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Magma and Obsidian Volcano Bubblers

Discussion in 'Vapor Related Equipment' started by Magma_Industries, Aug 1, 2018.

  1. Roth

    Roth Pining for the Mountains

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    Picking up a Magma to give to my parents for Christmas. Hope they love it!

    On sale for $40 at Magma's site right now too.
     
  2. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead High Standards

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    Everybody still digging their bubblers? Been using the Volcano every once in a while when I want something more stoney than a dab.

    Kinda curious about this one. Been running my Classic at 6 with an XL bag; honestly not sure I'll like the flavor of higher settings to warrant the use of it though.
     
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  3. Magma_Industries

    Magma_Industries Accessory Maker

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    We usually extract as much of the herb as possible at the lowest temp to preserve the flavor profile. It's only at the very end of the session do we turn the Volcano all the way up to 9 on our Classic so that we're sure we've extracted all of the actives from the herb. We don't expect much flavor preservation by that point, though...
     
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  4. Roth

    Roth Pining for the Mountains

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    Gave my parents one for Christmas and I had the opportunity to use it for a little while.

    I have some pros and cons for the Magma.

    First, it absolutely cools and adds moisture to the vapor very effectively. Could definitely tell that the vapor was easier on the lungs, especially at high temps. So the unit performs exactly as advertised.

    Now to my cons with my limited use with it.

    The volume of water in the bubbler is VERY SMALL. It's so small, that sometimes by the end of a large bowl, enough water had evaporated from the the bubbler so the water was no longer covering the perc. I started adding almost twice the recommended amount of water to lengthen the time between refills. I did not notice any downsides to this yet.

    My other con, is that your bags start to retain moisture. After a session, you can see some water condensing in the bag. Not a big deal on it's own, but I was worried about possible mold/bacteria growing in the moisture rich area when the bag wasn't in use.

    To circumvent that, at the end of the night, I'd make sure to do the last half a bowl without the bubbler. That way the heat from the unconditioned vapor would dry the inside of the bag. It seemed to work, I could definitely get the bags dry.

    So overall, not sure I'd use one all the time since I don't find the vapor of the Volcano to be too harsh to begin with. But I did enjoy it.

    For those looking to condition the vapor from the Volcano, this absolutely works and fits the bill. The vapor is noticeably cooler and more humid. Coughing is much less likely..

    @Magma_Industries what do you all do to prevent moisture buildup in the bags when not in use? How long do you typically go before refilling the bubbler?
     
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  5. Magma_Industries

    Magma_Industries Accessory Maker

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    Hey Roth,

    Thanks for the write up and questions! You are correct, both Magma and Obsidian take a very small amount of water in order to operate. Magma was designed to have this amount of water to help reduce water reversal due to back pressure, however this was NOT an issue with Obsidian (because of the secondary chamber water-trap) so it holds roughly twice the amount of water. It should therefore double the amount of time before you need to refill it during a long, hot, session. As long as water does not splash into your bag (and this isn't actually a big issue, just annoying) you can add as much water as you like without any downsides.

    You are correct again that the bag will start to condense moisture during use. This is due to the relative humidity being ~100%, and thus water will condense on ANY surface that is cooler than the vapor. Unfortunately, this includes the inside of the bag, and I don't think there is any practical way to prevent this. If anyone has any ideas I'm open to testing them out for everyone! In the mean time, however, you can definitely aid moisture dissipation by adding warm air to the bag (ie filling it without the bubbler) and then leaving the bag on the Easy Valve. This final step keeps the flaps open and allows the moisture to dissipate into the room. This will happen naturally, but filling the bag with warm air first will accelerate the dissipation. My bag is usually clear within 30-60 min after the session, and I've been using the same bag for over a full year now.

    Otherwise thank you for your kind words and fair review!

    Cheers!
     
  6. Roth

    Roth Pining for the Mountains

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    Good idea about leaving the bag on the valve to keep the flaps on the bag open, will have to mention that to them! We/they usually use personal bags, so there are lots of bags going around. But there are a couple extra bowls to help keep bag flaps open....bag flaps, that doesn't sound great.



    And to be clear, when I said I wouldn't use it all the time, it's mainly because I'm a dry guy. I don't use water when using my ShowerHead or dabbing from my banger. Just give me that straight uncut vapor!

    But for those that like their vapor water conditioned and use the Volcano, the Magma/Obsidian really is a no-brainer.


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  7. Magma_Industries

    Magma_Industries Accessory Maker

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    I’m dying. Too funny. #MoistBoys
     
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  8. Magma_Industries

    Magma_Industries Accessory Maker

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    We're happy to announce that all of our percolation devices are compatible with the Volcano Hybrid! Pics/video coming soon!
     
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  9. Silat

    Silat When the Facts Change, I Change My Mind.

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    I cannot say enough good things about your customer service and your product..
     
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  10. Magma_Industries

    Magma_Industries Accessory Maker

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    Thanks for your kind words! We always try to keep in touch with the community and continually improve our products. After all, we made them for the community! Cheers!
     
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  11. Stu

    Stu Maconheiro Staff Member

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    Since you're looking for input, I'll just say that I wish that it (Magma) allowed for more sessions without needing to constantly add water. There isn't a lot of room currently between "not enough" and "too much" water and I find that I need to add water every couple of bags which is kinda a pain.

    I love the product but just wish I could not have to attend to water levels so much. It's tough to do when you're high as fuck!:ko:

    :peace:
     
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  12. Magma_Industries

    Magma_Industries Accessory Maker

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    Hey Stu,

    Thanks for the feedback! We've definitely heard this critique and request for a larger capacity before. It was a bit tricky to try and apply it to the original batch of the Polymer Red units, as after we placed our original order we were kind of stuck with that geometry until we could re-design for a larger capacity. So unfortunately we don't have a solution readily available for the original Polymer units.

    Thankfully, with that said, we make all of our Borosilicate units in small batches and by hand, which allows for a far greater range of design iterations and refinements. We've focused on incorporating this feedback into the glass models with what I can only assume is success, as I haven't had a single criticism regarding water volume. You can fit approximately 1.5-2x the amount of water in our glass units, and they have a much larger range between "not enough" and "too much". If you're interested, DM me and I'll see what I can do to help get a boro model on your Volcano so you don't have to worry about water during your sessions :)

    I figured it out! Took me long enough, ha! Without further adieu:

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    Obsidian:
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    Action Shot:
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  13. Silat

    Silat When the Facts Change, I Change My Mind.

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    Stu that is very interesting.. I will need to pay attention when I have my next session as I have not needed to add water so far. Granted I only use 2 full bags per session.
     
  14. Magma_Industries

    Magma_Industries Accessory Maker

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    Hey Silat,

    You should be good to go with that kind of use during a session, as the water level only drops enough to notice after multiple chamber loads, or like 45min-1hr of continuous use. But let us know what you see!
     
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  15. ChooChooCharlie

    ChooChooCharlie Well-Known Member

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  16. Magma_Industries

    Magma_Industries Accessory Maker

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    I'd say Volcanoes were always great, we just like making them a bit better ;)
     
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