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Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds was about doing drugs

Discussion in 'The Vapor Lounge' started by 2 Cycle, Jan 8, 2019.

  1. 2 Cycle

    2 Cycle Well-Known Member

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    Just kind of figured this out. Lucy was apparently hooked on heavy drugs in the song. If you take the first letter from Lucy Sky and diamond, it translates to LSD. Are there any other songs by these guys or any others with hidden meanings?
     
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  2. ClearBlueLou

    ClearBlueLou unbearably light in the being....

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    This was much discussed 50 years ago: there is no ‘Lucy’ in the song - just the title, no “hooked on heavy drugs”, the imagery was indeed inspired by psychedelic experiences.
     
  3. CastIronHits

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    It's funny to me to hear someone ask "are there any other songs by [The Beatles]." It gave me a laugh

    This song is certainly part of the psychedelic movement and The Beatles have others in the same vein. This list popped up on a quick search and goes into brief detail on each song. My favorite psychedelic movement band is Jefferson Airplane, but the music of The Beatles during this time and their Indian mystic stage are by far my favorites.
     
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  4. just_the_flu

    just_the_flu they say im crazy but i have a good time

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    ...what about paul mccartney having died and been replaced with a look alike? many references to that in songs and even album covers....... :wave:
     
  5. ClearBlueLou

    ClearBlueLou unbearably light in the being....

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    Classics of the form include:
    Pink Floyd (*all* of Ummagumma, at least),
    The West Coast POP-Art Experimental Band (vol.2’s ‘Smell of Incense’),
    Blues Magoos (Psychedelic Lollipop),
    Love (everything, but def: Forever Changes)
    the Doors (1st 3 LP),
    Iron Butterfly (In-a-gadda-da-vida, baby!)
    Jimi Hendrix (3 Experience LPs),
    the Airplane (After Bathing at Baxter’s),
    Beacon Street Union (‘The Clown Died at Marvin’s Garden),
    Appletree Theater (Hightower Square),
    Ultimate Spinach (Ballad of the Hip Death Goddess),
    Tyrannosaurs Rex (acid hippie music, the earliest Marc Bolan),
    Cream (Wheels of Fire),
    The Crazy World of Arthur Brown,
    Fever Tree,
    Incredible String Band, even the Byrds....

    For Beatles specifically, all of Sgt. Pepper’s, all of Revolver, and chunks of the Yellow Submarine OST. The White Album isn’t about drugs, or particularly under the influence of drugs, but is more the integrated effects of drugs on a group of very capable and talented musicians at the top of their game.

    It was a huge storm back in the day (there were so *many* storms), and was kind of crazy. There are not “many references” to it in songs, or on album covers: it was a crazy idea someone got in their heads while tripping, and went looking for “proof”....

    The same impulse has brought us red-pill salesmen like Jordan Peterson, the pizzagate nonsense, and a whole host of factually unsupported but widely “believed” bullshit.

    As I think about it, Alex Jones works a similar schtick but with malice aforethought
     
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  6. Seek

    Seek Apprentice Daydreamer

    Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds...
     
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  7. uncanni

    uncanni Well-Known Member

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    ...and had a smoke.... and went into a dream...

    Everybody's got something to hide cept for me and my monkey

    So I lit a fire, isn't it good Norwegian wood

    I get high with a little help from my friends

    Protected by a silver spoon

    Keeps a ten bob note up his nose
     
  8. blackstone

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    I'm not up on the Beatles stuff, but I think the song Imagine was supposed to have been a reference to communism or something, maybe I've got it wrong or it's not even a hidden thing!

    A great hidden drugs meaning song from the UK in the nineties was "Ebeneezer Goode" from "The Shamen" and they really got it right at the time.
    Click to play YouTube Video


    Besides having some great rhythm and storming instrumental synths, bassline and guitar parts, it had a winning cheeky chorus that was written like
    " 'eezer Goode, 'eezer Goode, he's Ebeneezer Goode"
    but can be interpreted as
    "E's are good, E's are good, these ebbin (effin, or F-ing) E's are good"

    That E's are good or not is probably debatable but I get a great kick out of listening to this lately, just how they were able to pull it off back then and get it under the radar, and the fun that many people had with it.

    Maybe having the lyrics on screen will help you hear the words better.

    One fun reference says, "Has anyone got any Veras?..... Lovely!!". And I believe this could mean Vera Lynns, which was often a UK/London or Cockney reference to "skins", the slang word for rolling papers!
    This would have been a common request when old 'eezer was around and people needed to relax a bit with a nice joint!
    So funny that it got one up on the establishment for the youth at the time, and maybe ahead of it's time too.
    The song was huge when released as was the club and rave scene in UK and surrounding countries at the time.

    Not much later the similarly named act "The Prodigy" printed this picture inside their album sleeve and maybe this could be seen as a point where some artists no longer wanted to hide their meanings, but actually put them out there on the cover artwork.
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    A vision of an ideal world without being censored or criminalized for having fun with music and recreational drugs?

    Or "Fuck 'em, and their law" as they put it in the hit song!

    I suppose "Rick James - Mary Jane" was hidden meaning or did many people know at the time? It would annoy some cops back then!
    Click to play YouTube Video
     
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  9. 2 Cycle

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    wtf are you telling me that Paul McCartney (beatles singer) could be a doppleganger?
     
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  10. ClearBlueLou

    ClearBlueLou unbearably light in the being....

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    No...
     
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  11. 2 Cycle

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    and the monkeys. What was up with those guys? Always monkeying around and stuff, someone gonna get hurt
     
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  12. Roth

    Roth Pining for the Mountains

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    Doubt it. Probably too busy singing.
     
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    Oh man, did that crack me up! Nope, "those guys" were one hit wonders. Never heard from them again.:rofl:
     
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  14. justcametomind

    justcametomind IT'S TIME!

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    Thanks for the informative post. I didn't know that pic came from a Prodigy album sleeve. I will explore that nice album/songs list.
     
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  15. uncanni

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    However, they did put some people down. They said horrible things about the Partridge family as well as the Bradys. The main problem with the Monkees was that they were into the really hard drugs, unlike the Beatles and Stones. That's why they were so hostile.
     
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  16. blackstone

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    I enjoyed sharing and it's good idea for a thread too by OP. My post got a bit long so I almost didn't post it but luckily I did so!
    That was a very influential image seeing it when I was younger! It was a good idea from the band to put it in there and get a message out.
    I must read up on who painted it or if there is any story to it.

    btw you've got some great suggestions for people for help and vapes in your posts in "ask FC" and elsewhere lately, I wanted to like a few of them last night but I was logged out at the time haha, sorry!

    Jeez I didn't know that, and they got on a TV show.

    The "Golden Brown" song by The Stranglers, and also "Mr. Brownstone" by Guns n Roses were both about harder stuff I believe.
    But perhaps the meanings were not secret to those who listen to lyrics carefully.
     
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  17. uncanni

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    Blackstone, I was totally kidding around; I can tell you're a bit younger than me. Listen to the song:
    Click to play YouTube Video

    If you start feeling nauseous, just ready the lyrics. I was making fun of the lyrics, just like Roth was.

    Things like the Monkees and the Partridge family were the absolute sewage of the era. They were some tv network idiot's idea of what the 60s were all about, and of course they didn't understand at all. The fact that kids loved the Monkees amazed me when I was a kid, because they were bullshit. But just like with Canna-business now, you saw all these money-hungry people jump on the genuine counter culture like vultures to see how they could exploit it and make money.

    Kinda guess you had to be there...
     
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  18. blackstone

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    Thanks for the help! Yeah I got some of the lyrics references because the Monkees was replayed in my country in the 80s and I heard that song a lot. But I did think you were serious about the hard drugs part.
    It wouldn't be completely unbelievable considering the surprises I've had before!
    But I get it now, they were the cleaner than clean guys!
     
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  19. 2 Cycle

    2 Cycle Well-Known Member

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    These guys dissed the Brady Bunch? Who honestly dares...
     
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  20. uncanni

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    Blackstone, I'm so terribly sorry to hear you were subjected to the Monkees in the 80s!! That was definitely adding insult to injury (as the 80s were a pretty messed up decade).


    2 Cycle, that was during their hard drug use phase, they were tweaking all the time after the network forced them to make kool aid commercials:
    Click to play YouTube Video


    That was when Micky Dolenz called David Cassidy a little bitch, which drove David to start drinking.
     
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  21. blackstone

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    It was something my friend's little sis used to watch, maybe we would sit on her and change the channel while singing the song!
    We got everything from Get Smart to Wonderwoman, The Munsters and CHiPs, and I was grateful for things like Macgyver later on.
    Also got some of the Canadian things like The Beachcombers and The Littlest Hobo.
    Along with The Love Boat and Knots Landing hehe if you wanted to watch those!.

    I would go back to the 80s no problem! But it was strange for things like clothes and hair!
     
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  22. uncanni

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    Oh Cannabis gods, it's a wonder you survived Blackstone!!! You were subjected to some of the absolute WORST of American culture!!!

    I did watch a little Get Smart, but much preferred The Avengers. I liked Twilight Zone. I didn't ever watch the bradys or the partridges, love boat, knots, pettycoat, any of that pigslop: it was all so saccherine and phony. And the canned laughter: it makes me shiver to think of it. Pure brainwashing poison, that's how I saw it when I was a kid. I was always paranoid, thinking they were sending me subliminal messages to vote republican and support the Vietnam war...

    May I ask, which country subjected you to such nonsense?
     
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  23. blackstone

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    Ah yes Twilight Zone we were lucky to get that too, one of those remains in my mind forever and it was powerful seeing it back then.
    One where a lady can stop time.
    We got real cool things too, Mork and Mindy, V, and others I can't think of right now.
    And of course the wealth of movies over the years, it has allowed cultures to spread.
    I'll pm you my location but to give others an idea I'm in Europe.

    I did think the Monkees TV show was some of the first canned laughter type thing.
    If mainstream TV was to brainwash you, where do you think the ideas spread about this, was it radio shows or underground magazines or the opinions of those you spent time with?
    I completely get that advertising now is total human mind control science but sometimes I did get that feeling of "this is what they want us to watch"
    Did it come from some cool late night horror show that used to pose these questions, a movie or our own curiosity I wonder.
     
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  24. Mr. Gweilo 420

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    It was about a painting by Julian Lennon or one of his classmates. Lucy was a kid. The LSD acronym was not planned.
     
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  25. started@52

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    Who are the Beatles you speak of? Sir Elton John sang that song.

    God I must be old if this post is serious.
     
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