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Discussion in 'Ask FC' started by stinkytofus, May 8, 2018.

  1. stinkytofus

    stinkytofus Well-Known Member

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    Wash the buds with water ? Vinegar ?
    Will this wash the trichomes away ?
     
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  2. howie105

    howie105 Well-Known Member

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    Opps user error, sorry
     
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  3. howie105

    howie105 Well-Known Member

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    There are dozens of possible pesticides, herbicides and other contaminates that can get on pot in dozens of different ways, some can be removed very simply and some can't so unless you have a particular agent in mind I don't think you are going to get very useful answers. Good Luck
     
  4. OldNewbie

    OldNewbie Well-Known Member

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    1. You can't.
    2. If you could, it would depend on the pesticide/herbicide.
    3.Turn the flower to oil and use flash chromatography.
     
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  5. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead trance-form

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    If you put the dirty bud in a trashcan and leave the lid on for 10 years the pesticides should go away.

    No but really, I'm not aware of any real form of pesticide remediation short of a distillation with advanced chromatography, but even that is questionable IMO.
     
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  6. Egzoset

    Egzoset Vaporist of Borg

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    Salutations,

    Trichome secretion glands collect noble molecules on a molecular basis at the genesis site, so if this ain't been contaminated by sprays then it's already "purified" and even possibly delivered in a most convenient form. Just don't bake vegetal tissue infused with nuisible stuff, which means thermostatic thermalization as in "Hot Dry Air Ovenizers" à la Volcano/Arizer may prove less than appropriate in such a scenarios. Anyway i'd advise against monster tokes in presence of pesticides...

    Good day, have fun!! :peace:
     
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  7. stinkytofus

    stinkytofus Well-Known Member

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    The pesticides that are sprayed unto the buds can be cancer causing whether you vape or smoke it, i did some research on how some people used water to give it a wash or used baking soda and lemon juice combo to wash it, the result is less pesticides, slightly less trichomes and thc, dust and etc are washed away but overall smoother vape

    Was wondering anyone here tried it before and would like to englighten me with their experience ?

    These buds are sprayed so much pesticides that although im vaping rather than smoking and is healthier but i am still inhaling pesticides, my options are finding someone who grows it organically, or grow or find a way to remove it, even if i cant fully remove say 4 pesticides, if i can get rid of even say 2 out of the 4 ill vape it with a peace of mind

    Pesticide free buds are the least harmful with medicinal benefits, buds with pesticides all over it, not so much
     
  8. howie105

    howie105 Well-Known Member

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    Please point us towards your source. I am thick headed and don't see the process involved working for many pesticides.

    How did you isolate the pesticide in question? Unless you know the pesticides involved you don't know what will or wont work.
     
  9. Mulchmaker

    Mulchmaker Veni Vidi Vapi

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    If the pesticide is systemic, you can use all the baking soda, lemon juice, prayer beads and unobtanium in the galaxy and it won't make much difference (aside from ruining your herb). Topical pesticides can be removed, but cured buds are fragile things and you're going to wreck a lot of the flower.

    If pesticides are a serious concern for you, your best option is to control the source. Only buy from reputable, pesticide-free growers, or grow your own.
     
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  10. OldNewbie

    OldNewbie Well-Known Member

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    When I hear of washing one's buds, it is not in the context of cured cannabis. The wash tends towards raw flower before the curing. I know that doesn't change the bottom line, I just wanted to make sure those who contemplate this prayer bead don't waste the theory on already cured bud.
     
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  11. stinkytofus

    stinkytofus Well-Known Member

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    The whole point of the wash is not just to wash pesticides away, also dust, and other foreign particles that get stuck on ur cannibis, i just did a wash last night, i lost maybe a 1% of my cannabis,some leaves and crap floated around, but i gota say, my buds looks brighter and better, smells better i will try vaping it after it dries and then vape the other half that i didnt wash and compare

    If it removed some or brokedown some pesticides, even better

    If u have some whack looking, old looking, buds, why not try it, break them in half and wash, compare, and vape separately
     
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  12. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead trance-form

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    How are you gonna dry a wet bud that was previously dried?
     
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  13. stinkytofus

    stinkytofus Well-Known Member

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    That is something i am researching currently, theres various methods, oven, microwave, i am using dried up boveda packs to suck up the moisture and then using blow dryer high heat on low and drying at a distance, there is two camps regarding washing, one thinks its stupid as hell and the other claiming smoother smoke, brighter buds, more smell
     
  14. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead trance-form

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    I've never personally heard of anybody washing after harvest. I've heard of dipping after chopping but not after drying. IMO if you're gonna get the bud wet you might as well go all the way and make bubble hash. If you want a smoother smoke, removing that inactive plant material would go a long way and I bet it will be much easier to dry that hash as you can expose it to more surface area unlike flowers.
     
  15. GreenHopper

    GreenHopper 20 going on 60

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    How are you washing your buds?

    When I did a water cure a year or so ago I submerged the bud in warm RO water using a cafetiere and kept the bud submerged using the plunger.

    I would leave the bud for a day to soak then change the water and repeat until the water was clear and didn't smell.

    The idea was to fast cure freshly cut bud but also was a bit of an experiment to create odourless bud for stealth vaping.

    I don't know if this technique would remove surface pesticides or not, definitely not systemic substances absorbed deep into the plant but it certainly stripped a lot of the terps (good for stealth bad for flavour) and any dust. The THC was fine and plentiful.

    Drying was easy, I just left it on a plate on top of kitchen towel with a small USB fan pointed at it. It actually dried very quickly which apparently is expected when doing a water cure.

    Hope you figure it out bud.
     
  16. stardustsailor

    stardustsailor Well-Known Member Accessory Maker

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    Not many growers around here ,eh ?

    Actually there is a way to -literally- wash away the pesticides /herbicides(systemic or not *)
    as long as the substances to be removed can be diluted in water.

    The method is called "water curing" .
    Google is your best friend.
    Couple of search examples :
    https://www.growweedeasy.com/water-curing-how-to/

    https://www.cannabis.info/en/blog/water-curing-marijuana-buds

    https://www.zamnesia.com/cannabis-grow-guide/123-water-curing


    The dried water-cured buds are very dark in color (from " bronze " to " black tea " )
    and they get "twisted" .
    Because the cured products has lost some of its original mass ( & volume )
    the water cured buds are somewhat more potent than the usual air cured buds
    (same amount of cannabinoids / less mass = Increase of the "xx% THC" figure ).

    Aroma/taste wise ,the water cured buds have a way more subtle aroma than the
    air-cured ones .Vaping them produces stronger effects for the same amount used ,
    while the vapor is very-very-very smooth but not so visible -
    chlorophyl ,starches and sugars ,salts and few minerals are washed away.
    No more "harshness" coming from inhalling them or their byproducts ,but that also means less visible vapor
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    Cheers.
    :2c:

    *
    Using DISTILLED water is OBLIGATORY .
    It takes advantage of the osmotic pressure created inside the bud & leaf cells
    and all the water based substances are "forced" out of the cells to be
    diluted in the ( distilled ) water .
    Actually it takes less than 30 min. for every "wash cycle" to be
    over 90% complete.Two to three wash cycles (changing the water ) are enough
    for a very clean bud .
     
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  17. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead trance-form

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    Have you done a water cure on already dried cannabis flowers? I've read of that done to ABV but never tried that personally.
     
  18. stardustsailor

    stardustsailor Well-Known Member Accessory Maker

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    I've done water curing quite a few times both with fresh-cut buds and also with dried buds.
    Water-curing dry buds is not as simple thing as with water -curing fresh buds.
    And it takes much longer ( 5 to 7 days)
    But it can be done .
    "Search for "water-curing dry buds " .

    Cheers
     
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  19. steama

    steama slightly stoopid

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    You cannot remove toxins from adulterated cannabis. What a smart person does is throw it away...period. Sometimes in life it is much better to take the loss rather than risk it. When we are talking about poisons and pesticides we are talking about things you cannot remove from herb once on it. Sorry and too damn bad.

    :2c:
     
  20. howie105

    howie105 Well-Known Member

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    Its that forum rules thing "Topics concerning the cultivation of cannabis are not permitted." so those conversations often get flagged.
     
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  21. steama

    steama slightly stoopid

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    Who knows? it may already be in the bushes --- I can never tell. Everyone should be concerned about pesticides in herb imo.
     
  22. stinkytofus

    stinkytofus Well-Known Member

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    Whats ur way of drying fast but not heating the buds

    And how do i avoid getting molds
     

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