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My secret to THC E-Cig PG-Liquid... Potent, Effective, Cheap, Easy!!!

Discussion in 'Concentrates' started by airwave, Jun 7, 2012.

  1. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    I use CC, which I think is like Holy Terp: they both claim to be made from terpines. I put a few drops of EJMix (PG/PEG) to help maintain liquidity. I agree that EJMix has a weird mouth-feel, so I use about 3 to 6 drops per gram of concentrate and .3 ml CC. So far, it works for me.
     
  2. 420time

    420time Well-Known Member

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    does it cover up the smell much? or is it just taste is affected.
     
  3. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    To me, the taste of the concentrate comes through, albeit at a very concentrated dose. The odor it produces is noticeable, but not long lasting, at least as far as I can tell. It's not a problem for me so I don't really pay attention to odor. I'll take hits in theater settings, especially in matinees, with few attending. Concerts, too, especially when folks are busy clapping. Focus is on the stage. I'll exhale 1/4 hit one direction, take a breath, exhale a 1/4 hit another direction, re-breathe, etc.
     
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  4. 420time

    420time Well-Known Member

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    have you ever tried using .5ml per gram? that is what im going to try to do. since the concentrate is solid at room temp. also do you think it is worth getting more then 4ml? since the 4ml is 16$ and the 15ml is 57, the 30ml is 100.
     
  5. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    I've used .6 ml for 2 grams shatter. I find that terpine solutions perhaps, can evap a bit, so that's why I put a few drops of EJMix. If it thckens up in the cartridge, I might add a drop or 2 to the cartridge and heat with a hair dryer so that it is easy to combine.
     
  6. 420time

    420time Well-Known Member

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    would you compare your own mixture similar to the smell of the prepackaged vape carts at dispensary? or is it stronger smell. also when you mix your .6 with 2 grams how long does that last you?
     
  7. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    Yes, similar in smell, but no additional flavor/scent. Some store bought have fruity overtones.

    It lasts me quite a while, as I also enjoy vaping flowers. Additionally, newer portable concentrate "Keep It Simple, Stupid" (KISS) carts are getting sophisticated so that, say, a Yocan Cerum all-ceramic cart on a Box Mod running at 13 watts produces straight concentrate vapor that I find superior to diluted concentrate-in-a-cartimizer; more like a low-temp hit off a proper enail..
     
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  8. 420time

    420time Well-Known Member

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    i use the kiss alpha dual coils and enail usually, the ejuice is just for on the go.
     
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  9. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    I should add that none of my ingredients are "'flavored (eg, unflavored CC)". If there is a "neutral" choice, I prefer that.
     
  10. Milkman420

    Milkman420 New Member

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    Would these be ok to sell to friends? I have a lot of shatter and I'd like to use some to make some cartridges Was thinking off either pure clear or pure lemon. But have never tried any of the home made cartridges I noticed some of you said they have a bad taste or plastic taste but is it still bearable to smoke?
     
  11. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    Personally, I like mine, and they are firmly planted in "The Cycle of Stone" that exists in my life. Whether your product would be OK, I'd have to try maybe 5 or 6 cartridges, oh hell, make that a dozen and I'll get right back at you.
     
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  12. Milkman420

    Milkman420 New Member

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    Have you used holy terp? Since it was my first batch I figured I would stick to something affordable in case it doesn't work. I have cartridges that I buy locally but we are not a medical state. All the cartridges I have gotten at home have all been good to me so I figured making my own batch with some fire shatter couldn't be that bad
     
  13. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    I have not used Holy Terp. For all I know, it could be better. I have used CC, and I have been satisfied with their non-flavored variety over a few flavors in the sample pack: I ended up buying the next size up (Huge) of "G-rilla 13" that will probably last me the rest of my life. I like it.
     
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  14. Milkman420

    Milkman420 New Member

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    So you use .6 / 2gs of shatter ?
     
  15. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    That is one of their ratios: .6ml to 2 grams shatter. I notice on the (Huge) bottle of G-rilla, '.5 grams to 1 gram". If your concentrate has a lot of plant waxes and such, .5 ml is better for one gram. I mention above I usually add a few drops of EJMix, because it is some combo of PG/PEG, and helps keep liquidity in the CC/shatter solution. If I find my solution getting too thick due to evap or quicker consumption of terpines I will add a few drops of EJMix to the cartomiser, and heat up with a little hair dryer to help combine. But that's just the way I do it. Someone around here may have a different one. I'm an old dog, but I can learn new tricks.
     
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  16. notoriousLrg

    notoriousLrg Well-Known Member

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  17. Milkman420

    Milkman420 New Member

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    Just order some holy terp pure tangerine. Fingers crossed!
     
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  18. dannkk

    dannkk Well-Known Member

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    Does this process do anything to purge concentrates of butane?
     
  19. 420time

    420time Well-Known Member

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    it may purge it a little when your mixing it together since you need heat.
     
  20. Milkman420

    Milkman420 New Member

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    Well just mixed up my.first batch and some of the shatter is sticking to the bottom. Do I need to raise the heat?
     
  21. 420time

    420time Well-Known Member

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    just put it on hot water and use something to mix it together. Hot water should be under 200f, it should be fine in 5-10 minutes of mixing. Or you can just use a lighter and heat it up a few seconds at a time, when it bubbles stop and let it breathe a bit. Then repeat till it is mixed. When your done do a review of how it smells.
     
  22. Genki88

    Genki88 Active Member

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    150-165 f is a good temp.
     
  23. Clickz

    Clickz Active Member

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    I'm a bit new to this thread and want to make sure what I want to do will work. I can grab some pure whole plant matter hash oil and I want to mix that with some nicotine e-liquid I already purchase and use. Can I do this with the original method in the first post?

    I assume I can, but there's a lot of added information/recipes/additives that I see in the last 10 or so pages. Do I have to bother with these since my e-liquid is pre-made? I'd much rather just dilute/melt some hash oil into some e-liquid to make things easier.

    I realize some additives aren't needed and just bring a good flavor/smoothness. I want to know if I'd have added benefit of adding anything extra to my simple pre-made e-liquid + hash oil mix.
     
  24. Milkman420

    Milkman420 New Member

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    I assume your is a vg base which won't mix with the oil. In no expert but that's what I have gathered



     
  25. Clickz

    Clickz Active Member

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    I can get either. My main stuff is higher VG (~82%), but I have plenty of 80% and higher PG mixes as well. Is there a specific PG/VG ratio that blends better. I saw most people using pure PG.
     

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