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Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by marcuss, Jun 29, 2008.

  1. Alexis

    Alexis Well-Known Member

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    @Duck thank you for making that clearer for us. I was confused. Im glad you like your Herbo and that your friend has the Digital for you to try. Sorry I couldn't help.

    @Sick Vape thanks for your input mate. :tup:

    @Duck how long have you had your analogue? Have you tried your friend's DigiTi? Did you notice any slight performance differences? Just curious. So few people have used both units still. Just a couple of us I can hink of, myself and @bleak I think?

    Sorry I also did not understand your pm to me. I think you did not understand my comments in tbis thread that you were asking me about? Well this is what I was referring to:
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    https://youtu.be/966-AVxE5JA (I think our good friend @Hogni may know the blonde haired fella in the Open Mind videos- he is affiliated with VDNM I believe?)




    @Duck Danke, dass Sie das für uns klarer gemacht haben. Ich war verwirrt. Ich bin froh, dass Sie Ihren Herbo mögen und dass Ihr Freund das Digitale für Sie hat, um es auszuprobieren. Entschuldigung, ich konnte nicht helfen. @Sick Vape danke für deinen Input Mate. @Duck wie lange hast du dein analoges gehabt? Haben Sie das DigiTi Ihres Freundes ausprobiert? Haben Sie leichte Leistungsunterschiede bemerkt? Nur neugierig. So wenige Leute haben noch beide Einheiten benutzt. Nur ein paar von uns, an die ich denken kann, ich selbst und @ bleak denke ich? Entschuldigung, ich habe auch Ihre Uhr nicht verstanden. Ich glaube, du hast meine Kommentare in diesem Thread nicht verstanden, nach denen du mich gefragt hast. Nun, das ist, worauf ich mich bezog:
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    (Ich denke, unser guter Freund @Hogni kann den blonden Kerl in den Open Mind-Videos kennen - er ist mit VDNM verbunden, glaube ich?)
     
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  2. Duck

    Duck Member

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    Hi Alexis,
    I only have the analog!
    I asked for someone in the Cannabis-Med Forum...

    I would like to compare them for a report.

    You saw the pictures?
    I could even measure the temperature of the air.

    I can not afford that at the moment.

    the analogue does his job well

    the 3 pads for the screens but I think not good!
    a groove for attachment is better

    OMG
    Open Mind

    I'm not sure that the instructions 1 to 1 to the digital herbo.

    it looks like the same thing ?, but what else has Sebastian changed?
     
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  3. Alexis

    Alexis Well-Known Member

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    Yes I think we should not just assume that both these controllers will work identically when adjusting settings. When I want to adjust my unit, I will ask the boss first, just to be sure I don't mess it up.

    Good effort to measure the air temp. The analogue is definitely good enough, the Digi is a luxury, nothing you are really missing what you have is top notch.

    And I agree, I never liked the pinches in the bowl. If they were closer to the bottom, so the screen was held down tighter, that would be better I think.

    But...it works well enough. The first time I owned the Ti, it bothered me more.
    Last time, it really wasn't a problem.


    Ja, ich denke, wir sollten nicht einfach davon ausgehen, dass diese beiden Controller beim Anpassen der Einstellungen identisch funktionieren. Wenn ich mein Gerät anpassen möchte, werde ich zuerst den Chef fragen, nur um sicher zu sein, dass ich es nicht vermassle. Guter Aufwand, um die Lufttemperatur zu messen. Das Analog ist definitiv gut genug, das Digi ist ein Luxus, nichts, was Ihnen wirklich fehlt, was Sie haben, ist erstklassig. Und ich stimme dir zu, ich habe die Prise in der Schüssel nie gemocht. Wenn sie näher an der Unterseite wären und der Bildschirm enger gehalten würde, wäre das besser, denke ich. Aber es funktioniert gut genug. Als ich das Ti zum ersten Mal besaß, störte es mich mehr. Letztes Mal war es wirklich kein Problem.
     
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  4. Duck

    Duck Member

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    have the instructions flown over times

    the values seem to be the same as the herbo

    Temperature sensor is detected or rejected

    with the competent instructions in German ... that seems pretty easy.

    we will see
    Now you can ask herbo but the right questions, or the distribution in Germany

    the temperature measurement was simple, a paper adapter for the sensor.

    overheat

    https://goo.gl/images/maazYV

    I think if what is wrong with the sensor, he rushes on and on.

    There are no areas between and should.
    so that he can notice the mistake.
    and turns off.
    Maybe I pimp my analog.
     
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  5. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    Hi @Alexis, I know him from YT but don't know whether this Youtuber is affiliated with VDNM. So far as I know he's an ordinary - psychonautic - Youtuber.

    I don't want to derail the thread with a lot of talking about the 1P-LSD. But in short:
    1. It's a LSD (LAD) derivate, a preliminary stage which will be converted to LSD in your body (so far as known)
    2. At least dosage and effects of 1P-LSD shall be the same as those of LSD.
    3. It's - still - legal to sell and buy it in Germany.

    That's nearly all I know. I suggest to open a new thread about if wished to intense this topic.
     
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  6. Alexis

    Alexis Well-Known Member

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    Thanks mate. Sorry I have created a little misunderstanding. I know the science of it very well already. (There is still debate as to whether it is a "prodrug" to be converted, or active itself. But yes, the same thing in effects and all categories perhaps with some slight variation.)

    So nothing more to add from me. My joke about wishing I could understand German- there are lots more YT videos on 1plsd in Germany, and they look WELL WELL happy bruv. :):lol:

    As they should be! As we all should be! We deserve happiness, have been deprived by oppression and control. Psychedelics are as good, or even potentially better for us than cannabis, when used appropriately. In terms of healing potential. It's really not what people think, or have been taught to think creating the stigma and misunderstanding.

    And it's all coming back into the mainstream rapidly now with strong evidence for miraculous potential treating mental health and depression. Im just excited for the future for deep healing of society and individuals as access, knowledge and availability increases.

    Anyway, that is all on it here. Back to Herbo. :rockon:

    GREAT to see life here. Can't wait to have one myself. I have not been in spirit or health to enjoy it of late hence my delay, but Im so glad now that I have seen the warning on VDNM, because that helped me to realise that I am less culpable than I thought so I don't feel so bad about it now.
     
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  7. CAB

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    coming back to the herbo. I am currently considering to buy the new DigiTi and as I am not getting along with the producers webshop, I am considering to switch to the FlowerPot. I found a retailer in the UK that ships the FlowerPot Twax Bundle with a showerhead in the EU (vapefiend).

    Am I making a mistake with that switch? I looked at a lot of test but it is very hard to find a comparison to the new digital version, but the FlowerPot has tremendous feedback in this forum. It seems to be hard to find people that have tried both.

    I am mainly using it with flowers, already owning a mighty, a crafty and some old vapes. I want one hot extraction with great taste. Honestly it is just my impatience making me want to switch and I fear to regret it.
     
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  8. Alexis

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    Okay, I understand your dilemna. To put it in a nutshell both vaporizers are outstanding flower extractors with exceptional vapor quality and equally good taste.

    For flower alone, it can and has definitely been argued that the herborizer has slightly better flavour and possibly also vapour quality, but also that the effects are slightly heavier and longer lasting with a more sedating profile.

    From my own personal trials with the Flowerpot, which I totally fell in love with because it is an excellent and fun vaporizer system to use I did find that I was going through quite a lot of material compared to the herborizer where I feel it is quite underrated in terms of your bang for buck regarding longevity of effects from your herb.

    For me personally having tried both devices I think the herborizer does have better and pure flavour and is also smoother and does have a heavier and longer lasting effect.

    I have not tried the newest version of the flowerpot however, the Vrod. This system would be considered as superior to the Herborizer setup for concentrates and would also enable double deckers. It would possibly be favoured by somebody who was more interested or primarily interested in vaporizing concentrates more often.

    But for flower performance alone if you are after the absolute best flavour and vapor quality then I think the Herborizer still just about pips it.

    Unfortunately there is not very much information or videos out there particularly about the digital version. It performes very well and I think is an improvement. The analogue model, everything I say above I say in reference to that model as well with the digital just being slightly more advanced and Powerful and consistent perhaps.

    I'm not sure what you mean regarding problems with the manufacturers website but if there is anything specifically we can help with there please ask.

    This vaporizer system is actually so simple but effective that there really isn't much to be said about it which is ironic considering how good it is and still very unknown.
    I'm pretty high atm, and my sensible credits have been used up in this post but I hope something there is helpful. Maybe I can add some more when my brain recovers from this exertion lol! :lol:
     
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  9. ShedDweller

    ShedDweller Well-Known Member

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    My VAS feeling for a 14mm digiTi kit is rather uncontrollable at the moment. I'm trying very very hard not to spend all my money.
    Damn they look so good.
     
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  10. Lozo

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    @ShedDweller ah me too! I don't need it but I would love to own one. Am I right in saying that the kit is everything but minus the glass?
     
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  11. Alexis

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    Pretty much. Except the stand for the injector is also sold separately but is not compulsory and you could possibly find something else to rest the heater in or you can even use another 18 mm female bubbler or adaptor joint sitting on top of a water piece for example.

    If I did not have the stand myself I think I would probably have a small designated bubbler or rusting the heater in during use and in general. That is what I did the first time I owned the Ti.

    Im going to be getting one of these vapes myself soon! Well, I have one but I stupidly broke it. But today, I at long last plucked up the balls as we say to email the inventor about returning my unit for hopeful repair.

    Whatever happens I will get me unoperational Ti if the digital is not repairable I will just get an analogue system. And I'm actually very excited because this will be like getting a new vaporizer having missed it for many months not having been well enough or confident enough for the task of sending it back and explaining etc.

    So, good day! Im hoping Seb just says...send it down boy. And that it is an easy, cheapish fix.
    We'll see. Such a great vape. Vapecritic loves it. Flavour and effects supreme.
     
  12. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    Totally agree with the statement of @Alexis, except the stand. The stand with the heavy stainless base is a must-have IMO. The heater tends to turn over pretty fast with a lighter stand - so do not risk to burn down your house. And the stainless one is also a nice pairing with the beauty of Herbo ti. But don't buy any of the trate accessories Herborizer is offering. They all are not worth the money. And have in mind that all the glass parts are breaking pretty fast - and replacements are expensive. So if you are breaking glass pretty fast and have to take care for your money better go with the FP.
     
  13. Alexis

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    Hey @Hogni hoping all is well. Thanks for chiming in with your own reason and perspective.
    Can't disagree obviously, it's a joke really isn't it? I mean Im still a Ti novice, yet I seem to think I own this thread lol.

    Only thing I would question is the glass breaking being a reason to avoid the Ti in favour of the Flowerpot. I really don't think this is actually such a big deal or a great expense over time which is worth factoring into the decision making process.

    Of course some people are particularly prone to breaking things especially glass and indeed there are cases where it is warranted to go the more practical and robust route.

    But apart from the occasional dummy (;)) having an accident with the stand, Ive not heard many of any reports of bowls breaking. They seem pretty sturdy.
    The most vulnerable bit seems to be the glass heater housing for the herb mode. I dont worry about this small part myself. You just need to be careful with assembly and cleaning.

    I have a spare and it is only €12 so if you broke 2 over the course of your first 2 years, even that wouldn't be so bad. But definitely a good idea for any overseas customers to get at least one spare of this piece. Great tip there, I will have to start including that in my online Ti promotional campaigns! :D
     
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  14. Sick Vape

    Sick Vape Solar Dabs

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    Hi @Alexis:wave: I read, that at a moment you were interested in a glass symphony.
    Now it seems to me, you are favouring the Herbo Ti. Why?
    Did you get to try the GS too? What were your experiences? I mean they are both obviously great convection vaporizers, one is bigger more glass, one is smaller. I think I read that you find the Ti has a little more sedating effect. How did your body react?
     
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  15. Alexis

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    Hi mate. Well I only used the Glass Symphony for one day and I could not tolerate it one little bit just a severe allergic type reaction no matter what temperature and approach I took.

    I suffered horrendously to use it for that one day it's impossible really to gauge a fair impression of it and to compare it to the Herborizer.
    However I did suffer an equally severe allergic reaction to the Flowerpot and from the very first draw I took of that vaporizer I really loved it and was really gutted that I couldn't tolerate it.

    I really wasn't that bothered about not being able to handle the Glass Symphony and was quite happy to let it go. So I'm not sure whether or not that tells us anything. There are certainly members on this forum who have the absolute highest of regard for the Glass Symphony as the heaviest flower hitter they have experienced.

    I think there is so little to call between these top tier desktops battling it out for world supremacy and acclaim. What the Herbo has is such a neat, smart, tidy and miniature design. Particularly vs the GS.

    You could ask the same Q in the GS thread, in as open a manner as possible, like "I am interested in learning more about this vaporizer and would be interested in hearing other's experience of how it differs and compares to other similar top tier desktops, such as Herborizer Ti and Flowerpot."

    Or even start a new thread? Its a valid and fair enquiry. Im sure there would be some input whichever way. However the GS inventor can be a pretty strict headmaster keeping his thread strictly on track. He may object to a reasonable (IMO) comparison enquiry.

    Sorry I can't give more useful feedback.
     
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  16. rflq

    rflq New Member

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    Hello guys,

    so I got my hands on a digiTi (barely used) for a pretty good price and bought a bubbler for it + ordered the stand. I'm coming from a volcano and I'm not sure what to expect. According to what I've read it's supposedly way harder hitting than the Volcano ever could?
     
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  17. ubardog

    ubardog Well-Known Member

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    @Alexis !!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

     
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  18. Alexis

    Alexis Well-Known Member

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    I never used a 'cano personally, but I have esrablished a pretty good idea and guage of how certain vapes compare and contrast.

    I believe I can say pretty categorocally though, that the Herbo Ti is indeed a big step up from the Volcano. On all fronts, such us vapor quality, pure clean flavour, and effects.

    But is this really an enquiry you actually need an answer to? Right, @ubardog ? ;)

    Just be content now that you have picked up one of the very top desktop vaporizers available.
    And enjoy! Have fun getting to know your new toy, then please by all means do come back and share your experiences with us on how the 2 vapes compare etc, fire any Q's.

    And of course, Welcome to FC friend. Wishing you nothing but happiness here. :)
     
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  19. rflq

    rflq New Member

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    Thanks for the nice welcome!

    I'll certainly report back next week (stupid shipping) and give you guys a comparison. I did not opt to buy a glass piece from Herborizer direct, but a small Bubbler myself. Hope that's not gonna matter too much. I'm just not sure if I should've went with a bong or a bubbler. Considering I'm not used to giant hits I opted for the Bubbler instead.

    You guys got me all hyped now!
     
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  20. Alexis

    Alexis Well-Known Member

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    You're welcome dude, always nice to have a bright, positive smiling face join us all here.
    Regarding glass options- you really can't go wrong with this vape it just works and extracts so well and easily with effortless draw flow that it pairs with virtually anything that will work to suck the vapor through.

    So you just need something to get up and runny but over time you may wish to try different glass pieces or even dry options out which are very popular with this specific vaporizer.

    Each piece may slightly affect or alter the experience and extraction. Also the way that you approach a session and take your hits etc may vary with different pieces so it's nice to have some options for different occasions and some take more lung power than others and vice versa but maybe cooler for bigger hits for example.

    But like I say, you can't really go wrong with the Herborizer Ti. I think there are probably quite a few vaporists who would really appreciate a DigiTi in their lives right now. You will be tne envy of many, so please make sure you come back and share your experience and hopeful joy. :nod:
    I look forward to hearing more...:popcorn:
     
  21. rflq

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    Hello guys, I'm reporting back!

    So yeah, this bad boy packs quite the punch.
    Gotta get used to the Bubbler experience and how to time it just right, but I'm blown away.

    The effects are there, even with a miniscule amount (.05) it still delivers. Instant smile on your face guarantee!

    The biggest difference compared to the Volcano would be the amount (minimum for volcano without chamber reducer would be 0.15-0.20) and that it just delivers it all at once. Volcano sessions are long and drawn out. You refill the balloons over and over and slowly get to your desired feeling. The filtration through the water is obviously bad for the taste, but it does wonders for the humidity, obviously. I used to own a filtration device for the Volcano as well, so overall it's still nicer to hit.


    The heat-up time on the digiTi is quite fast. It takes about 2 1/2 minutes to get to 350. The "coil" (the thing you put into the glass piece) gets warm after leaving it on for a longer period of time, but you can still touch it without any problems. There's nothing to worry about there.

    The purchase included the eNail, which I won't be able to comment on. So if anyone is looking for an eNail really cheap - hit me up. :)
     
  22. Alexis

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    Thanks man you didnt let me down, a great fun and uplifting report as I munch down my popcorn and seek some peace of mind for the day.

    Crucially, Im really glad you are enjoying it. It sounds like a successful improvenent to your vaping experience, and a well worth purchase.

    Good stuff bro, thanks so much for sharing. Im afraid I'm too tired right now to provide any useful constructive advice, but it sounds like you've got everything figured. Not much to it with the Ti really is there?

    It just works, and I'm sure that's why this thread is so quiet because the majority of owners experience no difficulties getting maximum performance and enjoyment out of the device, and simply go on living happily ever after lol in the comfort of their own homes.

    Keep on enjoying bro, hope to see you back here again have fun. :tup:
     
  23. MAbud

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    Morning all. Looking for a little help. I currently have an EVO and NV FP but the digital Ti has me intrigued...

    I am struggling to understand the heborizer site though. As I already have an Auber control box I don’t think I need the whole Ti system. What exactly would I need? I prefer the exact dial in of the digital to the analog version. Thanks!
     
  24. Alexis

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    I don't think you will be able to use your own controller with the DigiTi. I have an Auber controller myself and I'm pretty sure it would not be compatible with my DigiTi.

    I did post something about the pin layouts after others inquired somewhere back in this thread with a photograph. I'm not at all technical minded and get bemused and boggled over these things. My DigiTi is currently packed up in a box ready to be sent back for repair so I can't check it right now.

    But I think you will basically need the system for it to work properly unless you can configure something or there is actually a way to connect to another controller because I'm not sure about this at all.

    @MAbud here is that post bro:
    http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/herborizer-corner.83/page-89#post-1297365
     
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