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INH or Cera or Pax?

Discussion in 'Ask FC' started by vk2003, Nov 25, 2012.

  1. vk2003

    vk2003 Member

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    Can anyone who has had a chance to try a combination of the above give me some guidance please? (I know OF is one of the only people with experience of the Cera - are you out there mate?)

    I have been over the pros/cons of each as far as I have been able to ascertain from the threads (there is a lot of reading there!), and list these below - if I have it wrong anywhere I would be grateful for correction.

    This is going to be my first vape (apart from the one I built whilst at university many moons ago!)
    I have primarily smoked since then, and very infrequently. I don't get much opportunity, so the vape I buy has to be effective, but I also want it to be stealthy, and efficient! I don't like hot vapors, particularly as I'm not used to them, but being perfectly honest, I am unlikely to connect it to a bong - I'm looking for a quick and dirty solution! The only Same as anyone else wanting a vape :)

    Inhalator
    Pros:
    • Effective
    • Efficient
    • Variable temp

    Cons
    • Can get a bit hot
    • Largish so not so stealthy

    Pax
    Pros:
    • Very stealthy novel design (I'm sold on this bit!)
    • 3 Temp settings
    • Quite effective

    Cons:
    • Flaky - constant cleaning required
    • Not available in Europe (so if I buy and have a problem, then I am at the whim of Ploom)
    • Slow to cool down
    • Slow draws as airflow limited

    Cera:
    Pros:
    • Vapor path all ceramic/inert
    • Apparently effective and efficient
    • Derived from a tried and tested product line (if you get what I mean)

    Cons:
    • Not much known about it, and little long term bug testing
    • No temperature control (?)
    • Can get hot
    • Largish, like the inhalator, so not as stealthy

    So friends, please give me the benefit of your experience...
    I am very inclined to go for the Pax, purely because I love the design, but I am willing to be persuaded that it is not the right choice!
  2. NotPotRelated

    NotPotRelated MFLB Pro

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    Solo: better than nearly all.
    Not stealthy though. $150

    I avoid the pax and the inh because of the price.


    Edit: and to be honest , a new product from vapor blunt is looking pretty nice in size and effectiveness go check out the thread you may like it
  3. vorrange

    vorrange Well-Known Member

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    Between the 3, and from what i read on the 3 of them, i would go for the INH, then the Cera and then the PAX.

    The Cera might be the top choice though, still need to hear more about it.

    I think the INH is the most foolproof since you can choose temps and it is convection driven so it is more difficult to accidentaly combust and it is easier to get the hang of it. The PAX loses taste faster but is way stealthier than the other two. The Cera is the best in materials and i would guess, taste, but i has no temp control and less battery life.

    If you need stealth above all else and to be able to use it about everywhere, provided you know the risks of being discovered, then the PAX.

    If you want to have some stealth ability and still have long lasting taste, then it is between the other two.

    THe INH wins in battery and temp preset but looses in taste (i'm deducing here), the Cera's main problem is battery life, but you can use 1-2 batteries and change them easily.
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  4. vk2003

    vk2003 Member

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    I'm starting to get a little more realistic about this. Much as I would love the stealth of the pax, and love the small form factor/design, when I look at how often I am going to be using the device (let alone away from home) it just does not make sense.

    I shall have a look at the new blunt but I got the impression it was a bit of a handful. The INH seems to be the winner at the moment. If the Cera had a variable temp control, then I would have gone for that!
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  5. weedemon

    weedemon enthusiast

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    i sold my pax because it didn't satisfy me. solo is better imo. (can make bigger clouds with 50% less herb)

    the cera is a sipper or mflb style vape i gather. much the same as the thermovape was too (albeit harder hitting than the mflb)

    inh looks cool, but there is a new one on the horizon.

    imo buy a solo and you will easily sell it later if you really wanna get a newer one later on. that's my suggestion.
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  6. cstriker045

    cstriker045 Guest

    This was basically my question as well, more or less. I also wanted to know, are these good if you want to pass it around 4-5 people? Will they overheat? I haven't had any experience with portable vapes, but i've used a volcano before and loved it. Besides that it's usually out of pipes which I don't mind, but vapes seem so much nicer.

    My question like him is INH XP, PAX, or Cera. I don't know too much about vaping, but I can't imagine it would be that hard. Price isn't too much of a concern, but I also won't be looking to get another one for a long time. This will be my main device, I'll probably smoke a few times every few weeks so it won't be used too intensely. The rest the OP basically hit on the button for me. Sorry about hijacking the thread, I didn't see the need to start a new one for basically the same question.
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  7. Tweek

    Tweek Well-Known Member

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    Are big clouds important to you? If so, then Inhalator and Pax would be the way to go over Cera from the information I see thus far.
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  8. Norlin

    Norlin Classic Rocker

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    Recently bought a new pax after predicting it wouldn't be so amazing. It's better than I expected, but just about the only thing I like about it is the ease of use/convenience of design. I guess just being able to charge my vape in front of my buddy's mom without her suspecting a thing is sorta cool.

    Cleaning problems are just as bad as it sounds. Vapor taste is eh...okay. Gets pretty *bleck* :puke: after a while. Makes pretty good clouds though on high, medium is pretty light, though to achieve these clouds you have to inhale very slowly so quantity of vapor is limited by how long you can inhale. Battery life new is great, but I expect it to go bad after a year of use as a daily driver. But that's cool as long as you're willing to send it in regularly since it comes with a 10 yr warranty. Not worth the money imo. Maybe 150. Feels like a 150 dollar unit.

    Also very easy to scratch, let my friends use it gently once...They didn't baby it like I do, nothing really that should mark it, but it did... and now I have a few dents on it, cera will never have that problem.

    FLAKY IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. Traveling and needing the ability to go long periods of time without cleaning? Too bad. 4 bowls is what it took for before it gummed up on me.

    Pax 2 will prolly be a lot better, but until then this vape will just be a gimmick to me.

    My opinion: Get the Cera, or the INH. I wish I did. You'll get your moneys worth. I'll be selling mine for a cera once I see what they're like and initial reports come out.
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  9. ShipDit

    ShipDit 1%

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    Take a serious look at the Solo. It's easy to move around the house or for group sessions. Also travels well,just kinda clunky compared to the others IMO. At just $160 its a screaming deal.
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  10. kushcabbage

    kushcabbage vapor nerd

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    agreeded I have the pax, solo, and had the davinci, t1, volcano, EQ and inhalater, preordered the inh004xp, have to say I really dislike the pax with cleaning issues, more fussy than my gf. The solo is the tastiest and bluest vapor ever would be my only vape if I had to pick one. Only want the xp to go extra stealth and portable with pre loaded caps. Would never trade my solo. With a dremel or ed's wooden stems or planetvapes glass on glass stems it's a beast. Good luck on your search mate.
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  11. ShipDit

    ShipDit 1%

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    If you're gonna be spending $250+,you may want to wait a couple weeks 'till the first reports on the Cera come in.
    For how you intend on using it,the PAX may be more labor intensive due to all the cleaning required to keep it running right.
    INH XP is a quality piece,well suited for home use. But the Cera was designed from the start to be a "Personal Vaporizer", one meets all your needs. Don't rule out the Solo either. The money saved would buy a nice bag of Christmas Weed!
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  12. vk2003

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    My biggest concern about the cera is the lack of temp control, so it would appear to be fine for sipping, but if you forget to switch it off between hits, you might end up cooking our stash prematurely.

    I am sold on the solo being the best of the (portable) lot, but it is not a subtle or brilliantly portable device. The INH seems to be close behind.

    I am going to pre-order an INH XP. Thanks for helping me decide everyone!
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  13. pakalolo

    pakalolo RoboMod v3.17 (ticking) Staff Member

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    TET makes a big deal out of the fact that the Cera is a convection device, so it shouldn't cook your load if you leave it on. What will happen is that the whole unit will gradually warm up and can even become uncomfortable to hold.
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  14. weedemon

    weedemon enthusiast

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    glad you have come to a decision m8! :) enjoy your new vape when ya get it!! :)
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  15. vk2003

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    Ahhhh. I had overlooked the convection aspect. The fact that it copes with resin as well, even using the herb cart.... Just concerned that a package that small can prove to be an effective convection system

    Oh crap. Square one!

    EDIT: I should really stick with the XP. Made a decision etc...
  16. vorrange

    vorrange Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, why pre-order when you are just starting? Just wait until both come out and then make a more informed decision?
  17. Tweek

    Tweek Well-Known Member

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    Personally, I think the Cera is too new and expensive for a first vape. You can invest in one of these lower cost options and always try a Cera down the road once we get more feedback on performance, and perhaps some sales.

    Besides, none of us end up with just one vape for long :D
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  18. vk2003

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    Hey Tweek,

    You are right; but, I will only be buying one vape. My wife does not agree with MJ as it is still illegal here. But I find it a much better painkiller than the codeine based meds the doctors prescribe, and NSAIDS are pretty bad for your kidneys amongst other side effects, so long term are a bad option.

    This is why I am agonising over which one to get as it is a one time spend
  19. Tweek

    Tweek Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough...my wife hates it too ;) Think about what kind of user you are...what are your expectations? For example, I really enjoy thick vapor and being on the go all the time, I need something I can turn on, get a fat rip or two out of, and then stuff back into my pocket. I can't fuss over breathing techniques, etc.

    If you want to consider the Cera, I would wait until more users have a chance to try it out. The last thing you want to do is be an early adopter for your first vape...cause if it has issues or is not what you want, you will just end up angry and out alot of money. This is why I think you should consider some of the other vapes that have been on the market for a while already. They are cheaper right now and there are plenty of reviews and videos out there to show you how they work.

    All depends on how much of a rush you are in to get started :D
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  20. JCat

    JCat Well-Known Member

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    I said I was only going to buy one vape ... and that was 19 vaporizers ago if I'm counting right ... and that was let's see ... 19 months and 2 days ago that I made my first vaporizer purchase ... hmmm .... seems I'm averaging about 1 per month ... that might be a little excessive ... thoughts?

    If you are truly only going to buy one, than you might want to consider a desktop (plug-in) vaporizer as the value/performance tend to be better, otherwise, if I just had to have one, and I had to make the choice now and stick to it, it would be the Solo (I think long term durability may be better ... if you can replace it if it breaks after warranty than I would lean towards the INH I think)
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  21. vk2003

    vk2003 Member

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    Tweek

    do you still consider the INH a new vape? Or do you think there are enough subjective reviews to recommend it?

    vk
  22. Tweek

    Tweek Well-Known Member

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    I have not used it myself, but I have thought about purchasing it a few times based on the reviews of some pretty established users on here. I would head over to that thread and read it through (if you haven't already), even contact a few folks who own it. Lots of nice people here willing to lend a hand :D

    I would say it's pretty well established over all. Now the new version, again we won't know of any issues until it comes out...that whole early adopter thing comes into play there as well.

    Edit: I do agree that the Solo is a very nice vape. So if you don't want a full desktop and don't need a portable to commute with, it's a great, affordable option ($160)!!

    Another Edit :p: Heck, you could buy a Solo and another vape (or something to use in the Solo :smug:) for the same cost of the Cera right now. Being frugal is important if you have to appease a potentially angry wife ;)
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