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Discussion in 'Vaporization Discussion' started by stressed, Nov 20, 2015.

  1. stressed

    stressed Well-Known Member

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    i always use the best quality i can buy.

    i love my omni for shatter. i can stretch .05 a long way.
     
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  2. fuby

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    Hello, i am down from 500mg to 200mg a day. I use the mighty. I really love this device. How ever when i try to heat 50mg it gets a bit inefficient imo. I use capsules, i use liquid pads. I even build some stuff out of screens. it just does not feel right to me at these low dosses.

    Is there someone that could suggest a vape device for very small doses? 50mg is a start for me. i want to go lower and lower.

    Does not matter if its portable or not. I do not like the idea of the vapcap. However if people really suggest it here i might give it a try.

    i love the idea of filtering it through water. never done it tho.

    Have a great day!
     
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  3. emmdeemo

    emmdeemo I am being the five years old.

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    NewVape Flowerpot, for sure.
     
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  4. FabulatorPoeta

    FabulatorPoeta Where has the time gone?

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    I micro dose. Dynavap VapCap and Healthy Rips Fury might be the answer for you, they are for me. IMO do not discard the VapCap: spontaniously it's the one I reach for. The M is affordable (and so is the Fury in its bracket) and you can use this offer to get free delivery this time around.
     
  5. howie105

    howie105 Well-Known Member

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    Take a look at the E-Nano it has a solid reputation as a small dose machine.

    You can use the E-Nano through water but for really small loads you have to get the right glass piece, perhaps a small volume, low diffusion piece is worth your consideration.

    I salute you for trying to get your Mighty to work the way you want, you really never know what you can pull off unless you try. I am currently using an old Da Buddha with some third party glass (DDave) to roast .013g loads. Good Luck
     
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  6. AJS

    AJS Calm Consistency

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    I use the Milaana/Splinter with a 14mm reducer and 14mm basket screen and can use about .02.

    The E Nano will not let you down for hits < .05
     
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  7. fuby

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    Thanks everyone so far! I have so great information to search upon. One quick questio for ppl living in Europe. Any suggestion on where to order the nano? If i decide to buy it ofc.

    Byeeeeee
     
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  8. Doktor Dub

    Doktor Dub Well-Known Member

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    The Vapman is also a great device for (very) small doses. While many Vapes can do small doses, with the VM it feels very natural (for me).
    While the Flowerpot can do small doses very good and even better when useing a Basketscreen, it s always tempting to put more in it.

    All of this is highly subjective and only my own :2c:
     
  9. howie105

    howie105 Well-Known Member

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    Go right to EpicVape and talk to them about an order, make sure you let them know your location upfront. They are used to dealing with import fees and such. Good Luck
     
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  10. AJS

    AJS Calm Consistency

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    Oh yeah, I also agree with vapman.

    The vapman may be hands down the best microdosing vaping. Once you get good with the torch too it's just such a kickass vape. Won't give that lung pounding hit a lot of people crave, but if you just want delivery of your meds in the most efficient form possible, the Vapman is the way to go in my opinion.
     
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  11. Egzoset

    Egzoset Vaporist of Borg

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    Salutations Fuby,

    Too bad i didn't read this earlier! M'well, the VapCap is fine in its own "niche" but even when induction-driven it's still getting too hot where it shouldn't, i believe.

    Personally i consider that power wasting ain't really coherent with "Micro-Dosing", yet there's a paradoxal situation where the shorter but denser heat pulse will make a most beneficial difference handling 20 ~ 25 mg bowls, yet remaining focussed on the appreciation of aroma/taste. Using the Arizer V-Tower or HerbalAire i recall i required ~300 mg bowls simply for a promise of some decent reward for my aerial senses, performing inhalation which also depended on my level of operator skills... One of my many problems with such popular table devices is that they all belong to what i came to tag as "Hot Dry Air Ovenizers", because their function is to thermalize a bowl inside an oven over long minutes, e.g. "bake" it at least to some degree. The bright side is getting the noble molecules extensively activated, as a trade-off though it's costing the baking action and its consequences.

    What if i told you the process can be made dynamic instead of static, so the noble molecules are released at the cost of little baking at all? I called this "Micro-Bursting" as it's intuitively related to "Micro-Dosing", because it's possible to generate tokes on a "per-demand" basis with very limited baking before and after the cannabic "burst". A DynaVap VC stays too hot for too long to make it an appropriate candidate for your announced task; i don't want to sound critical of it nor the rest - quite naturally, function commands shape i conclude.

    Hence think "1-Hitter", direct and fast, really fast... And lightweight, just because:

    The "Shortest Path of Least Transformation" would be my recommended strategy. Consider using that as a selection criteria and good luck on your fine quest.

    :cool:

    Good day, have fun!! :peace:
     
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  12. beyond6strings

    beyond6strings Just another traveller in the Dynaverse

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    I've found that the Vaponic is also quite good for micro-dosing. It takes some technique, but the flavors are amazing, and it packs a bigger punch than one might expect.
     
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  13. passenger

    passenger did they get you to trade your heroes for ghosts?

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    I can vouch for both Vapman and Dynavap Vapcap as being perfect for microdosing. I do it all the time. If you don't like flames, then there is also the Vapman Station as an option for heating the device. Dynavap will come out with their own induction heater, so both can be used flameless. Inbetween user @Pipes has got you covered with induction heaters. There are several options to connect a Dynavap to a water piece, the nicest is the OmniVong Vapcap. It's great, but you can have it for smaller coin with the same effect using the Dynavap "M" with the rubber mouthpiece (1€) to fit it in a 14mm female glass. The Vapman fits natural 14mm.
     
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  14. fuby

    fuby Member

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    You mean one that combusts?
     
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  15. Egzoset

    Egzoset Vaporist of Borg

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    Hi again Fuby,

    One other new expression i didn't evoke yet is "Packetization of the Heat Charge", which means in principle there's no energy left to over-heat and hence even less to cause combustion - though in analog manual mode gross operator errors (or abuse) still remains an option, with some voluntary effort. Here at home such incidents are extremely rare observing the appropriate ritual and i haven't started enjoying the "Bi-Energy" induction alternative so far; actually i just forgot to mention there's nothing on the market which is a ready-made solution by my own standards, so i suspect even the Vaponic (formerly VapBong) combined to my operator skills would make a sloppy "Micro-Bursting" tool in this context. YMMV if you got the lungs i guess.

    So...

    You'll know it's falling into the intended "Micro-Bursting" domain when you start observing a paradoxal behaviour which at least one other member seemed to experience:

    As i recall he didn't complain much about combustion neither.

    Good day, have fun!! :peace:
     
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  16. Ricardo

    Ricardo Well-Known Member

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    Hi y'all . I've gone from getting super high for ages on the smallest setting of the OmniVap which I believe is only 0.03g to needing at least 3 or 4 of those sessions.Guess I might as well readjust the screen. Looks like the good times are all gone. Well, obviously not - I'll just use more weed until I can work a T Break, basically when I take vacation in August
     
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  17. Egzoset

    Egzoset Vaporist of Borg

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    Salutations Ricardo,

    The thing is, who really wants 20 ~ 30 mg bowls when it implies frequent refills? Instead it seems to be that stirring of a larger bowl might seem more practical (or even a carousel??), while still trying to avoid wasting noble molecules in between tokes. For this i found most profitable to reverse the typical situation where a cannabic workload awaits inside my oven: these days i'm finally able to inject that "oven" inside my bowl instead, so to speak... What i mean is that there's no need to expose a full bowl to heat before and after inhalation; in music notation this would illustrate as minimal "attack" and "decay" periods, separated by solid vaporization (or flash-vaping?). Precision sizing of a heat "bubble" (e.g. "Packetization") remains to be evaluated in a "Micro-Bursting" context but it's already possible to try an analog/manual approximation of it, as i do everyday - which actually caused my consumption profile to shift in such a radical way that i've never needed to "T-Break" again, for years by the way...

    So, what's required is a method exploiting transitional properties of heat transfer speed vs contact-surface, one where the heat charge gets depleted before significant over-heating can occur, because "baking" hurts aroma/taste. As yet another bonus i also discovered i get to choose between riding my tolerance threshold and just aiming or a solid wall at supersonic speed and go blind... In comparison, a balloon for example, implied the "locomotive effect" which translated as not being able to leave it half-empty; as for the table models they felt tiresome/demanding in terms of the lungs path.

    My conclusion is that brief potent tokes generated in "Micro-Dosing" mode offer sufficient aroma/taste even in such small dosage and yet it didn't involve going short of breath while chasing a mirage, as when i used to end up leaving too much inside a machine, all too often...

    Honestly it's a true relief not having to work so hard for so little anymore, which to me is part of feeling "free" again. But that's me: YMMV, only duplication + peer-reviews of similar experimentation would tell i believe.

    Good day, have fun!! :peace:
     
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  18. Ricardo

    Ricardo Well-Known Member

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    So, vape less, vape often?
     
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  19. Egzoset

    Egzoset Vaporist of Borg

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    Hi again Ricardo,

    Considering the tool itself makes it possible to switch between Hybrid Cores as a function of a desired applications range (while its 2-cores scenario would extend heating in IH-driven mode even further...) i'd say the concept covers from gross "punch-in-the-face" bong-style abuse to "mithridatism", e.g.:


    « ...the practice of protecting oneself against a poison
    by gradually self-administering non-lethal amounts.
    »

    The hint i have in favour of "less but frequent" dosing is that i used to experience serious allergy-like symptoms a few years ago which are now mostly history. In any case there always are trade-offs. For example, at the moment i get an emerging impression which tends to confirm yet another probable feature: my "Shortest Path of Least Transformation" may happen to affect the THC to THCv ratio and actually promote anti-inflamatory properties from THCv...

    Anyway if "Micro-Dosing" is the goal then i must point out it was the Syqe dedicated thread that initially triggered my curiosity.

    Good day, have fun!! :peace:
     
  20. Ricardo

    Ricardo Well-Known Member

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    @Egzoset .... Dude, I appreciate the input but you lost me at music notation and "attack/delay. :tup:
     
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  21. Egzoset

    Egzoset Vaporist of Borg

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    M'yeah...
     
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  22. stressed

    stressed Well-Known Member

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    oddly enough, i just bought a mighty today. i read it doesn't do micro doses all that well but with the pod thing, it should be better. apparently not for you.

    i have an omni vapcap and the portside heater is great. i got a mini too for some reason or other. it's great for small doses. the heaters are for those of us who got tired of using the lighters.

    i have a herbalizer and i rarely use more than .05 per load. i usually use the bag but the whip is great too. i just wanted something new.


    i have got to stop buying stuff. :)
     
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  23. fuby

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    i did not know about the portside heater that makes to vapcap alot more interesting to me personally awsome!
     
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  24. ilsasta

    ilsasta Well-Known Member

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    It definitely does, in the process of making my own one and looking forward to try this alternative. I can't wait. :drool:
     
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  25. ronads

    ronads Well-Known Member

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    Started new meds, vaping weed made me have straight up panic attacks which is devastating. (On a regular dose)

    Tried a microdose...'literally fuck all' in the vapcap m with ti tip - Possibly 0.001 or less?

    I don't get a racing heart but can enjoy my green again after a long t break.

    Happy days. (Plus i've saved an inordinate amount of money! Win win!!)
     

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