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Imp by MistVape

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by mistvaporizer, Dec 2, 2018.

  1. Improvize

    Improvize Well-Known Member

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  2. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    Yes the Fury2 is very smooth but I'm not sucking air... it looks like you appreciate the "hit", the feeling you get in the throat when you take a draw, some peoples like that and others don't, I'm in a third category where it happens I enjoy both smooth hits and hard hits, it depends my mood. The Imp can provide both styles too but here it depends the settings of your mod box.

    Still use my Imp, still use exclusively my mod too (load in the Imp), the wood is very clean yet but I can see some tiny marks from resin I bet. It's impressive how wider is the t° range avalaible now... I don't know if it's due to my mod but I get vapor from 360°F to 470°F (actually max temp I use but I can go higher without combustion I think). This is where it shines cause with a lot of 510 stuff you have to look for the thin t° range avalaible between blank hits and combustion, so, about this aspect this is the easier to use 510 dry herb atty for beginner.
     
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  3. Improvize

    Improvize Well-Known Member

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    I've been messing around with this sort of mod, too. Got a nice little rig going last night (see pic). The only issue I have is the flavor was diminished, I believe because I simply placed a second screen on top of the herb before inserting my stem to hold it all in place. If I could devise a smaller screen setup for this tapered stem, it could be very nice indeed because it roasts things surprisingly evenly that way. I am concerned about making the body dirty. It seems a Mighty dosing cap could be mangled in a way to fit down in there as a sleeve... hmmm...

    I love tinkering and this is a tinkerer's dream vape. :)

    https://imgur.com/a/yBR1XcK
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  4. Daprezz

    Daprezz Well-Known Member

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    The RX 2/3 with 2 bat config looks like a nice option. There is also another firmware for vaping with evics (and should work with the primo mini I am waiting for and even the sinuous that I like) :
     
  5. Hippie

    Hippie Well-Known Member

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    Slow ramp up isn't a fault of the firmware
    Check out the mod firmware and recommended mods threads for the low down on mods n firmwares

    http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/w...ing-for-on-demand-convection-510-vapes.25465/

    http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/tc-box-mods-firmware-discussions-and-customizing.23742/

    DNA mods offer the best temp control.
    Arctic Fox, tubomyevic and sur_myevic are all based on the same open source firmware project for a particular Joyetech chip and can be configured to get pretty close to the same performance with compatible mods (see above threads for compatibility lists).
    Tubomyevic and sur_myevic have cruise or autofire modes for both temp control and wattage modes. Tubomyevic has a few more features added for weed vaping as it was developed specifically for the Tubo but the compatibility list is smaller than sur_myevic and arctic fox and only works with older mods at the moment altho I'm still hopeful that someone will add compatibility for newer mods at some point.
    There are 100s of other mods to choose from of course but you may struggle to set them up to work the way you want if they don't have adjustable TCR, resistance and cut off timer or if they have the dry cotton cut off "feature"
     
  6. sickmanfraud

    sickmanfraud Well-Known Member

    I have used my imp with a DNA250C mod. Works great. I have no "reason" why, but I prefer the imp with the Tubo software on a RX2/3.
     
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  7. mistvaporizer

    mistvaporizer Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    @Improvize in a previous post you noted issues with the instructions for setting up tubo firmware. I finally checked that and indeed the instructions had a cliche. You have to enable Tubo before you do the resistance setting. I modified the instructions at www.mistvaporizer.com/blog so it should work fine now. I have another mod to set up and will run through it one more time then.
    thanks for checking.
     
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  8. Monkeyhouse

    Monkeyhouse Accessory Maker

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    I know this is a late response but I was also concerned about my purpleheart vapes fading and did some research. UV rays are responsible for both giving purpleheart its vibrant color and it's eventual fade. Good luck though as beeswax filters out UV rays so a combination of keeping your vapes well waxed, and out of sunlight when not in use will help preserve that beautiful color for as long as possible!
     
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  9. GoldenBud

    GoldenBud Well-Known Member

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    Guys with ELEAF's PICO 75W mod will need a 'Heat Sync' for making sure the IMP has enough space to stand. otherwise it works great in 'Power mode'
     
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  10. alleyhoops

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    I should be getting my Imp today. I am hoping I can get to it later. If not tomorrow.
     
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  11. Daprezz

    Daprezz Well-Known Member

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    Just got it and already love it ! Don't regret the choice of a dark bocote. It pairs well with my black vtwo mini. got some "noob luck " success from the get go with the settings given by Dave. I think the temps are kind of accurate ! Is there someone else thinking that with the glass there is a litlle conduction added at high temperatures (around 440 f / 230 c) that gets more even abv than the wood stem ? But even with the wood stem I get quite even abv at the end with a few stirrings.
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    Deadly potent combo.
     
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  12. Improvize

    Improvize Well-Known Member

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    I received my shorty glass stem and shorty wooden wong today. They're really cute lol! Even smaller than I pictured, and perfect for on the go as I intend to use them. Not as harsh as I'd thought, either. Thanks for the custom order, Dave.

    I've been wrapping all my glass in silicone tubing. It really helps keep them cool on the lips, protects from drops, and provides native mating with waterpieces. Highly recommended!

    ... I might have a stem problem already...

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  13. dagfp

    dagfp Active Member

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    that short stem is badass! how long is it? does it provide similar effects to the stock stems? the cooling stem with bubbles inside is a nice design but the dense accumulation of honey makes me think that however negligible it is probably filtering out actives.

    i wonder why mistvaporizer didnt include the shorty as part of the regular assortment of accessories... it perfectly fits the use case of being a portable compact vape.

    i vape ejuice at 480 degrees and it doesnt feel too hot so if the short stem imp is run with temperature control i dont imagine the dryness of the vapor adding too much heat or discomfort... an 810 drip tip would be even more portable than the short stem, i would be curious how it would affect the draw
     
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  14. alleyhoops

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    Tried it out tonight. Like just now, and I will give an update later. I definitely can say that it hit me much quicker than my Solo 2, damn. I only started out with the Cooling Stem. Definitely, the first 3-4 draws, I still felt the taste of the flower. I started at 395 degrees. I think I got about 12 draws until I didn't see any more vapor. Is that normal? I raised it to about 415. I have no experience with mods, so i am not sure if I should have went that high. I think I got 8 draws from 395, 2 from 405, and 2 from 415. The stem definitely felt hot, even at the last two draws at 395. Should I lower it? I didn't do much, barely fit half of the stem with flower.

    It's a much easier draw than my Solo, doesn't take as much effort. I can easily see this as my daily driver. I really cannot believe how small it is. I was expecting it much larger in size. Easily fits in my hands. I will post photos later, when my wife gets off my damn phone lol. My main question is my temperatures. Definitely felt it really hot after the 8th hit on 395.
     
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  15. dagfp

    dagfp Active Member

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    i don't have the imp but on a box mod for ecigs 400 degrees is a mildly warm vape. on the imp, it might feel hot (since the coils are not wet) but another consideration is that your mod is reading the resistance incorrectly. if the resistance is reading high then the temperature control function won't work properly (and it will feel too hot).

    do you know how to get into the settings for your box mod? i think the imp uses 316L Stainless Steel coils (please correct me if i'm wrong) so you'll want that selected on your mod. some people play around with the TCR values of SS316L, though the default is 0.00092.

    generally the way to keep your heat down would be to either leave more time between hits or shorten the time of depressing the button. though if temperature control mode is working properly when the coils reach the set temperature it should stop heating up immediately.

    you could also play around with lowering or boosting the wattage. the more watts the faster the mod will get up to the set temperature but it will also cut off the power in the middle of a hit when it reaches that temperature which can result in a weaker vape. you want to hit that sweet spot between where the mod is heating up the coils in tune with your draw without overpowering it, while also not being slow to ramp up from being underpowered.

    which mod are you using? the temperature control function has a reputation for working poorly on many cheaper mods, especially ones that are more than a couple years old. newer mods with more advanced chips offer better control of the temperature.

    ultimately, stainless steel coils cool down pretty so i guess the problem is with the glass retaining heat. probably some kind of cover is the only solution in that case.

    my strategy for a 510 style vape would be to judge based on how the ABV looks. if the ABV is nicely browned but it's uncomfortably hot, just keep adjusting the temperatures down by 5 degrees until the vapor feels cool enough while still extracting reasonably efficiently.
     
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  16. Daprezz

    Daprezz Well-Known Member

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    Did you try tuning it as explained on the mistvape site ?

    Oh oh, I'll definitely need these shorty stems if they're available. The problem is if I pay for another expedition I'll also want to seize the opportunity to order this bare essence vape that caught my eye... Mmm mayday mayday VAS alert. i'll wait a little bit.
     
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  17. SloJimFizz

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    Works very well with DNA75C. Using the SS 316MPL material setting I get excellent vape with a range from 360°f to about 395° for full extraction.
    Very similar to the other box mod attys, just with the smaller load size and much smaller footprint overall.
    Mine did not come with a screen over the heater, but Dave sent me out one along with the wood collar. I know the wood collar come standard now, not sure about the coil screen.
    I've been tinkering with the Fury 2 dosing caps and they fit in the wooden mouth piece up to the lid. It doesn't seat tightly cause of that, but it works well.
    Shots of the Imp on the Purple Ostrich Therion.

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  18. mistvaporizer

    mistvaporizer Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    Hey all I'll put the shorty stem on the website. I felt they were too hot so i didn't offer them. But @Improvize likes it so I'll offer them.
    @dagfp the beads do collect some actives but if you do the hot milk cleaning and drink the milk it is great! You aren't losing any just deferred consumption
    The stems do heat up over time? That's normal.
    Dosing caps have been on my mind for a long time? I have some ideas but haven't built any protos yet.
    Working on the next batch.
    Hoping to start gold plating the electrodes for enhanced corrosion resistance.
    The plan is to change the shape a bit, purely cosmetic. Also going to incorporate the washer into the coil deck so there isn't an extra piece to break or lose.
    Pictures coming in a couple days.
    I'm really glad everyone is enjoying the Imp. It's the only vape I've been using and I'm enjoying it a lot.
     
  19. Daprezz

    Daprezz Well-Known Member

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    @mistvaporizer maybe you could specify they are running hot and that you recommend the longer ones for a cooler vape. This way we can order them at our own risk of discomfort and you should get no complains.
    I also have some maintenance questions : how do you clean the inside of the wood stem ? Do you recommend to put some wax or oil on the outside of the stem? And on the bocote cover ?
     
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  20. mistvaporizer

    mistvaporizer Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    I don't have a good trick for cleaning the inside of the wood stem. Pipe cleaners or qtips is the best bet.
    A bit of bees wax or carnuba wax is great for the wood. A drop off mineral oil is also good for the wood. After sanding i use mineral oil then carnuba wax

    Here are pics of the new coil deck

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    I just glued the washer onto the deck. No functional change just cosmetic.
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  21. alleyhoops

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    Your first picture looks like the Hamburgler lol.
     
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  22. Daprezz

    Daprezz Well-Known Member

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    Got an exceptionnal session this rainy sunday morning. 2 screen method tstep mode (it's like cruise mode)4 steps from 198 c to 228. It ripped for like 20 hits for 5-10 minutes like a session vape but on sterroids. Less than 0.1g only opened once to stirr. Even dark abv at the end.
     
  23. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    Amazing job Dave, this cosmetic issue was one of my main concern!

    Can I order a deck only?
     
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  24. Daprezz

    Daprezz Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the new washer alone ( that is now kind of a cover ? ) can solve this minor cosmetic issue ? I think I'm gonna first see were this plating ( is this oxidation thing a concern over time?) thing and general evolution is going for a deck and/or even second custom cover :brow:. It's also very nice with the washer I have that dispite the 2 colors sits flush.
     
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  25. oddjobold

    oddjobold 510 Vaporist

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    I am loving the imp. I have brought a wismec sinous p80 for the imp, and dont plan on moving it. I would be worried about moving the wood base to often as looks fragile. With the p80 the imp is quite tiny.

    I sold my FW5 because of the long draws required for a decent hit. The Imp performs better than expected in that department. Its tiny in size but punches above its weight. Splinter is more of a heavy hitter, but not much. The cooling glass stem is very effective at cooling the vapor. I have brought glass beads seperatly for other stems works well.

    All stems seem to wobble a bit in my imp. I get a good seal, so this is just cosmetic. However still gives me the OCD twitch.

    Overall another classic vape from a classic vape maker.
     

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