lol fair enough, but didn't the website also say mar. 2012 or late summer or something like that? I thought maybe they just changed it back to dec. lol I don't wanna go down this road, but vapexhale was no different after many, many attempted launches. Now, I know it's different because at least they had vids and a presence here, but it still sucked big time. You know that Vaporfection are reading this thread forsure, and not posting, so that turns me right off, but damn if it ever IS released, it could be one heck of a portable.