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Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by marcuss, Jun 29, 2008.

  1. Pustupillo

    Pustupillo Vaporizing > Smoking

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    Why you wanna vape in a so Little bubbler? I just took an ehle 500ml+precooler and im f.....ing amazed. My ti milks it so fast and dense... And is just more gentle with the throat and lungs, still same effect and flavour compared with a smaller glass like my dhgate fake mobius style bubbler. i've found the pefect setup finally.

    PS the style of that grav lab concept is really cool, you made it Carlos?

    Edit lol no you found it in grav lab website and yes im pretty stoned atm ahahaha. Just had my before bed vaping session
     
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  2. stickstones

    stickstones Vapor concierge Retailer

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    There are cheap versions on dhgate
     
  3. MrMonss

    MrMonss Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG]

    @Carlos8400 It does not have the same perc as yours, but you can choose between matrix, showerhead, etc..
    The difficulty will be how to maintain it, once filled with water and with the injector mounted on it.
    But price is only 10-20$ shipped.

    http://www.dhgate.com/product/14cm-glass-bongs-water-pipes-joint-18-8mm/270330413.html

    http://www.dhgate.com/product/hot-sell-new-6-arm-perc-glass-percolator/228923897.html

    Or a Steamroller with carb hole juste like yours.. (can't post the link as it's counterfeiting)
    [​IMG]

    One more thing about the claisen adapters that i forgot :
    Very useful for carb but could also temporarily replace the main bowl in case of breakage (you'll need a filter grill) BUT could also replace the need of a stand, using the part with the carb to rest the injector while stirring or filling.. You'll just have to wait a bit before replacing the carb, otherwise it may get stuck due to heat.

    [​IMG]

    :peace:
     
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  4. Carlos8400

    Carlos8400 Well-Known Member

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    Wow, thanks guys! @MrMonss i am getting one right now!

    @Pustupillo

    When i first switched to vaping i was trying to copy my bong smoking experience, so i would vape at high temp with big beakers,big tubes and a lot of diffusion. For some reason i never really liked the feel of vapor in these kind of rigs. I think this is because vapor doesn't expand as much as smoke and doesn't have the same thickness. I quickly realized that less heat, less air volume and less filtration felt much better to me.
    I have a GravLabs hammer like the one i posted, and really enjoyed it when i still combusted, i just wanted to try one with vapor!
     
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  5. Techn!d0n

    Techn!d0n Well-Known Member

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    Can we get some other vids. I'm dying to see this vape in action... On the verge with VAS
     
  6. Zow237

    Zow237 Well-Known Member

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    I made one the other day I'll upload it when I get home
     
  7. Joaon

    Joaon Well-Known Member

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    Hi buddies :wave:

    I've contacted a few company which makes cartridge heaters, asking about those heaters with thermocouple, to use the Herborizer(s) with (12v!) PID controlers, and so have precise control on temps!
    Whatever Chinese or French company, they want a bulk/wholesale, 5 units seems the minimum.

    So, would some of you be interested in a 12v Heater/PID Controler kit for Herborizer ?
    The XL ? The TI ? Both ?

    Or is it pure insanity, and I'm commiting blasphemy ? :science:


    The fact is, I would really love to have the XL, the Ti, the FlowerPot (and Glass Symphony??..) all tuned to relative temperature, and drop exact same amount on each and compare them :ninja:
     
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  8. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    Nice idea! Is there a difference to regular enail controllers? I guess yes bc you told about 12V?

    Will start to go to the city for fetching my Herb Ti the next hour.....;)
     
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  9. Joaon

    Joaon Well-Known Member

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    Yes and no..
    Yes, because it would be 12V DC because herborizer was designed this way, instead of 'regular' 120/230V AC coils as you said.
    I think power consumption will be lower.. And the ability to use the controller directly on batteries/solar systems/etc..

    But in fine, there would no be big difference in usage -> Power on, set temp, wait reach, hit.

    The interest will be in a slightly faster heat up (I hope), a temperature feedback and so, more stable extraction


    Welcome and cherish well your Ti :cool:
    I really liked the first heatups, seeing those color changes :luv:
     
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  10. MrMonss

    MrMonss Well-Known Member

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    I can be interested, depending on the price and the object. Not knowing much about it.
    But if there's a way to adapt a coil to heat a vapcap there it can become very tempting.
     
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  11. Joaon

    Joaon Well-Known Member

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    This will just looks like your regular Herborizer, with a new cartridge heater that have temp probe in it,
    the all thing powered by a 12v Pid controller, similar to Enail Controler :

    [​IMG]

    About price, I'm roughtly at $100 at this moment, but that's with $50 of heater..
    I think we can have a better price ..
     
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  12. Zow237

    Zow237 Well-Known Member

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    I'd be interested to hook mine up to my rdk200 :)
     
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  13. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    Got it! 2 runs of testing absolved: smooth - delicious - vapor (nearly) how much you want.
    Virgin run at 5, 2nd at 4.5-6. 10-15 minutes pre-heating

    Testing will go on today...tonight...
     
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  14. Zow237

    Zow237 Well-Known Member

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  15. Alexis

    Alexis Open minded philosopher and realist.

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    Dude, it took me a while watching your video to realise that it is on repeat! I was thinking "geez, do you rreally need ANOTHER hit?" :lol:

    It is actually a very good clip, because it shows very clearly how open and fast the airflow is with the Ti.
    And you clearly see the hit size not being affected by this, and also how the bubbler is milked much less compared to all of the flowerpot vids.

    @Hogni , Im really glad you got your Ti and are enjoying it. Im so sorry about your Supreme disappointment. I hope that gets sorted with a happy outcome.
    In a way it isn't a bad thing, as you are now less overwhelmed with new toys, torn between them. Can take your time with the Ti now and get to know her until the Supreme shows up. :)

    Now, I have confession to make. This might not go down well, so please be gentle.
    Right, here goes- last week I made a sudden decision to sell my Ti! It just wasn't suiting my allergies amd respiratory issues.
    I tried the EQ basket screen as suggested by @Alan Partridge , this made no noticeable difference.
    I can use the Ti, but I have to go through so much more suffering managing my symptoms.

    So my friend Dave now has it. He said I can have it back any time, I can certainly try it down the line.
    I dont really understand why the reaction is so much worse than the XL.
    I can take huge lung buster clluds on the XL, and a tiny invisible cloud on the Ti will cause more bother and discomfort, even though Im only taking in a fraction of the cannabinoids.

    Doesn't make sense!:hmm: Its as if Im rracting to something other than the weed, but the Titanium in my Omnivap isn't a problem.

    I notice that the herb vaped with the Ti has a very distinctive and unusual odor to it. Not bad, just very recognizable, and different to my other vapes.

    I do feel that there are many more subtle variables involved that we are far from understanding, which could explain my variable reactions to different vapes, that has little to do with the weed itself.
     
  16. Zow237

    Zow237 Well-Known Member

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    The second clip shows how it can get as milked as fp imo
     
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  17. Joaon

    Joaon Well-Known Member

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    To use it with RDK200, we would need to find a 120V/240V AC heater element with thermocouple,

    Otherwise Auber also have a 12V DC solution that would work with the heaters I mind, the RDK-150-DC


    Nice videos ;) The second really shows the capacity of the Ti :tup::D
     
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  18. Zow237

    Zow237 Well-Known Member

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    First load is just a lil bit in the bowl as you can see and then the 2nd is a full bowl :)
     
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  19. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    Continued testing yesterday evening but only two bowls. Couldn't do more bc effects were too impressive already with 0.15 g. Guess will go down to 0.1g. But it was really a fine stuff (Dinachem, a Chemdawg inbreed line, original genetic (clone) of a IC mag cup winner of 2015, harvested 2 weeks former, so it's a different buzz than one of a full ripened plant, a clear, head stimulating rush with a trippy aura pretty much sativa like but very relaxed with nearly no body too)

    The Herb Ti is really a hitter but more a smooth creeping bang. Sooo smooth, nearly no irritation of my pretty sensitive bronchia although the weed was uncured.

    Taste is delicious. Flavourful hits the whole bowl when set at 4-4.5 but with more wispy vapour Increased temp up to 5.5 the last two hits. Seems to be the right way for me but need more experiments.

    Up to now (after 5 bowls) I'm very satisfied with the Herb Ti.
    Have to test different setups. Yesterday I was only working with the FC-Ufo. Nearly no draw resistance, nearly too less for my liking. Will try another setup today may be the FC 710.

    Like design of the Herb Ti too. Small, light, clear lined design even the small analog controller is nice.

    Temnperature of the new handle remains comfortably. After 3 hours of continuous running temperature didn't reach more than 40-45°C I guess. Needs no more protection.

    So, just first impression....

    @Alexis, appreciate your warm words and wishes.

    You are right. Just enjoying all my VC so much - and more - with my new Pipe's Induction Heater,the Venus Apollo has to be discovered more also and my GH which was changed yesterday into a new one too I didn't even try up to now. So I don't miss my Supreme really but irritated what happened to it. Addressee is still on vacation.

    Buddy, sorry to hear that the Herb Ti isn't also working for you! :ugh:

    Guess your next try will be the Glass Symphony? ;)
    If this all-glass setup will also not work for you I don't know anymore. Good luck! :tup:
     
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  20. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    I will try and get a vid up using my large Roor bubbler this weekend! Pure whitewall!
    Just needs a cleaning first...
     
  21. Alexis

    Alexis Open minded philosopher and realist.

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    Thank you Hogni for your friendly and also very understanding words. You have a great perception and can always relate to others' circumstances and see things from their point of view. :tup:

    It is no issue to be honest that I had to let the Ti go. First world problems! ;)
    I would like to be able to tolerate it obviously. I didn't exactly need it, I have the XL and the Omnivap, 2 great vaporizers most would be thrilled with.

    It's just that, I wanted something more exciting/current, and like you I want the best!
    Since going back to the XL, I realise that it is a really good vaporizer. So different from the Ti.
    If the XL would work as well for huge clouds with less bud, without going too hot for me, it would be far more satisfying.

    I am using loads of 0.3 to 0.5 grams mostly, spread over 2 sessions. The sessions ae a little too protracted and drawn out for my liking, the Ti is the other extreme- it was over so quick!

    A middle ground would be nice. However, I definitely find the taste in the XL to be superior to the Ti. The XL is unquestionably the best tasting vapor I ever tried. Even on low temps the Ti did not give anywhere near the same flavor.

    Not trying to be critical, just observing the differences.

    I got all my money back anyway on the Ti. I could have listed it here for over £300 I believe with the whole kit, but Im happy.
    I only lost a little on the Supreme, so I will keep trying vapes in the bame of fun and improving things.

    Yes the Glass Symphony is right up there and an obvious choice for the all glass. No way to react to anything except the weed and the nature of the vapor. I will certainly be able to draw some conclusions from it. If it is not tolerable then I can theorize why and how.

    I am not rushing just yet. Still too much infections from low immunity, so my chest and allergies are on top still, hard to enjoy my vapor. Also I have to consider that the real big, fast extraction heavy hitters may not be any good for me, vaporizer materials aside.

    When I am ready I will be able to learn this for sure with the Glass Symphony, but not rushing when there is a strong chance it will be too much for me.

    Actually, I did already impulsively buy a new vaporizer. A different style, capable of gentle vaping and also a heavy hitter. However, I can't say anything about the purchase just yet for a specific reason. I haven't received it yet but am pretty excited. It should be no problem allergy wise. I have to keep it secret until a technical matter is resolved.

    When hopefully I am better and can raise some more vaporizer budget, I hope to get the Symphony too. Variety is nice with vaporizers and definitely adds to the experience IMO.

    @Hogni , that is very good to hear you are really pleased with the Ti so far, and Im glad you can see the light in not having the Supreme yet and being too overloaded so you can have more freedom getting acquainted with the others.

    The Vapcap induction heater is great isn't it? Just about to have my first vape of the day with it and some Durban Poison. Our Autoflowers are simply AMAZING so far, best we ever done yet. Just 5 weeks max for most of them. Just need enough summer, and to keep bud rot at bay and should have a bumper of lovely weed to enjoy, nice variety too.

    Looking good for 70 to 100 grams per auto on very minimal nutrition and UK weather.

    We use filtered and "magnetised" water, using the South Pole side of a "Norstar magnetic water coaster" to stand the watering can on.

    South pole stimulates and boosts plant growth, health and yield massively. It really worls honestly, 100%. A great trick for any grower.

    Also, more unusual, we use this stuff called "orgonite". A mix of gemstones and metals, it enhances the power of the crystals and has an energy cleaning effect on the surroundings and life forms, neutralising EMF's and cleaning bad energy up.

    Orgonite supposedly enhances the "Chi" or "life force" of living things, especially plants.
    My mum is an expert gardener. Since we used orgonite last year everything has thrived like never before, especially the Autoflowers!

    Here are 2 links. This one is a photos of a gardening experiment with and without orgonite:
    http://orgone-art.all4orgone.com/anglais/visibleeffectgarden2.htm

    Here is some general info about how to use orgonite:
    http://www.bargainorgonite.com/?page_id=782&lang=en

    Have a look and please share with any farmers you know, of any plant type. Not all orgonite is made equally effectively. We know 2 sellers who make the proper stuff. One in UK, one in Portugal. I will link them below. There are very many others too, we know these ones are legit though. You can also make the orgonite yourself for cheap. Instructions online.

    http://photonorgone.co.uk/
    https://www.orgonita.eu/

    That's all folks. I swear Im not crazy (about this stuff at least), I mean Im clearly a nutcase in general!;)

    Everyone have a super weekend, wherever you are and whichever vapes you are enjoying.:)
     
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  22. Alan Partridge

    Alan Partridge Smell my cheese

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    Are vapes bought at lavapourcentrale cursed so the buyer will never keep them :lol: Shame you didn't get on with it @Alexis !
     
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  23. Alexis

    Alexis Open minded philosopher and realist.

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    :lol: Oh well, it just wasn't to be. But you have to admire my resolve to keep trying, "Nothing ventured..."
    No big loss in truth, always another door to open, and I am really excited about my new (secret) vaporizer coming.

    Conversely Alan, Im really glad that the Ti is working out so well for you, and the FP now too. I take pleasure in the happiness of others at all times.:tup:
     
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  24. Techn!d0n

    Techn!d0n Well-Known Member

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    Thanks nice milks on that second vid!!! VAS is off the charts with this one... Now if they only had a sale...

    Awesome.... This little monster seems under rated....
     
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  25. Alexis

    Alexis Open minded philosopher and realist.

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    Have you checked out Lacentralevapeur? It seems that they always have a sale on. Best price on the herbo anywhere I believe, plus there is a 10% fc discount.
     
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