More diffusion, less, or none at all?

Discussion in 'Glass' started by VaporEyes, Feb 24, 2013.

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To percolate or not to percolate? That is the question....

This poll will close on Feb 24, 2014 at 2:15 PM.
Give me dem bubble stacks! 16 vote(s) 29.1%
Like a fine wine, vapor, air, and water must come together in perfect unison. 28 vote(s) 50.9%
Water ain't coming between me and my vapor. 0 vote(s) 0.0%
I'm down for whatever. 11 vote(s) 20.0%
  1. VaporEyes Afflicted with VAS and GAS.

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    A lot of the glass we purchase have percolation involved within them. For vapor, is more diffusion better or is less better? Perhaps none at all even. What do you think?
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  2. shredhead Specialist

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    its all preference IMO. If you want flavor then you go with a less diffused piece. If you want a more smooth hit then more diffusion is required. i have pieces for both scenarios and in between. Thats the point in having different pieces and percs.
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  3. Kief Medicated

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    It's all about your individual needs and preferences. My lungs would dry out if I wasn't stacking bubbles, but not everyone has that problem.
  4. VaporEyes Afflicted with VAS and GAS.

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    My only concern is whether or not actives are lost in those that use more diffusion. I think this has been debated before.
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  5. that herb guy Active Member

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    THC on it's own is supposed to have a ridiculously low absorbtion rate into water. Something like half a percent, if you trust Wiki sources LOL. I don't believe that more diffusion/perc weakens the hit potency, just mostly a taste and temperature issue.

    I prefer a smaller amount of diffusion when vaping. Maybe a single showerhead or tree perc. I like to be able to taste the flower.
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  6. dannkk Active Member

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    I hit mine dry if I have really good oils. Only put water in when they make me cough dry. Imo, you only need that diffusion if the oil was made with bad product or it's not purged correctly. Stuff that was a lot more prevalent when this stuff was just getting started. Now you see a lot more people using low diffusion/low volume pieces like the beer glass bubblers or worm's diffusion pump(normal size bub, but the whole thing is filled with water). I'm on the lookout for something like this. Just have a lev lattice bubbler, which is fucking awesome, but I like it for combusting more than vaping. With oil I like my friends smaller pieces a lot better.
  7. Bon Dog Active Member

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    well the water wont absorb it, however the more diffusion the more reclaim buildup. this, in theory, will weaken hits but in my experience the amount of reclaim is not significant (ie i have never noticed a difference)
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  8. Tstat Dead Foot Designs

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    Bubbles are fun.
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  9. Bon Dog Active Member

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    agreed! :cheers:
  10. Nosferatu Well-Known Member

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    Medium diffusion. I find that something like a Matrix perc is too much for vapor. It cuts the hit up so much it has barely any taste or texture left. I like it about medium to low, I usually explain this to friends as "the vaporizer is the diffuser, so all that crazy stuff is no longer necessary."
  11. Quetzalcoatl drop beats and bhombs

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    I like my little piece because I can somewhat control diffusion levels with more/less water (since it's an inline) but usually I'll keep it low. I don't like too much water unless what I'm vaping is harsh. Just enough to cool it down but not change the flavor.
  12. way2 Sky High!!

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    I like a bigger piece with low to mid diffusion and not too much water most of the time. However I do like to change it up now and then.....I think this is all personal preference and I'm happy with having lots of options these days! We've come a long way...:science:
  13. Tweak Vape tender

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    :smug:, yus
  14. t-dub Vapor Sloth

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    Same here. I break diffusion into 3 "gears" so to speak. 1st is low diffusion, short fluid fill like a showercap. 2nd is medium diffusion like a nice showerdome or tree. 3rd is high like a fritted disc or double or triple chambered affair etc . . . I like the modular design of the Devastator since I can have 1,2, or 3 diffusion chambers. I use it in the stock config most of the time and if I wish to have less I can take off the ash catcher or switch to a HydraTube. Given a choice I won't finish an ELB with a low diffusion piece. I like to sample with the showercap, if I am going to, then finish with the Devastator. Vapor, imho, needs less diffusion than smoke, and a shorter fill on the fluid, and generally I think more diffusion equals less flavor. The debate continues about the condensation of actives, but if you want to know what that diffusion is taking out of your experience, just drink the water after you vape through it and you will get the idea.

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    VapeXhale Devastator:nod:
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  15. VaporEyes Afflicted with VAS and GAS.

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    My latest acquisition.

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    This will be the most diffused piece I have ever owned so I'm anxious to see how it effects the vapor.
  16. VaporEyes Afflicted with VAS and GAS.

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    Also got this coming in now which will be my least diffused pipe.

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  17. Bon Dog Active Member

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    i was actually thinking about this piece today. are u vapeing with it?. i bet the reclaim is crazy from the spiral smoke effect.
  18. VaporEyes Afflicted with VAS and GAS.

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    I will be vaping with it once it's in my hands. Estimated delivery is March 5 so I'll update you on how well it performs.
  19. Bon Dog Active Member

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    its funny what you get baked and think about lol. im quite curious about the results, what vape?
  20. VaporEyes Afflicted with VAS and GAS.

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    I'll try my minivap, vapro, LSV, and GnOme out on it. Let's see how fried I get after all of that. :smug:
  21. VaporEyes Afflicted with VAS and GAS.

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    Add the cloud to that lineup too. I wonder how it'll look to have that helix mouthpiece on the cloud. I feel a storm a brewin'. :science:
  22. Bon Dog Active Member

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    i say vid!
  23. VaporEyes Afflicted with VAS and GAS.

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    I'll try but any video I've attempted thus far has been of the lowest quality.
  24. Bon Dog Active Member

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    thats fine as long as it shows the spiraling vapor lol
  25. djonkoman Well-Known Member

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    no experience with a lot of diffusion, I own a 250 ml ehle with diffused downstem and a 8 arm tree perc precooler+J-hook(precooler is 18 mm, ehle is 14 mm so can't be connected to eachother)
    I definatly want some diffusion, I don't really like my ehle without diffused downstem, but I do prefer to keep the waterlevel on the low side to decrease drag. that is also why I like diffusion, without diffusion it comes in gulps, while with diffusion and a low waterlevel I get a smooth, constant hit.
    taste is less important, since often I don't taste it at all(but if I do it's really delicious, if I realy want to go for taste I go for direct draw)

    and lately I also sometimes use the J-hook without the precooler atached, with an 18 mm WonG it becomes a nice sherlock-style glass stem for my UD, with a comfortabe mouthpiece
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