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Nausea: The Monster

Discussion in 'Medical Discussion' started by Vitolo, Oct 1, 2011.

  1. GenYHippie

    GenYHippie Well-Known Member

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    wow that's a lot of traveling! I hope to travel someday Sri Lanka is the big dream but Canada, Washington state, Oregon, and many many animal preserves and national parks too.

    My monster is tired today but not gone or asleep. Comes in waves between napping. Sticking with strawberry kough today since the last time I used Jack H my heart got very racy. I think Jack H is one I have to moderate more than others.
     
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  2. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    I am blessed.
    I feel so lucky for a number of things
    I am fortunate to have my wife as my life partner.
    I am blessed to have met you here on FC.. all of you guys that share this burden.
    Sometimes you Fuckers make me cry when I read about your day if it is bad... that makes me blessed too.. for I realize I have the support of community, that I never have met in person.
    I am lucky to have the monster in my life too.. because only now do I really appreciate my less "medically involved" days and therefore my memories feel to me very golden. I think some people do not treat their memories as though they are precious.
    I am lucky to have all sorts of vapes in my life. This gives me choice.... haha.. the illusion of freedom.
    I have freedom to choose which vape, that is. Free Will is a psychological slice of freedom, and so by small acts of free will ... like choosing between a half dozen vaporizers.. my psyche is fed a positive reinforcement..
    and my subconscious registers this perception of freedom.
    The end result of the choices that I do have being such joyous choices (IE: which vape to choose), is the end result that any fully healthy man/woman could want.
    That is good dreams!
    Yes...
    In spite of being disabled, and wrought with pain... and limited in how far I can go from my home...
    I have no nightmares of captivity, or restriction.
    Thank you FC friends..
    Knowing that others understand is a good thing.

    The monster, Nausea hath caused a bond.
    Bonded through illness? What nonsense this?
    For we mock so openly thou loathsome beast.
    No fear have we now of thy hideous kiss.
    Our mockery doth bring tearful release.


    Moving on....
    I love this friggin' Zephyr Ion.
    It is like a heat gun vape built into a solid brick wall!.
    I cut the 6 foot bag down to a more manageable size... 5 feet, 7 inches.
    Having the bag 5 inches longer than I am tall was tipping me over when I tried to stand.
    The physics is obvious.
    So my 6 foot bag is now exactly my height. 5 feet 7 inches.
    Now I can stand up and vape the thing without it damaging all the local flora and fauna.

    Did I use the 5 foot 7 inch bag this morning?
    You bet your shiny highknee ( [​IMG]) I did.
    Filled with Blue Dream too!
    I hope some of you feel as peaceful, or at least that you will soon.
    Have a great day all of you.
    Feel good and keep selves feeling well!:wave:
     
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  3. ataxian

    ataxian California

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    I'm so blessed to have friends on this site.
    Being handicapped has been very hard for me to accept.

    People I knew in my surfing life where are they?
    35 plus years in the Corporate World without a contact once my fate was discovered?
    The 1,000's of people I knew!
    Were they really friends?

    Like you @Vitolo I'm very lucky to have a good wife!

    Today the "MONSTER" KICKED MY a@@!
    Time to Wake & VAKE!


    "MONSTER" go away!

    My friends:
    Thanks for Listening!
     
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  4. Vicki

    Vicki The Bionic Woman

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    That's what happens when you get sick. :(
     
  5. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    When I arrived home from the rehab hopspital, it was 2 years after my accident/coma.
    A few visits from friends was all it took for me to learn a new way.
    I said to each as they visited... that it was time to move on and stop visiting me.
    To make it easy for them, I explained that I had new interests and that staying "visiting" buddies with them was holding me back from moving on.
    The truth was it was them that needed to move on.
    Too many times as I forgot a name, or stumbled I would see tears in an eye... and the words "Oh... Vito I am soo sorry..." They stung like the lash of a whip.
    Nothing for them to be sorry about.. It was me that was making them sad... I am sorry...
    As the old friends thinned out and stopped calling and coming over.. the self analysis, and comparitve thinking stopped.
    I stopped comparing the new me to the old one.
    Old Vito doesn't live here any longer.
    Good riddance to the old ways.. it was holding me back, from embracing and loving the new me.
     
  6. ataxian

    ataxian California

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    My GOD!

    You made me cry!

    Sorry!:cry:
     
  7. DDave

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    That was a very human thing to do! :clap: Very compassionate! :bowdown:

    I truly hope some friends stuck around, or re-friended you once MMJ let you be free!!!!

    .
     
  8. Vitolo

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    There were a couple that I wound up still in touch with...
    and there were a couple that wound up becoming patients within the community themselves for whatever reasons.
    The relationships are at any rate new, and are very much free of the restrictions of limited thinking, and comparison.
    Comparison becomes an enemy.

    Here is how I see it.....

    [​IMG]
    Bricks
    One brick at a time... one day at a time.. I build the new me.
    Spilling cement, desperately needed to patch the gaps I leave between the bricks.
    I catch what cement I can, and smooth it in.
    Yeah- my wall has leaks... yes the weather gets in, and I get chilled...
    But I built this ... it is mine. I will live in it.
    I wont compare this new shell, with the prefabricated ones I dwelled in before.
    I will stay here, and be happy here.
    This is mine...
    only mine
    Vito
     
  9. luckypucky

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    Saw a new GI doc that is one of the main ones of a prominent school where I live.. It's two months out from gallbladder surgery and with some fatty foods I still get alittle nausea after and it takes roughly two days to a week to get back on my feet when something knocks me out.. She thinks I have gastroparesis.. Tho mild currently.. She's going to wait four months see if I get worse because with my healing of my gall bladder the body takes 6 mos to adjust..(that would mess with results) She then wants to do a stomach emptying test. She straight out asked me (I am not in a legal state) when you get nausea do you use pot to get rid of it? I was kinda like did you just ask me this face.. I said yes.. She then proceeded to tell me with gastroparesis it can make it worse because of high cannanoid content can slow gastric motility and make me worse.. I then said to her but it is a high Sativa low cannanoid content that takes care of the nausea..(which remember I said I don't like indicas because it makes me feel bad and the body buzz just makes everything more pronounced.. I get it now I think why) Her reply was well there isn't enough research presently to vouch for that but I am just telling you since I don't want it to get worse and you end up on benzoyl.. I talked to her about non pill treatment she said the fodmaps will work for the IBS and gastroparesis that avioding fat is the main thing that's high in content.. She also wanted me to talk to a dietician.. I told her that I know that insurances don't cover that and I am currently a student.. Apparently gastroparesis is linked to both PPI use and damage to the vagus nerve (one of our cranial nerves) the wanderer as it is called since it has control over a lot of things in the body.. Thoughts? Anyone else hear of this? Was I correct in my posing the question of staying high Sativa content when I do get nausea I be ok you think? I've read some studies online and again nothing on Sativas only the high cannanoid strains (like those big pharm is trying to turn into Marinol and killing people with it)
     
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  10. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    Hell...
    I have heard this before.
    Doctors like to cover their asses.
    ...and whether subconscious or not.. they like to slam natural remedies as potentially harmful....
    harmful to their wallet!!
    yes they took an oath... I did say subconscious though.
    Now it is on you, lucky.
    You decide.
    do episodes on the long term seem worse, or as though your motility is slowed?
    if yes, lower consumption and judge if it speeds up.
    Bigger question..
    since I personally have never seen your monster.
    Is "it" big?
    Is your beast ugly?
    Is he debilitating?
    Now comes the part that requires thought...
    IF your motility is slowed, and it screws things up a little bit.. Is that little bit of "better" worth facing the monster full on when he does come?
    or I can paraphrase that backwards to be more clear.
    Is the help you get when the beast shows up.... the help from MJ.....
    is that soothing enough to risk the other possible side effects that your doctor suggests that she believes in?
    A Doc that is "One of the main ones" has much to risk, IF anyone knew that you confided your MJ use and she did not take the position she did. The walls have ears these days.... and people come back with law suits... even close patients . If she said "Oh that sounds good", it could come back to bite her.. and it is not legal.

    Decide, lucky.. decide on your own, if you feel ill....
    and the MJ scares your beast away....
    decide if you want the monster gone enough to follow a course of therapy that was not recommended.
    Narcotics slow motility,
    MJ does not constipate or slow motility to a degree of digestive detriment as far as I can feel.
    Talk to a Naturopathic Doctor that is tops in their field, and they may also not agree with the new GI Doc.

    Tough decision, luckypucky.
    Thoughts on this.. anyone?
     
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  11. Vicki

    Vicki The Bionic Woman

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    I listen to my doctor, and I even let her prescribe me Phenergan and other crap, but I don't always use it. I am in a bad situation being ill in a non-medical marijuana state. The best things I have found to help me are ginger root capsules, ginger ale, and cannabis.

    I was up at 4am, in a lot of pain and nauseated, yet again.
     
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  12. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    Sorry Vicki.. have a better day today~
     
  13. Vicki

    Vicki The Bionic Woman

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    You too Vitolo.
     
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  14. luckypucky

    luckypucky Covered in Peepaws

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    Thanks for the reply Vitolo, my monster pre surgery was huge.. But I never puked.. I always never had that as an option.. I would lay in bed for hours in the morning unable to face the day.. I feared all foods because nothing worked and everything made it stronger.. Post surgery it seems like he's lost some footing..he's small but every so week or so I see him trying to muster the bravery to try to pull me back down but unlike before I know how to handle him.. One hit of MFLB and he is gone.. My body actually feels like it gets better when I use the MJ and mainly Sativa dom strains as the nausea goes and the discomfort as well.. My healing time from oopes in my diet seems diminished as well or life is better said improved and I can function with it till things get better. I don't need much to get rid of him not like before.. Omg I was a vaping chimney before! I know docs have to cover their asses and my posing the question of the Sativa and she not saying no being open and just the usual "FYI" treatment it's only has me researching if anything about motility is on Sativa.. I think unless I am wrong that it feels like on Sativa it's faster? I honestly don't see the huge threat in using it.. And I stated NO pills sooo she respected that.. I am so done with that shit! The monster is smaller and it's only two and a Half months out from surgery so who is to say things won't get better in 4 mos? I will not out say she's wrong but I have a feeling unless there is enough research to back up your point it is just big pharm trying to stop people from healing themselves..thoughts? What else have they told you similarly Vitolo?
     
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  15. ataxian

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    I went to one of the most respected medical clinics in the USA.
    The head of research gave me PROZAC? I felt like killing myself after taking it? Cannabis is far more effective than PROZAC. Stomach cramps? ZANTAC? Made my cramps worse. TUM, ROLAIDS and so on did not work 10% as well as cannabis?
    I lost my faith in the medical community here in the states. ISRAEL is light years ahead of us.
     
  16. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    "They" do not at this time, and have not yet said a thing.
    I suffered countless odds and difficulties resulting from paralysis that affected my colon. I gained momentum on my own and did manage to get comfortable.
    Lower colon was removed.. and I had not discussed MJ.
    My healing was to be rough, and I remained at 119 pounds for a year, and began more heavily using MJ and combining medibles in the routine. I went to 136 and stayed there for two years. I increased my MJ consumption by about 30% over the next year. 8 Months ago I hit 151.. the weight I had been at for my entire life.
    The doctors to say the least have been pleased with my condition last couple of years. While I get sick daily, my weight is good, and my mood always pleasant.
    To date there has been no discussion with most Doctors concerning my MJ usage.. I do not want to frighten any of my care providers.
    My personal family physician has never said anything about it, when I confide in him that this is how I keep nausea at bay. He maintains eye contact and smiles, and says that he is pleased that I am feeling well. Topic closed.
    Anything that you divulge to Doctors that you do...
    that they recommend against.. (and they do search for things to recommend against.. things that you will likely not easily comply with) Can later on in your medical history become an "AHA!... I told the patient not to do this". I never give the doctors fuel.
    @Adobewan and I had a similar discussion not long ago... perhaps after a time he will notice this post and confirm as to whether or not he agrees.
     
  17. GenYHippie

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    I am going through the same gastroperesis stuff right now. Those are the tests that keep getting canceled so I have nothing to show for it yet. Though in personal experience im sure I have it to some degree. If I eat carrot with dinner I can still see some of it when I throw up in the AM over 12 hours later. Im glad your feeling better other than the fat issue :). Ive found Iberogast helps with motility but its a PITA to take 3 times a day, it just doesn't work well enough wit less for me and its slightly cost prohibitive ($30 a month at least.

    My 2 cents on diet with slow motility avoid fats or time them carefully. Also eat your protein in much smaller portions spread out across the day and keep up the enzymes. Its funny you mention the vagus nerve as I have other issues with it (some misalignment so I get heart issues when im extra constipated) so I wonder if that's part of my stomach stuff.


    I do the same Viki I let them yammer on write what they want, I may fill it may not and even if I fill it I don't ususally end up taking anything outside my regular. Im sorry you had a bad night. I was off to a rough start but a little jack h helped the nausea but it made my heart act up so im dizzy :(. If its not one thing its another but at least I got down some crackers that are staying down. Im terribly dehydrated from yesterday so I need to get the rest of my calories liquid.


    The not being able to puke is how I started out back in 08. Im really glad the MJ can beat him own now so you can get back to life. My new GP cracks me up ive only seen him twice but he mentioned getting a card on my first visit and wrote me for Marinol. Second visit he brought up MJ again and in less direct wording said he is ok with me using it.

    I don't tell docs right now they write me off to easy as it is I don't want "stoner" added to the reasons. Once theses long awaited tests are done im ok telling people. There are two new tests I don't want to get canceled entirely then im ok with being done with tests and scans. After that as long as I have someone to wrote me refills an do the B-12 I don't care what they think of me.

    Your PCP sound slike my new one just keeps a neutral expression and nods a lot lol. Havent told him yet but he has brought it up so if I tell any of them it would be him. Im with you on not giving them fuel to fight you.
     
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  18. Vicki

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    Thanks, I'm getting used to it. I'm sorry you were feeling badly too. I honestly can't remember the last time I had a good nights sleep. I'm always up sometime between 3am-5am, and it's hard for me to get back to sleep. I always keep Gatorade in the house too because I get dehydrated too.
     
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  19. GenYHippie

    GenYHippie Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the empathy Viki. I woke up a lot last night but im traveling so some of that is new environmental noise. Im sorry you have so much trouble sleeping as well. I find I wake less if ive had a moderate protein low fat snack a few hours before bed. If you can have low fat yogurt its a good choice.
     
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  20. grokit

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    Gatorade may be contributing to the problem, as high fructose corn syrup is very difficult to metabolize.

    [​IMG]
    Alacer (who makec emergen-c) has a product called electro-mix that is a much healthier alternative.

    Besides the fact that it is sweetened with tapioca instead of hfcs, from the most helpful review:

    "This is a do it yourself Gatorade. It is cheaper than Gatorade and has more Electrolytes than Gatorade. There are no artificial colors, dyes or preservatives in Alacer Electro Mix unlike in Gatorade."

    The article I cited in the first sentence of this posts mentions other alternatives.
     
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  21. GenYHippie

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    I will have to look into that. Traveling with a case of coconut water it a PITA and I cant find "my brand" everywhere. A lot of them are too pungent for me to deal with on top of nausea. I like them light and sweet. This would be nice to have then I cant find my beverage of choice
     
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  22. grokit

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    I prefer coconut water myself,
    but these packets would be great for traveling.

    What's your brand of coconut water?
    I fell in love with coco samba, have tried and like coco libre,
    and I picked up some coco vita from costco that I haven't tried yet.
     
  23. GenYHippie

    GenYHippie Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I took a look at the ingredients they don't disclose what their flavoring is made of or is free of so no go for me :(. My favorite brand is C20 but Amy & Brians Plain is my next favorite. For some reason the C20 short cans don't taste right so I get the big 17oz ones by the case. I didn't like coco libre, vita coco, or zico (except the chocolate one) the last 2 are the main brands you see mass market.
     
  24. grokit

    grokit power cosmic

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    Was the coco libre you tried the organic one?
     
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  25. GenYHippie

    GenYHippie Well-Known Member

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    I don't remember it was quite a while ago, the C20 goes on sale almost every other month so I stock up whenever I have the funds.
     
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