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My secret to THC E-Cig PG-Liquid... Potent, Effective, Cheap, Easy!!!

Discussion in 'Concentrates' started by airwave, Jun 7, 2012.

  1. PurplE KronicS

    PurplE KronicS Well-Known Member

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    The cloudiness is from water most definitely! This happened to me when tried to rinse a syringe with a little residue of oil. Always clean with alcohol at least 2-3 times before rinsing with water. I suggest using a hot plate instead. And don't let the oil turn dark on you. As soon as the concentrate turn to a light golden caramel color you may want to remove it from the hot plate and continue stirring until you reach a homogeneous oily consistency! Perfection always took fine tuning of your technique, but after that learning curve, you will be 100% satisfied.

    I've been testing the Vaporesso ccell coils since my last comment and have learned that the sweet temp range is between 380-450 degrees F (195-230 degrees C). I hit it all the way to 450 degrees F with great results nonetheless.

    For me 420 degrees F (215 degrees C) is the sweet spot temperature for a mix of 0.6g of connoisseur concentrates (cc) with one gram of concentrate, using a Vaporesso Gemini sub ohm tank and Vaporesso ccell Ni200 coils. Love this feeling of discovering new ways to reach the sky with just a hit! So strong, vape with caution!

    Happy Vaping,
     
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  2. Prospector

    Prospector Member

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    Second beginner batch was a success (so far)!

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    .3G shatter w/ .6ML PEG 400 first, then .6ML PG. Immediately after I added each dilutent, I agitated the shot glass by hand (holding it with my fingertips and aggressively shaking it but making sure it didn't jump anywhere).

    I let each separate 'mix' sit for about 5-10 minutes in heat before returning and blending it more with a 2-setting Dremel on Low, which had an attachment that looked like the end of a metal screw - though careful not to make contact with the bottom of the glass.

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    After the intial 1.5ML blend was mixed well, I gauged its look and consistency and added a few more drops of PEG and PG and let it remain in heat.

    Returned after a little bit and blended that final mix on High now with the Dremel and got a nice, golden color with an olive oil like thickness. Definitely looks darker than the previous batch, but this had more shatter of a completely different strain and PEG 400.

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    Loaded it right into my cleaned Vaporesso tank and let sit for 10 minutes (using the .9 Kanthal coil). Came back, set it to Power mode, and vapor (duh cause the coil is still saturated)! I still have a few hits before I vape through the previous tank but it's kicking!
     
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  3. PurplE KronicS

    PurplE KronicS Well-Known Member

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    Nice... if you don't mind a low potency juice and the PEG aftertaste, thats definitely the way to go.
     
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  4. Prospector

    Prospector Member

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    And it's only going to get stronger (and tastier)!

    24 hours later and I'm not noticing any separating or change in color or viscosity.
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  5. Prospector

    Prospector Member

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    Anyone have suggestions for mixing containers that aren't shot glasses? Thinking a clear or amber glass vial might work better since it has a smaller base.
     
  6. Delirium_trigger

    Delirium_trigger Member

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  7. caro-line

    caro-line Member

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    Today I used not-that-good-quality-shatter to make eliquid. The ratio was something like ~0.65ml:1g.
    I'm using EJmix and flavour concentrate (7 drops of EJmix, and 4 of flavour). I'm using cartridges to vape my liquid, like @macbill.
    The point is my liqweed is very thick. It barely moving in syringe. I would like to thin it a little bit but I'm afraid of losing the potency.
    Is it safe to add like 3-4 drops of EJ straight to syringe and stir?
     
  8. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    I don't know why it would be unsafe. I add dilutants while encapsulated within a cartridge. I generally heat the cartridge a bit with a hair dryer to get the concentrate more "liquefied" so it's easier to mix. I do it all the time. I don't generally stir: when heated with the dryer, it's easy to combine.
     
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  9. darbydog

    darbydog New Member

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    I don't understand the complication with mix times, dremel tools, etc ..... maybe fun but totally unnecessary. You can dump it all together in a glass in a water bath and hand mix sporadically for 5 min or so with a dab tool on and off heat and it is perfectly blended.

    For mixes, I have come to love holy terp's "Pure" product (google it) as a mixer / additive. It adds a perfect blend of really tasty terps that brings the whole thing together. I have mixed 1g with only 0.3 or 0.4 ml of their pure terp only and it is like taking dab hits - excellent. Usually I mix 1g of product, with .3ml of pure terp and .4 or so of some flavorless PEG blend (vapeur extract or ej mix - the first one is my favorite).
     
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  10. Delirium_trigger

    Delirium_trigger Member

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    I myself have been using HT's Pure line with great reviews. I've gone through original and strawberry. I have a vial of tangerine and blueberry sitting in the cabinet for the next batches.

    I have 2 cartridges I fill up for people. A CE3 style cartridge with a 1:4 mixture [1g : .5ml Pure : 3.5ml HT blend]. Nice flavor, not too harsh on the throat, and good effect despite only being 20% oil.

    Then I have an o.pen style cartridge with a 1:1 mixture [1g : .5ml Pure : .5ml HT blend]. These taste really good and aren't badoing on the throat but I'm not particularly impressed with the actual performance personally. I seem to more readily get high with the other style cartridge.

    Pictures are hard....

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  11. zebra

    zebra Vaper

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    I much prefer the O.pen stlye cartridges to the CE3, but i can tell you they vary WILDLY in consistency from retailer to retailer. My guess is more than half of the "o.pen" style carts are actually knockoffs from a completely different manufacturer with much lower standards. I can off channel you some links to where I think you can find superior empty O.pen style carts but I warn they get a bit expensive. Nothing crazy but more like 4-5 bucks per empty cart then the 1-2 dollars you can find them at (which inevitably turn out to be shit).
     
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  12. leaddy

    leaddy New Member

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    Have you ever purchased carts from manufacturer in China?
     
  13. caro-line

    caro-line Member

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    I don't remember where, but somwhere on this forum, somebody posted about cones to regular oil cartridges. Something like this: http://www.downundervapers.com/products/bud-atomizer-cones
    I just wonder if I can find those cones for 0.5ml cartridges.
    And if yes, does anyone know where I can get them from? It can be even chinese manufacturers from dhgate/alibaba/whatever.

    Cheers!
     
  14. Prospector

    Prospector Member

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    OK. These flavor concentrates, where exactly do you find them and what are they advertised as? Simply 'flavor concentrates'? I see 'Holy Terps Pure' is the only thing I would need to flavor my blends if I already have PG, PEG400, and concentrate.

    Is Holy Terps Pure line different from other advertised 'flavor concentrates' you might find searching Google?
     
  15. GuyLeDuche

    GuyLeDuche ^ "Eat a bag of Dick's!"

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    I flavor with LorAnn's Candy flavoring (from ebay), about 2-3 drops per ml of final mix. It does thin the oil somewhat, but that's fine by me as I can use less EJ. I also don't get the elaborate warming rituals lol, I toss my measured EJ in an old BHO container and heat it in the microwave for 10s, then drop the oil in. Usually that's enough, but if not 5s more with the oil in will get it ready to stir with the syringe. I like to pull it up with the syringe and empty it back into the container a few times as a final mixing step.
     
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  16. Prospector

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    Great! I've been wondering if I should keep trying to use VG and hope for no or little separation. So Holy Terps Pure or Extract Consultants Tastebudds aren't the only products on the market that offer this type of concentrated flavor? That's what I was hoping for.
     
  17. Blow Jogen

    Blow Jogen New Member

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    Wow lots of info here, thanks everyone for sharing. I read though about 35 pages and didn't see anyone mention a company called Farm to Vape. I used this product a bunch of times with great results, except for taste which it is definitely lacking. Recently I heard about CC and just gave it a try.

    The farm to vape instructions are simple and easy. After a few trials I found mixing 2.5 ml to 1 gram of shatter or wax worked best. Anything less then 2.5ml I would start seeing globs of extract sticking to the sides of my cartridge. I could either fill four .5 carts or one .5 cart and my kangertech emow that holds 2.8 ml.

    Since I've always had success with the farm to vape method I tried this method with the CC. One gram shatter plus .6 bubble gum CC in the dropper that came with the FTV kit. Instead of boiling for 3 minutes I just stood the dropper upright in a shallow pot with boiling water for about a minute. It mixed well, liquified and didn't separate whatsoever.

    So I fill my emow, with what looks like a little over 1ml liquid. (I had a feeling my CC mix would yield a lot less compared to the FTV since I was mixing .6 ml vs 2.5 ml) I connect my battery, attempt to hit it, and.. Nothing!! I have no idea what's up. I carefully change the coil, try again, and nothing again. Could the mix be to thin? Too thick? It looks just like all my other previous mixes that worked just fine in my emow.

    Thinking I may have just wasted a gram of shatter, I take what I can out of the emow and fill two .5 carts. I screw one onto my battery, take a hit, and.. wow it hits like a champ and tastes great! Anyone have any idea what's up with the emow? Why I couldn't draw any vapor through it? It obviously wasn't the battery.

    So I'm a little torn between these two products. The FTV yielded twice as much liquid then the CC did, but the CC tastes way better. Also, I could hit the carts mixed with FTV inside the house undetected, but as soon as I tried out the cart mixed with CC my wife walked in and said the house smells like bubble gum and weed
     
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  18. abhishek

    abhishek Well-Known Member

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    Hello everyone
    Can QWISO be used as a concentrate and be made into a e cig liquid if you have only PG available?
     
  19. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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    You need something to liquify the THC-A oil so that it combines and homogenizes: my understanding is that PG alone can't do this, nor would you want to leave part of the ISO to remain for liquidity sake: it's bad to inhale.
    I use CC mostly (.6 gr for 2 grams concentrate), but I add a bit of PG/PEG mixture, eg EJmix, or PuffMagic, plus a drop or 2 of PG.

    It produces a very strong concentrate mixture I use in various ecig-like setups.
     
  20. Midnight Toker

    Midnight Toker That is not a drug, it’s a leaf.....

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    For anybody on the fence about purchasing Connoisseur Concentrates (CC), they have a TODAY ONLY 25% off code - BIGJOHN (a guy named John Winters recently had heart surgery so 100% of sales go to him). It's on their home page.

    It took a sale like this to get me to finally give them a try. I got 10 samples - $52.50, instead of $70. Just wanted to share. :tup:
     
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  21. abhishek

    abhishek Well-Known Member

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    I am in India and everything is illegal here so getting some good concentrate is next to impossible..only thing I can make is QWISO,and as you said I can't make e juice with QWISO ,having a vape pen filled with some thc juice will remain a dream
     
  22. Eatrocks

    Eatrocks Well-Known Member

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    Got 'the clear' carts...around 92% but they extract the natural terps and put terps from oranges in wtf. Its like socialism. Feels like u smoked an edible after a hit, that kinda buzz since no terps getting consumed. Super thick like honey.

    Good trick for anyone using carts is to make sure the mouthpiece has an airtight seal, i taped it and started getting waay better hits
     
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  23. Westcoastclarke

    Westcoastclarke New Member

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    This thread helped get me to where I am, I thought I would share my experience.

    My cousin has made qwiso regularly for the last 20 years. Typically it's spread on a paper and rolled, sometimes dabs. When I found this thread I bought a subtank mini, and a 30w I stick from fast tech. I also got 100ml of pg and 5 5ml dripper bottles.

    I filled the dripper bottles with 4.5 ml of pg, and had my cousin add about a gram of his oil to each. The blob of oil barely dissolved, but I just continued to hold the first bottle in my hand and the heat plus shaking was enough to completely dissolve the oil. It has not come out of solution. The others I let sit until I was ready for them and while the blobs broke up, there was a heavy concentration on top, and lighter on the bottom. Agitation fixed that and it has not separated.

    In my new tank, I used the rba, and primed the cotton wick with spearmint e liquid. Then I filled the tank with my mix, and after a few puffs cloud production was down, and that familiar feeling an oil hit leaves in your chest was present.

    Holy- this thing works! I went through three bottles over the next month, and only just started getting a burnt taste. The coil was hunker bad, and after a clean, and fresh cotton, this thing is better then ever!

    The cotton really holds the flavour, people were commenting on the mint flavour when I let them try even just days before I changed the cotton. With the tank refreshed, it's minty goodness, with a nice oil hit!!

    I had some regular dabbers compete with each other to see who could pull the longest hit, after a few minutes of them trying, they were all wrecked like lightweights! They could not believe it and now everyone wants one!

    I get that people are very passionate about there methods and cost is no concern. I got all my supplies from fast tech, had a great experience, and used free oil that has always been available to me. I get that my situation is not ideal for some, but man! I have had this thing out at crowded beaches during the fireworks, water slides with my kids, everywhere and I just chill with the smokers and get medicated!

    This thing works so well, no issues, I can't wait to try some shatter and see what happens! My understanding is butane oil will not dissolve into pg the way qwiso does, so Tex lab supplies for some peg it is!

    Thank You to all the contributors here!!!!
     
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  24. Milkman420

    Milkman420 New Member

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    So do we ever come up with a consensus top 5? I have got some shatter and plan on making a batch. Just wondered what you guys prefer? Also what kind of tank do you recommend I am just using this on a little small 510 battery. Looking for something disposable but also something that is sturdy and will last
     
  25. 420time

    420time Well-Known Member

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    has anyone tried using .3 ml ejmix, with 1g concentrate and .2ml or so of the Pure-Blueberry from Holy Terps? or would it be better to just use the Pure-blueberry with concentrate only? does this really cover up the smell? since i live in a illegal state, i'm rather worried. I have only used ejmix for the past 2 years or so.... and the ejmix seems to always have a weird taste to it.
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2016

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