NewVape and the Flowerpot Vaporizer, however, just providing my honest opinion. NV an innovative company and therefore have extreme pressures. I understand the design and development process associated with products, as I have a MBA and own a retail business.


    This is my personal problem (which isn't a huge deal until you scale it up to more customers...):

    1) First I contacted NV about SH stock replenishment. I received a reply they would soon restock. No mention of Vrod.
    2) ordered SH kit :)
    3) 3 days later Vrod releases. Ok pay $$$ with discount for new-new version which should be better:\
    4) Vrod arrives. it sticks EVERY TIME to post and bowl. Design causes uneven vape. But i had to buy to get discount before it expires. :|
    5) couple weeks from Vrod release and now new-new-new Version...must pay more $$$ w/ discount but this version should be better. Also, discount will expire:(

    From reading 400 pages of forum, I've seen this play out over the years with the FP. All innovative products go through a creative evolution during early stages. The concern is that you never want to make a customer feel a negative emotion

    I feel like, If you're going to release a new product, let people on waiting list for a huge investment know before you restock the old version (three days prior to new product release). And if you're going to make a new product it should be tested for design and function prior to launch. The last thing you want for a new customer is to ruin the enjoyment of the purchase. We all upgraded to the Vrod for improved performance and function, not to test the product in return for a discount (its not a discount if you pay 100% and then 50%). And the goal in a new product release should be the efficacy of the product (not sales, clearing inventory, or getting a product ready for a new event).

    Due to all this, Im back on the Showerhead.

    The reason for the switch back to the SH is simple, I'm demonstrating this product to several people a week. They are being introduced to NewVape and the Flowerpot by my recommendation. I demonstrate the function, and then they use the product. People were afraid of the Vrod because it sticks and they had to pull so much longer it was difficult for people with weaker draw capacity. Once one person got hurt, I'm back to the Showerhead that doesn't stick.

    Ultimately, new products are great and are the reason this company is going to be a dominator in the industry. They should be proud of their creations. My best recommendation is that some education on production release best practices would help for the future. And when you have a resource like the FC for product R/D & testing, don't use that as your direct mail sales list unless you trust your product with your market experts. If profit is your goal, a marketing campaign will provide more ROI than continuos product rollout. Best bet is to grow your customer base, not repeat customer sales. The value of something durable and well constructed is lost with high product roll over, and ultimately customers will lose interest. Properly timed releases with marketing/awareness campaigns can help create a desire for products with a manageable scope for retail purchasers.

    The reason I mention this is I like NV a lot and want it to succeed. This company will be expanding very fast over the next few years and I know they will do well. The hardest part about expanding a business isn't the sales, or the products, or the distribution, or the marketing... its simply making sure you don't lose sight of your customer experience and your original mission statement.

    Ok let the hate responses fly... I will have more positive posts in the future i promise.

    Piece be with you...:sherlock:
     
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  20. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead trance-form

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  21. steama

    steama Well-Known Member

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    New Vape is already a success.

    New Vape is a small shop and many of the things you mention tend to be inherent to small outfits. I know it is irritating that new items are released and improved without notice (and other things). I have a post earlier, way earlier, in this thread that pretty much mirrors what you are saying.

    New Vape has experienced explosive growth that they were not completely ready for and they have been trying to catch up with themselves ever since. These are growing pains and growing companies get over their growing pains in different ways.

    New Vape has offered discounts to items that were released and then improved after a short time on the market. I would rather have the improvements New Vape makes to products as early as possible even if I bought it within the month for example. Sometimes I feel a little pinch but I would much rather take the little pinch and get the new gear.

    New Vape also is making efforts beyond FC and the NorCal Cannabis Cup is a perfect example of New Vape starting to spread their marketing wings.

    New Vape is not perfect and because they are growing from a small shop to a sizable company they are not unaware of these growth struggles of which there will be many more.

    I have found New Vape to be very reasonable since I began doing business with them.

    :nod:
     
  22. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    @DonnieG you might be right regarding more and intense beta testing. There was the lack of sealing of the new HD bowls and now there seems to be a need for an improved air intake of the VRod and perhaps its sitting on the posts.
    But what I really don't understand is complaining about their way of new releases. You wanted the SH you got the SH. And I think the way of NV to offer a 50% discount on new releases for customers of the last month before release is pretty fair. After testing you have the choice to keep both or to sell the one you are liking less w/o any loss of money maybe even with a little profit.
    And who buys a new item without any testings/reviews on it has the risk to get a sub-optimal device. Period. So there is no reason for complaining IMO.

    EDIT: @NewVape919, thanks for your infos. But what's about the still open question about the coils for the VRods I'm asking now for the 3rd time like other customers did it a few times. Anyway which reply, a reply by you would be very appreciated.
     
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  23. Zangano Cruel

    Zangano Cruel Well-Known Member

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    I was really high when I liked @steama post jajajaja then I reread the thread jajajaja

    For herb & flower jajajaja
    That’s what good greens and a powerful vape from NV do to people...
    Stay vaped...

    400s...??? I really need to keep trying... I went all the way down to 450s but it was pooling too much in the SiC dish, even capping.
    I’m using homemade rosin, pressed from cold extracted BlackBerry Kush...
    Stay vaped...
     
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  24. biohacker

    biohacker fully melted

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    If you're getting too much pooling, your dab is too big for the temperature. Surely you will have multiple hits at this time, but the point is that vapour is still very well produced, and has some incredible taste - and effects (for my girl, I personally need the upper temps to FEEL it). Pooling has always been a function of dab size vs temperature for me, and a non-issue with SiC.
     
  25. wall

    wall Well-Known Member

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    Agreed with higher temps, I turned it down the other day and hardly felt anything
     
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