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Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by marcuss, Jun 29, 2008.

  1. My3yezrr3d

    My3yezrr3d Member

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    I recently purchased an Herborizer XL 14.5mm, and when I try to plug it in to heat it up, the connection between the heating element and the dial short circuits, melting the plastic. If I angle the connection between the injector and the dial in a certain way I can get the heating element to actually heat up, but it's a pain to do. I had both of the parts replaced, but I am having the same problem. Is this a common issue with Herborizers?

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  2. Jurassic

    Jurassic Active Member

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    I don't think so, contact Sebastien again.
  3. hanfhead

    hanfhead is high

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    Ok. I didn't get an alert to this thread until now, hopefully you come back and check.
    I just took some pics with my phone to try to explain this. There is a bent pin inside the injector side (female) of the plug, the outer connection. Most plugs like this have a flat piece of metal but these diy ends on the herborizer have a small round bent pin. Unplug your injector from the box with the knob and look in the end. Does it look like the pin is bent so that it connects correctly or is there a possibility it is shorting out with the center pin?

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    Now if you are unable to get the pin realigned you can fix this yourself fairly easily. Sebastian will gladly send you ends if you let him know you are having a problem, or you can probably find a better one if you look online or locally. He sent my friend a pack of five and I got one of those from him. I have removed my end twice now to pull the heater out and soak the glass. All you have to do is unscrew the plastic cover and desolder the wires from the connector. I also remember having to cut off the old heatshrink and reapply it. Next time I clean it I will replace my end for the first time. The melt on my connector is because my bong is stemless and the injector sits straight up and the cord sometimes rests on it if I am not paying attention.

    edit: Almost forgot. If you do solder it, do it on HOT and do it fast. The last time I did mine the plastic that separates the outer part from the center pin melted a little and the center pin is misaligned and it is harder to unplug. Do not let the plug warm up, and I would suggest letting it cool down in between doing the center and outer connections.

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    Just noticed you said both parts have been replaced. Maybe be more gentle unlplugging that connection or don't disconnect it at that point. Also as I said, maybe find a more sturdy connector and replace it. I have never had that problem with mine. Once I thought it wasn't heating up and someone here suggested that may be the problem. I checked my pin and bent it out a little more. Haven't had a problem since and it's been about 3 years.
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  4. Jurassic

    Jurassic Active Member

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    Hey man, wow old post but I know you owned the VXC too and was wondering if you can compare it to the Herbo? I already seen the VXC vs VHW comprehensive post/comparison and ruled the VHW out, but i'm at a toss up between VXC and the Herbo XL. Sorry to hear about your VXC getting water in it and dying, ouch.
  5. spacelooper

    spacelooper Well-Known Member

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    Hey guys,

    I'm very tempted by the Herborizer. I currently have the SSV and the MFLB. The SSV is what I use 99.9% of time..and I am happy with the results I have always gotten from it... it has really only been recently that I have gotten what I consider really good results from the MFLB. I was having issues of the launch box, burning the herb, even though finely grounded etc... anyway, I am wanting to get back to glass bongs... so I am looking for the best option for GonG bongs. I am considering the LSV but the Herborizer looks on paper like a perfect fit. Is it too good to be true? I am a stickler about NOT getting the flower too dark.. my SSV vaped matter is a very light brown... I don't like to get soo close to combustion. How flexible is the Herbo in that regard? I also have read things on here about cracking etc. Some of these pots are older so wasn't sure what the current verdict on the Herbo is.. it sure looks intriguing to me though..
    thanks for any info on this guys...
  6. Stu

    Stu Maconheiro Staff Member

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    Have you tried vaporbonging with your SSV? Just throw a WPA on the whip and go to town. Even better would be a hands free setup with the GG wand.

    You don't "need" a wand vaporizer to have great vaporbong sessions IMO.
    :2c:
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  7. spacelooper

    spacelooper Well-Known Member

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    I've ordered the WPA for the SSV and am sure it will be great. I do, however, want to get rid of the whip aspect of the set up. I am looking for a total glass on glass experience... or at least no silicone/plastics etc.
  8. spacelooper

    spacelooper Well-Known Member

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    I would have thought there would have been some guys on this forum with the Herborizer. It is really hard to find anything definitive on this piece to justify the 365 price tag. I have read guys on here talk about wiring issues and even taste issues. I am very intrigued by this vape but would like to hear a bit more about it...
  9. SoulCaptivesAreFree

    SoulCaptivesAreFree Hazemaniac

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    I can't get why this thread is dead and others get so much more action...

    For me the herborizer is one of the best vaporizers out there! i got my xl system exactly six days ago and i'm so freakin happy about it, it's unbelievable :D i really love my VHW but in the past days i learned that i actually prefer the herbo, for me it's like this:

    -herbo is a great design, it's small and elegant :)

    -taste is really good (9 out of 10) and the best thing about it: the taste lasts! i can get over ten hits of just the right size with plenty of visible vapor that really taste like the strain (not generic vaped weed taste or even worse popcorn taste). The same amount of herb would give me 3 maybe 4 tasty hits with the vhw.

    -it is very efficient in the sense that I think it gets a high % of the cannabinoids extracted, oth the bowl is quite big and you need 0,1+g for one session

    -free hands. i can't stress how much i enjoy this benefit, with the herbo i can lay back and just vape for as long as i like. The vhw sessions always were too short and too stiff for my liking - they got me super wasted but always would leave me craving another hit of thick, tasty vapor. with the herbo i vape until my throat start getting too dry and i don't want any more vapor.

    -the smell issue: yes there is a noticeable bad smell when turning it on for the first time. After letting it burn in for 30-40 minutes on the highest setting the smell was basically gone. The first bowl had a really slight trace of this smell in the taste but hardly detectable and with the second bowl it already tasted completely neutral like i expected. I noticed the smell one or two more days when turning it on but only very faint and by now it is completely gone - i really wouldn't worry about it, to me it seemed very normal and certainly not toxic or anything, just the steel and the silicone heating up for the first time.

    -the broken injectors: sebastien seems to have figured out a way to avoid this issue permanently. He just added a small glass bead to keep the heating element at distance from the glass cover - seems to work as far as i can tell.

    Overall i'm really happy with my herbo and have not one second regreted my decision to get it.

    Something i'd like to see in the future is a smaller bowl. already am thinking about having one custom made :D but would be great for any herbo owner i think...

    here's a pic of my setup:

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    it's so smooth and tasty! :)
  10. TheDudeNextDoor

    TheDudeNextDoor Abiding

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    Can anybody compare this to the Cloud in terms of usability and effectiveness? My friend has a Cloud and I don't know why, but that thing seems to get you flying high more than any other vape I have tried. I have no idea why that is, but I have experienced it first-hand. On the other hand, $500+ is pretty stout. I note I can get the basic XL unit here for about $330, and I already have several pieces of glass to use.

    So can anybody offer a comparison?

    Oh and ... VHW = Vriptech Heat Wand?
  11. SoulCaptivesAreFree

    SoulCaptivesAreFree Hazemaniac

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    Yeah, VHW = Vriptech Heat Wand :)

    Sorry can't compare it to the VXC, as i'm in europe and we still have to wait for the international version of the cloud to be released... But i can tell you that i bought the herbo only after reading that the international version of the cloud will not be out by christmas: so i bought the herbo to hold me over the waiting time... now, today i'm not sure i'll buy the cloud as soon as it comes out... i'm just so satisfied with the herbo i don't see me needing another home-unit besides it!


    The sessions with my herbo are so freakin amazing, the taste lasts and lasts and lasts and lasts and lasts and lasts, and wait is there still coming vapor? oh yes it is, and a nice cloud too! but it's at least the 20th pull i made? and i put in like 0,1g?

    Amazing! simply amazing! :)



    I always thought you were exaggerating a little with the 27 hits :D but i see you were just telling it as it is :)
  12. ghost>boogie on

    ghost>boogie on iko-iko all day

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    color me interested. what's the deal with the website?
    nothing seems secure, none of the prices are in $$$.
    are there any good vids? i jumped in around page 14.
    woot
  13. Cereal_MF

    Cereal_MF ~Quantum Soup~

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    Id consider getting this thing as it truely is scientific beyond the norm and whoever said it looks like an alchemical piece of equiptment is on point! Just seems like problems with it are fairly common... and the cheapest package is around 500 correct?
  14. SoulCaptivesAreFree

    SoulCaptivesAreFree Hazemaniac

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    ghost: no idea about their webpage, i ordered from a retailer... you should find a couple of vids on youtube, and on page 10 in this thread there is a nice gif of the combo peyote pillar + herborizer ;)

    cereal: yeah i really dig the design, i find myself staring at my pipe+herbo a lot when blazed :D i don't think faulty units are that big of a concern... the issue of the broken injectors seems solved and even if there is a problem - i think the way sebastien handled the broken injectors shows that he stands behind his product :)

    don't know about prices in the US but in europe it's 160 euro for the basic kit and 260 for the xl...

    phew that took too long to write that post :D i guess i'm higher than anticipated :D
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  15. Cereal_MF

    Cereal_MF ~Quantum Soup~

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    Hopefully u werent writing it on a phone. That would be torturous!
  16. SoulCaptivesAreFree

    SoulCaptivesAreFree Hazemaniac

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    hehe... nope - not my style :D

    and that post took me like half an hour even on my laptop... just too high and too tired (my daughter woke me at 3:30 am and it's now 10 pm) and also english is a second language for me which doesn't make it any easier ;)

    but to not be completely off topic: time to load another one!

    set herbo on 5,5, grind some jack flash, load up and


    enjoy!
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  17. Smokey

    Smokey Cloud Master

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    It's been a while now since I've been around here :) But I'm glad our Herbo is receiving more love, although less than deserved, but who cares. It's 1,5 years now, and it is still my everyday vape, I hardly use my MFLB anymore, that's a bit sad since I really love its design and philosophy, but while @ home, there's nothing better than sitting on my couch and enjoy my cloudy herbo...even in its basic form it's so efficient and satisfying. I'm thinking about buying some extra glass, cause I like to play around different shapes and draws. Peace, Herbo-fellas!
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  18. max

    max This space available Staff Member

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    There's Vaposhop.com (the link here gets you 10% off- http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/retailer-discussion-discounts.1802/), or Everyonedoesit.com

    Nobody would ever know. You write better than some members we get who speak only English (hopefully they speak it better than they write it ;) )
  19. SoulCaptivesAreFree

    SoulCaptivesAreFree Hazemaniac

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    Smokey: Good to see you back on the thread! and great to hear you're still happy with your herbo! Have you ever had the chance to try the xl-model to compare? would love to know which position on the xl-scale corresponds to the temperature of the basic... if it's anywhere near 5,5 (or more accurate: 5,66) i wouldn't really need the xl - though it's nice to be able to adjust temp for hash or strains that have a different sweet spot...





    Thanks :)

    I do have a BA in english and american studies, so it's kind of my job to pretend i can speak english :D
  20. Smokey

    Smokey Cloud Master

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    I'm sorry but I've never had the chance to try the XL model...although if one day my basic will die (hope not) I for sure get the XL, because of the extra options you get, like you said.
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  21. SoulCaptivesAreFree

    SoulCaptivesAreFree Hazemaniac

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    i found the manual for the herborizer xl online:

    azarius.net/media/manuals/manual-herborizer-xl-vaporizer.pdf

    so the basic model runs on what is 6 on xl version... that is spot on for me. i started out at 5.5 and continously climbed up to what would be 5.8 or 5.9, but 6 is just fine too ;)

    here's the temperature scale of the herbo manual:

    1 – 90°c
    2 – 110°c
    3 – 130°c
    4 – 150°c
    5 – 180°c
    6 – 190°c
    7 – 200°c
    8 – 210°c
    9 – 220°c
    10 –230°c

    ok now back to the pipe, got a silver pearl + destroyer blend in the bowl - should send me into the realms of the dreams soon :D
  22. bleak

    bleak Well-Known Member

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    Finally got a Herborizer XL kit back in my hands, after a couple of years without one (I have an XL sphere since 2010, but its in storage on another continent)

    Damn!!! The Herborizer is just as amazing as ever. I thought maybe after a few years it wouldn't be as good as I remembered, my tastes have matured, that other vapes have caught up, but no. The vapor from the Herborizer is incredibly flavorful, thick and smooth. As others have said, the flavour also lasts noticeably longer than most other vapes.

    I've currently using it with a small Lux bubbler, which is a beautiful compact setup. I can comfortably hold it by hand while sitting on the couch etc.

    Heres a quick photo. Watch out for a Herborizer/Lux video from me soon.
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  23. SoulCaptivesAreFree

    SoulCaptivesAreFree Hazemaniac

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    cool setup bleak! bet that's really tasty :)

    any news regarding your steak bubbler yet? i'm very curious to see how it turns out - i remember steak from another canna forum where he used to make oil domes for some members... even wrote him asking about a custom piece when i read about your bubbler but never heard back from him :/

    have fun reacquainting yourself with the herbo!

    good vibes
  24. bleak

    bleak Well-Known Member

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    Steak let me know he is quite busy, the custom glass is something he does on the side, its not his main job at this stage. Plus, my bubbler had some design elements that need to be tested first, for example the way I joined the showehead to the base. I'm not in a hurry, so I told him to take his time, and he'll get back to me when he is ready.
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  25. Smokey

    Smokey Cloud Master

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    Bleak very sexy setup!! I like it because it looks so slim :D I am used to see the herbo on my Phat sphere and this is really cool :D Happy tasty clouding!!!
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