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Discussion in 'Vaporization Discussion' started by stressed, Nov 20, 2015.

  1. mccringleberry

    mccringleberry Well-Known Member

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    Hell yeah, stepping down gradually is the way to go. I'm doing this whilst gradually increasing CBD flower consumption. I only spring for CBD that has 0.1%THC MAX verified by a lab- by itself, not enough to make me feel high. This has actually make stepping down enjoyable. I'm down to blending 0.02 of THC flower with anywhere from 0.02-0.05 of CBD and it feels great.
    Consuming too much THC herb has become a lose-lose - it's wasteful and it brings up paranoia anxiety and foggy headed laziness. I'm to the point where I don't consume THC flower by itself at all anymore. The high has too many of the negative characteristics. But stick a bunch of CBD flower in with it and control your ratio and it's a whole nother animal.
     
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  2. joner

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    I believe @fuby is referring to just lining one rimmed basket, and placing another rimmed basket inside (think stacking two ball caps together to put in a closet). The essentially "sandwches" the small load and keeps it in place/not flying about.

    FWIW, I've never had much luck with it (Never tried extensively tho), couldn't get any visible vapor, but I may have had my temps too low. I find higher temps critical to microdosing very small amounts (i differentiate this kind of microdosing, as it is somewhat subjective, and one may find 0.1g to be a microdose - which is a full rimmed screen).
     
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  3. Mushroomturtle

    Mushroomturtle Smokeless and alcohol-free

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    Hiya, there's also this to try (regular flat screen inside the rimmed basket screen). Could be fiddly but might be ok, haven't tried but like the idea:
    The Splinter by RBT
     
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  4. joner

    joner Active Member

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    I'll have a crack at this this evening once I get home.
     
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  5. Alexis

    Alexis Well-Known Member

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    You know I don't think I thought it through fully and clearly on this because I can't tolerate CBD in any form I have tried and I would not be able to use the CBD flowers available because of fertiliser allergies unless I was to produce my own sometime so I fairly considered CBD or giving it any thought.

    But what I am now recognising and thinking from reading your post- the reason we have these CBD flowers all over the place with such low percentage of THC is primarily and originally I think due to legal reasons and not intentional selection so much.

    The 0.2% THC cap, I always thought this was a shame because my understanding was that the THC is incredibly complementary to the CBD medicinally.

    With as we absolutely all know, no just or valid cause for outlawing THC in any country in the world and imposing such restrictions on CBD products.

    So I always felt that the assholes that make up the rules against us and our freedom had effectively reduced the potential effectiveness of CBD products in general.

    But then we have almost a culture emerging now where people are really appreciating the almost total lack of THC in the CBD flowers, as you gesture here yourself.

    So I figure it's not such a bad thing providing you can can get your THC from somewhere else if you feel the need for it.
     
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  6. mccringleberry

    mccringleberry Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry to hear about your condition that keeps you from using CBD. You said you've tried it in oil/concentrated form as well and its still a no-go, right?
    Yeah, I really just love the act of vaporizing bud. I love it more than I love getting high. So I have to use CBD bud if I want to vape to satisfaction since doing it with that much THC bud would wreck my life. And many people report a very subtle altered state that can't be called a high, but still gives a sense of relaxation. I can confirm this. It's subtle but it's nice.
     
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  7. MinnBobber

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    X2 on CBD effects

    It may not be psychoactive but I call it psycho-semi-active :sherlock:

    I do sort of say that reluctantly, for fear the feds will make it illegal again :(
     
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  8. chris 71

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    Hi there , i too use a lot of cbd bud still use low thc bud too but mostly cbd .

    Im just curious how do you measure such tiny amounts your talking 100ths of a gram right ? 0.02 would be 2 , 100ths of a gram right ?

    Thats like taking a gram of bud grinding it up , deviding the gram into 100 seperate piles and then using two of those tiny piles how do you messure this tiny amout ? I would think it soo small how would you even vape it ?

    A gram would last soo long . And you could basicly call your self a non user lol

    Not trying to call you out on this or anything but is this really right am i understanding this like .02 equaling 2 100ths of a gram ? Or am i miss understanding the math ?
     
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  9. Alexis

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    Hello mate. I can definitely relate to all of that I mean I don't vape for fun or for the sake of it myself because I'm kind of allergic to weed in all forms it's still the only drug I can tolerate just about and my depression is so deep and severe due to everything in my life and all-round condition and situation that cannabis has been very hard for me to abandon.

    So I vaporize primarily for effects. I have cut down a lot in recent times and my tolerance is much slower now which is a bonus. Largely because the crop we had this year is leagues above on potency particularly THC content.

    We have never produced weed with such a Potent psychoactive uplifting effect. So really although I'm consuming less I guess that on account of the higher tolerance it's kind of evened out and I've actually been considerably more medicated since harvest a few months ago.

    As soon as I Began vaporizing a few scraggly leafy buds which got taken off one of the plants 4 weeks before harvest, it was having a stronger effect on my mind whereby if I had an appointment in less than 1 hour after vaporizing I would be wishing I had a little over an hour so just collect my head lol.

    And it's been a couple of years since I have actually ever felt like I was really stoned and needed a little time to fix up before making a phone call or going to an appointment or something for example.

    One-time recently I had to visit the nearby hospital for an endoscopy on my doctors request and I got pretty vaped beforehand and was fairly off my head throughout the procedure which was pretty costly because I declined both the anaesthetic throat spray and sedative which is unusual but I didn't want any unnecessary toxins in my body and there were other personal complications where it was better I did not have those treatments.

    So I have cut down, but maybe not exaclt. Although I do think my tolerance is definitely lower and I am only using 0.2 to 0.3 grams some days, and getting more mileage.

    But for sure, THC is quite powerful and not always agreeable. It definitely spikes my anxiety if I have a little too much. I did actually consider growing some high CBD varieties next summer.

    I use edibles daily for Vital digestive support which we make by infusing coconut oil with buds and ABV separately. However I really wish at times that I could take the edibles for the digestive support without getting stoned especially on top of vaporizing when I don't want to add to my buzz I just need the digestive support.

    And yes @mccringleberry I cant take CBD oil or any such concentrated products without an immune response, not even one drop of CBD oil is tolerable or worthwhile with the suffering I have to go through respiratory wise, even though I'm not technically allergic to it and I do receive the all-round benefits from a supplement alongside the respiratory symptom aggravation.
     
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  10. cannabis.pro

    cannabis.pro OpenCannabis Advocate Accessory Maker

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    It is psychoactive. It is non-intoxicating.
     
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  11. MinnBobber

    MinnBobber Well-Known Member

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    the point was that CBD is deemed by feds and most current literature to not be psychoactive, that's why feds allowed it to be legal.
    Also, in almost all current articles on CBD, they state something like, THC is the psychoactive component while CBD is
    not psychoactive.

    It certainly is psychoactive, just don't tell this to the feds or it will be changed to an illegal status.
    The feds say that legal CBD must be derived from non-psychoactive plants, with less than 0.3% THC.

    It is just another one of those murky multi-definition semantic issues with the current state of cannabis.
    But, let's allow the feds to be mistaken on this one, as it falls in our favor (rare indeed).
     
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  12. Mushroomturtle

    Mushroomturtle Smokeless and alcohol-free

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    Hiya, yup 0.02g is my favourite load weight. It really is just crumbs, much less than most people leave behind on a surface after they've rolled a joint.
    Weighed out with .000 scales and vapes best for me in a small chamber e.g. Dynavap Ti tip on smallest setting.
     
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  13. chris 71

    chris 71 Well-Known Member

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    I use a dyna vape to with the smallest setting of the bowl i did weigh up a gram one time and count how many bowls i got i think it was about 20 .

    So 1gram devided by 20 = 0.05 so ya i guess that is 5 , 100ths of a gram .

    Its my favorite size bowl with my dyna vape actully .
    didnt really think of it like that 5 , 100ths of a gram sounds soo small .
    i definitely get effects of this size bowl even with what smokers would consider real week bud lol i huess im a really light weight even though i pretty much vape all day lol

    No wonder the mighty vape seems so powerfull to me with the size of the bowl no way i can comfortably do a full bowl in that beastie
     
  14. cannabis.pro

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    The feds have the patent on the plant and controlled the monopoly on growing it legally under federal law in the US until recently. You think they are ignorant on the pharmacology & pharmacokinetics?

    There you go, you said it! Any article worth its salt isn't going to claim non-psychoactivity. Seeing an author mention CBD as being psychoactive should be cause for concern over the remainder of the content as being naive to the industry at best.

    The ignorance needs to go away. It's happening as the feds are sending out (more) cease & desist letters to those making false claims around the plant/CBD. Truth in labeling lawsuits are coming to light.
     
  15. mccringleberry

    mccringleberry Well-Known Member

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    Lol that's exactly right. Someone on this forum did an in depth analysis awhile back and basically, 0.01 of ground bud covers up Lincoln's head on a penny. (Spread out, not piled up). He had a photo showing different amounts of bud next to different coins.
    I use my Vapcap digger-outer to scoop it into my Vapcap. 1 scoop is roughly 0.01. How convenient.
    As for how you vape it, you use the most efficient vaporizer ever made, a Vapcap. 0.02 by itself actually gets me 1 full hit using the Vapcap. The Fury2/Edge/One with a glass mouthpiece can pull it off too.
    You are right in that 0.02 doesn't make for a nice session, so I combine it with good CBD bud, the ratio can be whatever you want, and walaa, you've got a longer session with big clouds that gets you a head change without getting balls to the wall stoned.
    Theoretically that means 50 days per gram. I think my grams last about a month on average because sometimes I do "indulge" in more than 0.02 of THC flower.
     
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  16. CANtalk

    CANtalk Well-Known Member

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    Microdosing is going well here :peace:. Last time I posted in this thread about a potent experience when bumping up my microdosing amount a touch for an indulgent experience. I enjoyed it so much I did it for a few weeks.

    And after another weekly break I proceeded today to take a step down in amount again, going from the previously mentioned 1/4 in a session to 1/5. I can happily report it was really potent still :science:. More than enough... and a big experience. I know I'll be more than happy with 1/6 (or my old intake) again when I get to it (soon). Microdosing is working very well for me and the small step-downs maintain an impressive experience, very enjoyable and sustainable too. A highly recommended routine :peace::leaf:.
     
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  17. C No Ego

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    as people tend to ramp up their use maybe they will see your post and think hard on that type usage... like seeing CaNtalk big Eyed cat saying - you need to slow down ... micro that dose Bro
     

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