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Mangoes-So I thought it was just an urban legend....

Discussion in 'Vaporization Discussion' started by deadheadbill, Oct 14, 2013.

  1. stressed

    stressed Active Member

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    i read about mangoes awhile ago and since I was a big fan of them anyway, it's a win win.

    I have a few every week when I can find them. I love me some green, tart mangoes.




    crap. now I want one and I'm too baked to drive.
     
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  2. 1337Dude

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    I remember being into the mango thing many many years ago when I first started smoking. I wasn't sure what to believe then, but I'm fairly certain it's a placebo now. Whatever a mango contains, I don't see there being enough of it to make a significant difference in how your body takes in the THC.
     
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  3. Vicki

    Vicki The Bionic Woman

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  4. aesthyrian

    aesthyrian Blaaaaah

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    Mangos contain myrcene which is a terpene or terpenoid, that can also be found in Cannabis. I do not know much about terpenes TBH, but I do know that there has been a lot of talk of terpenes working synergistically with cannabinoids so I would believe that the terpenes in mangos and even other fruits could help potentiate the effects of thc and other cannabinoids.

    This brings us back to the reality that no matter how high the levels of THC may be, you can still get a greater effect if mixed with other cannabinoids and terpenes. Soon someone will figure out the science and create a near perfect concentrate that extracts all the desirable terps and cannabinoids, and leaves behind the undesired waxes, lipids, and other plant matter.
     
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  5. CG420

    CG420 Visionary Vaporist

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    I did this research a few years back in college while smoking and then ingesting it before and after to find that I was either normal or higher than usual. To do this, I had eaten about one mango and then other times two or three before a sesh. For after, I can take up to two max. It makes me feel full a bit though mind you it was eaten as dessert/after a meal.
     
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  6. Vicki

    Vicki The Bionic Woman

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    I was just reading the ingredients, and noticed this: Indica???

    FULL INGREDIENTS

    Alcohol Denat. (Solvent/Diluent), Water (Solvent/Diluent), Glycerin (Humectant), Betaine (Hair Conditioning Agent), Acrylates/C10-30 Alkyl Acrylate Crosspolymer (Stabiliser/Viscosity Modifier), PEG-40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil (Emulsifier), Fragrance (Fragrance), Aminomethyl Propanol (pH Adjuster), Mangifera Indica (Mango) Juice (Natural Additive), Limonene (Fragrance Ingredient), Linalool (Fragrance Ingredient), Hexyl Cinnamal (Fragrance Ingredient), Butylphenyl Methylpropional (Fragrance Ingredient), Disodium EDTA (Chelating Agent), Anthemis Nobilis Flower Extract (Natural Additive), Citronellol (Fragrance Ingredient), Benzyl Alcohol (Preservative), Potassium Sorbate (Preservative), Sodium Dehydroacetate (Preservative).
     
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  7. t-dub

    t-dub Vapor Sloth

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    This is right on the $$$. Hops also contain a lot of myrcene . . . :)
     
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  8. mrboote

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    Indica means "from India" any plant originating from the region will be classified as such.
     
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  9. 1337Dude

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    I'm aware of the talk regarding mango's, but I'm more aware of the underestimated placebo effect. Even if myrcene is found in mangos, there is no study proving that adding additional myrcene to your diet would have tangible effects on the ingestion of THC. For all we know, the synergy between them could be minimal and adding myrcene doesn't actually have a substantial effect on how one's brain takes in THC.

    There is no science to back it up either, just speculation from one of the least scientifically-minded communities on the internet, the pot-smoking community. Even if consuming myrcene boosted the effect of THC, the most likely scenario by far is that the boosts are negligible (<1% increase in THC ingestion).

    Let's get real - if myrcene actually had a real, significant effect on the ability for THC to pass into our brain - there would be myrcene supplements being sold precisely for this purpose. This mango-talk has been around for a *really* long time. If there was any scientific weight to it by now, it'd be far more substantiated than it is now.

    It's not even that hard to prove its effectiveness, but the following is the last way to prove it -
    That's the last way to do research - your results would have been completely tainted by placebo.

    Here's an example of how to actually scientifically test this without extracting myrcene and taking myrcene supplements - a double blind test.
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    1) Get someone who has been steadily consuming THC at the same daily rate for a prolonged period of time (any daily smoker/vaper).

    2) Make two fruit smoothies consisting of 5+ different fruits, one of the fruit smoothies must contain mangoes and the other must NOT. There should be enough fruit mixed in that they taste similar and there's no way of detecting a mango taste in the smoothie.

    3) Have the test subject consume one of the smoothies (not knowing which had mango), smoke a bowl an hour later, and rate his highness on a scale of 1/10.

    4) Repeat the first steps until you have 20+ different test results spanning over 20+ different days. Then compare results and see if the subject consistently responded to being higher after drinking the smoothie containing mango.
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    Unless these steps or similar steps have been taken to document its effectiveness, it will never be anything more than an Urban Legend of placebo (in my eyes). The science behind the benefits of vaping is extremely solid, but the science behind the benefits of eating mango to increase your high is mostly speculative. If you think eating mango's will get you higher, go for it. I just don't think it does anything for me.
     
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  10. lwien

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    Does anyone remember when we used to believe that dropping an aspirin in a bottle of Coca-Cola turned it into an aphrodisiac? Can't begin to tell ya how much money I wasted on Bayer and Coca-Cola. lol
     
  11. DabComa

    DabComa Stuck in Dab Coma

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    We should call up mythbusters, let's see if they'll bite lol
     
  12. 420time

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    well eatting dried mangos seem to work, but fresh cut mangos are so much more better. especially if enjoying herbs in a vaporizer i seem to feel more higher/stoned. and tip for you guys you can just take the soy lecithin supplements which pretty much helps adsorb thc better.
     
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  13. aesthyrian

    aesthyrian Blaaaaah

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    Are you saying that consuming soy lecithin can help with your high, even when your are vaping and not eating?
     
  14. DDave

    DDave Vape Wizard

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    if you have a 99 Ranch Market nearby, they seem to always have mangos stocked. Great prices on them too!

    Tip: to ripen an unripe mango very quickly... put the mango (or mangos) into a can and cover them with uncooked rice (not minute rice! LOL).... Then watch them daily as they will ripen, then rot, very very quickly! Buying unripe mangos allows me to buy a bunch ahead of time, then ripen in rice as needed.
     
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  15. RUDE BOY

    RUDE BOY Space is the Place

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    I know guys did this to try to Fail the Induction physical when they were Drafted but have never Heard that it was an "Aphrodisiac". That must be one of those crazy left coast Hollywood myths.



    sorry back to Mangoes.
     
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  16. Vicki

    Vicki The Bionic Woman

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    Just a follow up.....the mango hand sanitizer (with real mango juice) isn't enhancing my high. :p
     
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  17. lwien

    lwien Well-Known Member

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    Just one of many, RR. Just one of many......

    But I bet it makes your fingers really tasty. :p
     
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  18. Vicki

    Vicki The Bionic Woman

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    You have no idea. At least it's Triclosan free! :lol:
     
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  19. Lemon Curry?

    Lemon Curry? Have Bud, Will Travel

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    http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Esse...c=0&lc=en-US&w=lemongrass&rc=478&sr=null&ic=1

    The best source of myrcene for those stoniest moments. One drop contains the same amount of myrcene as 2-4 mangoes, and you can dissolve two drops in a glass of water and drink it (more than two drops at a time may feel as a little warmth on your lips, that's how concentrated the oil is :D). Or put the drops in hot water and inhale the fumes.

    I drank two drops w/ water an hour before a vaping session, and the normally mediocre bud had the effects of great bud. The high was more mellow, more "contemplating" and more mystical-feeling, and also longer-lasting on the whole. Of course those are my personal perceptions on the effect, but most experiences of this oil I've read are more or less similar (especially longer-lasting).

    Everyone should definitely give this a try, IMO :).
     
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  20. aesthyrian

    aesthyrian Blaaaaah

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    I have recently been dabbing some Trainwreck shatter and it taste like celery! Like you had just taken a bite of some celery. So I did some quick googling on terpene content in celery and found this http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2621.1969.tb12076.x/abstract which shows that celery also contains myrcene as well as other terpenes that are familiar like pinene and limonene.

    I think next time before I dab some of this, I'll eat some celery ahead of time and see if I notice similar effects like I did with the mangoes.

    @Lemon Curry? That lemongrass looks cool. For $5 I have to give a shot haha
     
  21. grokit

    grokit power cosmic

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    I did, and can vouch for this!
    Lemongrass essential oil in my ssv aroma dish is excellent when vaping mmj!
    :smug::clap:
     
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  22. Jahannum

    Jahannum (。´∀`)ノ

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    Trying the Lemongrass extract now. Dont Dilute into water if your using styrofoam cup's, just a few drops in the water had the whole cup melting(use glass containers).

    Will see how I feel when I vape in 30 mins.


    edit: To prevent double post.

    Ok, strangely enough I got a really light buzz just from the lemongrass extract alone. Also now that I vaped, there is a notacible increase in my euphoria. It works, I would recommend this to others. The buzz is really similiar to when my tolerance is very low.
     
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  23. grokit

    grokit power cosmic

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    The lemongrass oil is so strong that I can still smell it lingering from yesterday,
    that never happens with the coconut-lime "fragrance oil" I usually use for aromatherapy.
     
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  24. shogem

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    I know this is slightly off-topic, but I love the number of source-oriented, research and science-minded folk there are on this forum. Seeing this small scale experiment example warms my bones.
     
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    Deja Vu drawn to FC like animal magnetism

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