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  1. Roger D

    Roger D Vapor Wizard

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    A bar for a day, the last one is today. 140 days, 80 grams.

    I don't want to spend too much on the overpriced market. It sells at 12e/g average witch is ridiculous for what this is, dry flowers. It should be a fraction of that.
    If I could I would use 1.2g/day the whole year. Like we can see in the graph, that's the daily amount I picked up from my home grown stash for my vacations, I really enjoyed to have plenty. But that's a bunch of work to afford such amounts if you want it like that all the time. Buying or growing. I'm already at 200e/month for my overall average (.57/day) when I have to buy. Fucking expensive. I don't know how long I can afford it even while restricting myself which is a double :doh:

    I have to get back to grow. 50g of the 80g that were used in the graph was home made stuff, doing the maths it saved me around 600e, that's what it would have cost buying it. The problem is that our grow room is too cold on top of a bunch of many problems like a lack of fresh air intake that we have to resolve, and trying to heat the room do not work either. I do that with a friend. We only had a whole total dry yield of 200g, 100g/person ; in more than two years ! Only two sessions really worked at 100g each. We really had a lot of troubles and disappointment, all the time we worked our asses off without getting results and many times we were let down. Plants seemed to lock and the overall growing was really slow. The flowers were always really good when harvested, rock hard sticky material, so much better than what you can buy, and 100% organic. Gourmet stuff.

    That's our lack of experience and the poor conditions that makes the quantity suffer. I hope the next session will be a good one. Like everybody who grows medically goal is to be 100% independent and to not buy anything, while being able to quality control medicine in the whole process.
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  2. robbie

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    What do you use to calculate your consumption?
  3. Roger D

    Roger D Vapor Wizard

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    I use openoffice calc and a home made sheet. I can send it to you if you want. The idea is to weight what you have left daily, you can get nice statistics that way. I also weight each bowl to conserve material
  4. mvapes

    mvapes Surrounded by the healthy!

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    Im about a quarter to a half ounce a week. Now, I have to mention that my wife uses too but no where near what I use.
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  5. vorrange

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    I'm enjoying your graphs Roger, i find it amazing how you keep the same amount for so many days. Even though you weigh the bowls, it shows great discipline. I am sure you could lower the usage with the help of a small t-break to lower your tolerance.

    Are you a medical user or recreational? I have begun my "night-vaping-only" habits again because they allow me to be more productive and lower my usage as well.
    Although i have a low tolerance right now, about 2,5g/month.. i managed 1g/month from june to september because i needed to save, when i combusted i used 2g in 3 days.. i needed to buy cheap hash to avoid spending that much money. (here its 10e/g as well for weed)

    Im curious, how much is a full bowl in the miniVAP without packing it? I am convinced that a small bowl would help you achieve lower tolerances, as well as slowly rising the temperature instead of setting it on max.
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  6. Gammy

    Gammy Gammy's getting upset!

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    I vape less than a gram per week, but I'm not really medicating so that explains it. ;)
  7. newVaper420

    newVaper420 Vapor Enthusiast

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    Yeah, with my medication I hover between 1 and 2 grams. I want to stay under 1, but using the Pax, and the Cloud, (not that I'm saying I couldn't), makes it easier to go do some sessions.

    I'm trying to stay about the 1 gram limit, but if I'm home all day, forget it. During christmas week, one day I made it up to 2.7grams.

    Way way too much.

    Wish there was a better way or something. I use it for severe pain IBS.
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  8. Vicki

    Vicki The Bionic Woman

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    I'm back down to less than a 1 gram a week because I'm using nothing but hash. It's probably closer to 0.5 grams, though.
  9. Dreamerr

    Dreamerr Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀

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    I don't get how you all use so little. IIFC a INH cap holds about .25 with the solo coming in at about .15. I am guessing of course based on what people say. My scale can't weigh that little. So that would mean you all are using about one stem a day or one cap a day or the equivalent in whatever you are using. I could never do that since I need to medicate or there will be huge issues. If I use about a gram a day I had a good day.
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  10. Roger D

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    Glad you enjoyed the graph ;) That would be awesome if other guys could follow.


    I would qualify myself as a medical user. I would have trouble living without it. I feel under control with this medication.

    The most frequent symptoms I experience are lack of appetite, stomach pain, hyperactivity, inability to rest and chronic insomnia. This is not a habit problem since I cook almost everything I eat and I'm very picky, quality ingredients, organic if possible, avoid too large meals, sleep as much I as can and avoid any chemical contamination.

    To lower your tolerance the best I found, without stopping taking your meds, witch I couldn't, is to exercise at something intense regularly. Weight lifting and nunchuks worked well for me. Theses last 6 months, at least, I have have not trained much. Gotta get back to it.

    I put a .1 in the minivap bowl witch is the optimal amount to get great clouds without kicking your stash. Putting less gives a frustrating experience for me. I like to cough a bit or at least feel it.
    To make it last I just wait more for the next hit since with my prototype rig the stuff doesn't cook between hits.

    Theses days I'm around .7/day, a bit much, but I gotta medicate through the whole day.

    I noticed a problem : The first bowl of the day is the stronger then it goes weaker through the day.
    I think I'm gonna try to start a new pattern, the earlier it is, the less I put :

    .06
    .07
    .08
    .09
    .10
    .11
    .12

    = .63/day with 7 bowls and the last one should be good bye good night.
  11. Vicki

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    I medicate all day long, using my MFLB. The only reason I am able to use so much less now is because all I have right now is hash. I only need a teeny bit to help alleviate my symptoms. i.e.-nausea/vomiting, pain, etc. If I were using all bud, I would be using at least 2 grams per week.
  12. newVaper420

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    I still don't understand but applaud you for 2 grams a week. I'm in pain constantly all day long, especially after I eat which takes away the effects. So like I said, some days I'm up to 2 grams a day.

    I use about .2 - .25 a load. Maybe thats too much, but at times I'll need a double session. So my optimal load is .2
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  13. Vicki

    Vicki The Bionic Woman

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    All I use is the MFLB, and I can use microscopic amounts in it.
  14. vorrange

    vorrange Well-Known Member

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    Do you find how much you need to ease all those symptoms or do you just go by feeling?

    I reported the same results regarding lowering the tolerance via exercise, i also been working out less because it's winter and i get lazy with the cold, but i usually did a few runs a week and body weight exercises in the garden (cat leaps, diamond push-ups and pull-ups mostly).

    I think your new method might work, i notice that if my first bowl is large, i end up vaporizing more that day and i also notice that by night i tend to use more as well. So, starting with half the amount in the first bowl seems quite reasonable considering your last bowl.

    Do you divide that by bowl or by amount per session?

    For example:

    .06 - 2 0,03 bowl
    .07 - 0,03/0,04
    .08 - 0,04/0,04
    .09 - 0,045/0,045
    .10 - 0,05/0,05
    .11 - 0,05/0,06
    .12 - 0,06/0,06

    I don't know if this is satisfactory using the minivap, with my WW it would be plenty for me and this way you spend more time per session and you give time for the high to evolve.
    I think i tend to enjoy more if i do more bowls for the same amount, provided it does not hinder the extraction of the cannabinoids.
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  15. Roger D

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    I like thick hits that comes fast (.1 bowl is perfect for that on the mv) recently with my volcano i used to do .035 bowls and was at .4/day. Back ago I used to vape as little as .14/day avg for like a year or so. But I just need more to feel good.

    Today I'm at .59 but I think I'm gonna need a last one. Tomorrow I will try the new pattern. That's for 7 bowls so I will vape these amounts straight.

    Ideally I should grow enough to afford a gram each day so I could load bigger bowl and get more.

    .09 + .10 + .11 + .12 + .13 + .14 + .15 + .16 = 1/day

    .07 + .08 + .09 + .10 + .11 + .12 + .13 = .70/day

    .06 + .07 + .08 + .09 + .10 + .11 + .12 = .63/day

    .05 + .06 + .07 + .08 + .09 + .10 + .11 = .56/day

    Maybe a way here to stretch the medication through the day
  16. Dreamerr

    Dreamerr Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀

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    You have a lot of patience even keeping the chart and weighing every bowl. I commend you for trying to reduce how much you use. I suppose I don't really care how much I use as long as I don't flip out all is good. I was however interested in reducing my tolerance and exercise is not an option. When I with hold meds from myself things don't go well.
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  17. Roger D

    Roger D Vapor Wizard

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    I don't weight every bowl but I try to tend to weight as much as possible. Most of the times I weight my total after a couple bowls and I do an average. Sometimes I'm really tired and days pass without weighting and I have to average but its not a big deal for the stats.

    I also have a scale in my head because I weighted so much stuff I know that I can load a .1 with +/- 0.02 precision eye only.

    I try to not make a hassle out of it but great interesting statistics about how much I use and so I can relate that to how I feel in a certain period and see what is the best, see exactly how much I need to grow.. Much things and practical data to discover

    Reducing, Its kind of tough. Even with patterns the final amount is unchanged.

    For the moment my primary goal is not to reduce quantity. .6/day is a good average, I just got to stick to it, and theses times it seems like I need more and more, like .7-.8/day still doesn't feel enough, and I can't afford to continue. I want to stick to .6 and get more of it, get a better medication through the day.

    My only T break is when I sleep, so starting slow seems like the best path for a evenly distributed effect. The fact that my tolerance is higher before going to sleep doesn't help with the insomnia. The last bowl should be the stronger in therms of feels. In my experience its the exact opposite that keeps on happening. My first bowl of the day is the stronger (tolerance lowered by the night) and the last one is too weak to help me sleep.
  18. Puffers

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    I have thought about this a couple times I think I average about ~200mg/weekday or ~500mg/weekend of vaporized thc a day, but it's somewhat hard for me to estimate with my consumption habits. I normally mix herb, bubble/wand hash, or oil into one day and at night normally all into one session. I have been curious about this though and have been wanting to get a 1/100th accurate scale to more precisely calculate my consumption.
  19. newVaper420

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    Since I only deal with loose leaf, i always weigh out before every pack. :-) Trying to get it to under 1g a day, not happening yet LOL. today 1.10. Well actually it's after 12:00am, so yesterday .9 LOL. I guess thats a good day :-)
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  20. Roger D

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    I'm making a second sheet to see how I spread bowls through the day

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    Hopefully changing the patterns will result in a better, even medication

    Yeah, my days are not from midnight to midnight. The next day is after I sleep because when you're awake its more logic to stick on the same line for stats. I'm doing the same for the daily version.
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  21. vorrange

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    Roger, can you tell me the difference in weight between the same bowl after you vaporized it? I thought it was about 30% but after some math about my usage it seems to be more. :shrug:

    About your usage, i notice it keeps increasing, you said it was at 0,14g a day, recently you did 0,4g/day, and now 0,59/day. I seem to vaporize more now as well, i have been wondering if it is because it is winter.

    I read about something called Seasonal Afective Disorder, it is about when the cold months come people get moody and sad, and some become depressed, etc.. I indentified with some of what was said, although not as severely, i am way more blue in the winter months and i am much more ecstatic in the summer months.. And, coincidence or not, my usage has risen steadily has the sun has gone down the horizon. :)
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  22. Frederick McGuire

    Frederick McGuire Aggressively Loungey

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    I'm not roger, but you might be interested in this I posted in another thread ages ago;

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  23. vorrange

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    Then it was your post that i remembered the 30% weight loss from, thanks Fred! :tup:

    Have you did smaller comparisons with other vaporizers to see if there are differences between the SSV and others you had at the time? In theory they should be the same.
  24. Frederick McGuire

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    Not yet, but I'm thinking it should be easy enough to get some solo and LSV numbers to add to the mix. :brow:
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  25. CocoaPuffy

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    What's up FC. First post!

    I have an Extreme Q and a MFLB. I tend to the use former more than the latter as I am at home most of the time.

    I pack .2g-.25g in the elbow of the Extreme 5-7 times a day. I go through roughly 1-1.5g a day, occasionally more but rarely less. If finances/time allowed, I'd probably hover between 2-3.5g a day but 1g a day allows for 5 average sessions spread 2 hours apart, covering most of my day even on light days.

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