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  1. ZC

    ZC Well-Known Member

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    If the cord ends up coming out the bottom you can still rest it on the side without rolling, the button would provide a natural stop.

    But it's possible the final model will have the outlet on the side like other logs, which would allow it to stand upright when not in use.
     
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  2. HD Springer

    HD Springer Well-Known Member

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    Im thinking and hoping that with the 2 party's working together then we will have very little stumbling blocks.
    I mean we have a proven heater from the Mi and then you add one of the very best log builders in the game adding his knowledge. I'm not sure you could draw up a better recipe for the success of this project. Only time will tell.
     
  3. Alan

    Alan Master JedHI Manufacturer

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    Thank you so much @RastaBuddhaTao for giving me the opportunity to work with you on this collaboration. Hope we can make something really special for everyone to enjoy. Looking forward to working @ZC and @KeroZen and everyone else on this project.

    I have been using a 10A DC/DC buck converter w/ digital display and a fake battery to power a Milaana with great success. I installed an input power socket so it can be fed by a 12v 10A power supply, but the output wires are still connected to the screw connections. I will be adding output connections which will allow it to connect to the Mi-Log and also to a fake battery for the Milaana. Audiophile type connectors should handle the amp requirements for the cable and look very nice. They are available in a variety of styles. Have found poly cloth covered twisted pair cable in almost any color or pattern imaginable. The combinations of cable and plug end are vast.

    Will keep everyone updated on the progress.
     
  4. turk

    turk turk

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    ....I'm sure we will experience a quality product...cheers guys.
     
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  5. Cl4ud3

    Cl4ud3 Well-Known Member

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    Put me down for one now :rockon:, that's such an awesome idea, maybe we can get a Zion fake battery connector too :brow:
     
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  6. arrr

    arrr Well-Known Member

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    Definitely interested in this. I really want to try the mi but it's out of my price range atm. I can swing $100 which would allow me to get /try an mi. Cant wait.
     
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  7. P.A.M.

    P.A.M. Vapo Rising

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    Posting to get the thread notifications for updates :) this should be a very interesting beast you guys are about to unleash ! nice to see fellow builders come together. vape on !
     
  8. jpdnkstr

    jpdnkstr Well-Known Member

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    I'm watching this one...
     
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  9. Diggy Smalls

    Diggy Smalls Daily Roaster

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    I'll be honest...I don't own a Milana and won't be getting to ever try one, so I was a little confused about this concept.

    I think I'm still a little confused, but at least I understand the concept of a manual log. It sounds interesting, but not for me. I have no issue leaving my logs on, and I am not very into a manual electric vape.

    It does sound cool though, and I'm excited to see where it goes. People are really trying to push the boundaries for a log vape this year!
     
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  10. Hagbard Celine

    Hagbard Celine Discordian anarchist

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    Sounds really interesting. Excited to keep hearing more about it!
     
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  11. DarkSm0ke

    DarkSm0ke Well-Known Member

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    Where do we sign up to get on the list? The project sounds and looks great! Can't wait, very excited!
     
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  12. RastaBuddhaTao

    RastaBuddhaTao Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    This project's value is in it's modularity. @Alan is working to develop new ways to physically adapt the Milaana heater tech to his design ways such as eliminating adhesive and accidental glass breakage in machined hardwood. The RBT logs will use the Milaana technology as designed to improve the volume position and to ensure a tested and proven design will hit the market. The RBT logs will use ADK river drift wood to add a splash of Mother Nature .... A literal log lol.

    Alan will lead the way investigating the list of potential cord sets. A US supply is preferred... With that said it's unlikely unless we standardize on a tried and true connector scheme that still has life in the states. We have decided on using a 12V 10 amp brick so that will drive the input connector. So the critical part of this is the connectors and cable leading between the Mi-log and the power supply. It needs to economical, reliable, rugged, supple, small and attractive. What is important to you customers? Any electrical engineers with any suggestions?

    As far as a power supply RBT plans to standardize on the Zion control system. This will again add to the RBT economies of scale and build off a proven reliable power electronics. It's small to... Just cut the top off the Zion and plug it in. It will also give the ability to run a 100 watt 22 mm monster desk top as well as a battery pack which lends I feels to future offerings.

    RBT's engagement in the project initially will be to supply HI the required parts and limited application guidance as Zion in now the focus. If all goes well the RBT Mi-log will come alive mid 2017... Until then my man Alan will be at the helm creating the first commercial Mi-logs.
     
  13. Hippie Dickie

    Hippie Dickie The Herbal Cube Manufacturer

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    i like the W.S.Deans ultra plugs:

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    they have gold contacts, a piece of spring steel to force the contacts together, wipes the contacts every time plugged together, polarized so it can't be plugged wrong, and can handle >50A of current.

    wide tip soldering iron (1/4") is best for easier soldering.

    i use the Deans Ultra Wire (16ga):

    They also make the Wet Noodle Wire:

    Female on the power supply, Male on the vape ... i recess it into my cube for cleaner appearance.

    Made in USA.
     
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  14. KeroZen

    KeroZen Chronic vapaholic

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    Deans connectors are good indeed, but they fell out of fashion these last years. I would recommend to use XT60 connectors instead for various reasons:

    - They are cheaper
    - They are easier to unplug
    - They are easier to solder
    - They can handle 60A continuously
    - They can accept down to 10ga wires (but 12ga fits better)
    - They are less prone to shorts when ripped off (somewhat)

    We can even get them in black now, which is better looking for our application. I know for sure that the ones from HK are genuine, here's the link >> https://hobbyking.com/en_us/black-xt60-male-and-female-5-pairs-bag.html

    They are all the rage currently in the RC world, and are the defacto standard now that most Li-Po packs come standard with them. It means they are cheap and widely available.

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    Banana plugs are good connectors but the risk of creating shorts when your stoned friend trips his feet on the cable ripping everything apart is too high. You can mitigate that by having one side all female and the other all male, but then you need to use heatshrink tubing on the female plugs, and it's not very good looking, doesn't age well and tends to leave a small gap (it's hard to make them perfectly fitted) So you need to have one wire shorter than the other, leading to something a bit goofy looking in the end...

    Now if you want really high-end connectors, we can continue looking and find something better.
     

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