i get by with a little help - newer whip vapes?

is there any new whip vaporizers, or any new vaporizers in general that may be better than the silver surfer and around the same price range?

ive come to the conclusion after some research that the silver surfer is generally the most prefered and well- liked vaporizer.

i was looking at the vaporxcloud and it looks amazing, a little pricey tho

I'd look into the Underdog, the Epicvape, or the 7th Floor Life Saber (LSV)

All have threads on the first page of "Plug-in Vape" section.

The SSV & LSV are made by the same people and have the same heating element, but the LSV has a glass vaporpath and is also designed more for hooking up to a glass bong.

Personally, I don't think that there are any whip based vapes that are better than the SSV.

Are they any vaporizers in general that are better than the SSV at the same or lower price point? That depends on what you want from your vape. If you are going to be using your vape in party situations, you may want to consider the Extreme Q for it's bag option. If you are primarily going to be using your vape through glass, an LSV is a very viable option. If efficiency is what you're really after, you may want to look at the UD.

I disagree with your conclusion that the SSV is the most preferred and well-liked vaporizer. It may, however, be the most preferred and well liked WHIP based vaporizer.

does the LSV build up hash like the SSV?

i think is read something of 'wand hash'

and thanks for info, lsv seems to be at the top of my list. my friends have bongs so that would be cool add-on although i wouldnt use it with pieces most of the time

If the vapor is not too hot to inhale, why need a bong to cool it? If you use ice in the bong for cooling that's cool. If you use water, you'll lose 2% water weight of thc in the water.

They did lab research, water takes out nothing bad in thc vapor but thc itself.

IMO, the SSV is the best whip vaporizer you can get right now. I would get a miniwhip from Vaporbrothers to use less material per session as well.

If you use it more with water, go to the LSV instead and get a whip adapter for the LSV.

Except for the flying bits that stay in the water instead of hurting your throat and lungs. I still can get harsh hits with a bong, but it is a world of difference.