I still have and use my Herbie occasionally, definitely not near as much as i used to in the beginning. For a super fast session i turn to Herbie, in and out dash and Herbie is always up for it! All my other vapes have 5+ minute heat up times. I prefer the vapor quality from my H.A. on most occasions so long as i do not use my Hydra Tube! I find the first hit has amazing flavour but then it goes bad quite quickly. This never happens with any other WT i own, must be the design of the HT. My ABV comes out the same colour after two hits with the HT and more like 8+ hits on any other WT. Best flavor so far comes from my mini Peyote pillar from DHgate. Sorry got off track there, bad idea to hit the Elite and reply... Back on topic! I find that i can use less in my Elite and still get as or more medicated than when i used more in the Herbie. Herbie bags are still the best i have ever tasted! Concentrates, flowers, shatter etc all taste amazing! The HA bags are possibly better being they are so strong, they really kick my ass!! Both can be hooked up to a WT, althouth the Elite wins with it's TonG. Both are easy to load and maintain. Herbie has a few more bits to clean. Both are digital but i would imagine that the Herbie is far more accurate in temp control! Herbie is an all in one unit, while the HA has a separate pump. HA wins with the price for similar features. HA wins with bullet proof design! They are both very versatile machines and if you can have both, you will have everything you need! I use my HA Elite daily while the Herbie gets used a few times a month. I love the PV GonG for the Elite, taste is great and clouds a bit bigger from conduction element. I do not see the Elite being bumped from Number 1 any time soon. Elite meduicated is awesome! Little bit of Master Kush tonight. I am with you as i would want to see the airflow path before i daisy chain anything together. Not quite sure how the air flows through the heater.