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Hi Everyone,
I have been pretty indecisive the last few weeks. Over the last few months I can really feel it in my lungs when I am combusting flower. I don't want to continue doing this knowing all the risks and overall I feel less healthy. Short breathe. Snoring in sleep might be related to smoking as well. Don't feel like doing sports cause my lungs just want to sip oxygen when they're not sipping canabis and tar and all other foul substances that come free when burning that J.
I am not new to the vape world. I bought an arizer air 4 years ago. But the J became the more attractive option pretty quick. I tried using the arizer air again, but reloading is such a hassle. But worst thing is the battery. When it is done, I cant even plug it in and continue vaping. It first needs to charge to X amount of level. Also the clouds aren't what I hoped for. I think that vaping will be more satisfying to me if there's more cloud. But ive read that more clouds arent necessarily indicative of good extraction etc.
Either way, my dilemma is not knowing which device to buy for my migration from burning to vaping. I have already had quite some usefull advice on this forum from a few people. At first I really wanted the flowerpot. But I tried letting the idea of owning a flower pot really sink in, and I keep worrying about the exposed heat element/coil. It is not off my list yet by any means. I do live with wifey, supports my decision to get off burning. Health > Money atm so if paying more increases the chance that I leave J's behind, Im glad to pay the extra buck.
Thing holding me from flower pot is the burn hazard. Availability of a lot of accessories is not there. I own a 'the Honey' watertool which I used with my arizer and considered using with the flower pot. The thing is, if I buy the essentials bundle I cannot even buy additional accessories. The better safety stand with debowler is out of stock. Everything basically is out of stock. But if I buy a proper TWAX bundle, I will get it with the Honey or similar bubbler. And that is just being forced to buy something I already have. Not the biggest deal. I could get the Honey or the Matrix bubbler and give my current glass piece to a friend. Biggest issue is the burning hazard. Additionally using the flowerpot seems more of a hassle than say using an EVO. I have read people say it is in fact the other way around. I guess the fact that it has more parts makes it seem more complicated to use.
What I really like about the EVO is the all glass path. It is available locally only with the hydrabomb for 600 euros. Getting the flowerpot will cost somewhat the same. The fact that the EVO seemed simpler to use combined with the fact that it is pretty hard to burn yourself seriously made it more interesting to me. All glass path also very nice to me. Sometimes I hear overwhelming praise in favor of flowerpot over the EVO, but I feel that these people say this because of the dabbing. I really won't be doing any dabbing for now. Concentrates are hard to come by. If in 5 years concentrates are available, I will buy another vape. So for now, floweer is the only consumable and dabbing should not be considered in this dilemma. I asked the local stores (vaposhop, azarius) whether they can service an EVO if I say break my bamboo glass. Waiting on an answer. I know vapefiend can, so even if I don't buy from them (out of stock) I could pay them to service it if I were to break it.
Things I like about the EVO are actually the bowls. Filling up 6 bowls beforehand (1/4th filling) and being able to easily pop it in, and extract the content in 1 or 2 rips seems amazing. I know same can be done with flowerpot, but it would involve scooping some herb into the bowl in between "sessions". Also EVO doesnt need stirring afaik if you don't even fill the bowl/basket for 50%. For both EVO and FP all accessories are out of stock.
Another vape that came on my radar is the SSV. I've seen people have some very nice sessions using this vape and using it seemed nice and simple. I know it has more of a learning curve than say something like an EVO. But I plan on spending lots of hours with my next vape(s) and develop some technique. The only issue with the SSV is that it is not available (Availability in europe is sooooooo bad for most vapes
). There is only one place where it is available with a UK powercord, and I won't use an adapter so yeah. Actually also saw a 250euro SSV at jahvaporizer.com but then it is about as expensive as the much newer Ditanium which seems more versatile and is definitely much prettier. SSV seems like great value tbh and if somebody know where to get that in europe with EU cord that would be great.
Obviously the Ditanium and especially the SSV are much much cheaper than the flowerpot or EVO. Since my budget does allow for an EVO I plan on using it completely!
So part of me wants me to choose a Ditanium so that I can add in a little Mighty portable. I will be doing some extra research on the Mighty. Few people who have shared their Ditanium experiences. So right now I am very stuck between these options. Ditanium seems like a pretty solid unit but I haven't read somebodys comments on it's performance that owns both Ditanium AND flowerpot/EVO. If somebody own a Ditanium and one of the more expensive vapes mentioned before, I would love to hear a comparison. Would you in my shoes, buy a evo/flowerpot, or a Ditanium AND a Mighty? I don't even want the mighty for its portable capabilities. I've seen people RIP huge clouds on the thing. And will mostly use it at the same place I will use my desktop unit. Though the added benefit of taking it with me outside is great for sure. Also read about some easy pre-loadable bowls which sounds pretty nice if it doesnt diminish performance. Just load up 4-5 of those bastards, and they will be amazing with a gaming session. Having various vapes also helps with getting accustomed to your daily driver (I've read).
A lot of words. Hope some people can nudge me in the right direction. Will digg through the threads, but seriously, there is just SO MUCH to go through. And Im never sure if people pick FP over EVO because they use it for dabbing etc or flower only. Because people would often just post: FP is much beetter hits me like a train im sooo stoneeed this is the best and i own an EVO.
Then they disappear and you never know for what reason the FP is preferred. I tend to think dabbing, since that seems quite popular in the USA/Canada. Here, (west europe) very hard to come by concentrates I find.
Ditanium + Mighty = Flower Pot = EVO Cloud ?
I have been pretty indecisive the last few weeks. Over the last few months I can really feel it in my lungs when I am combusting flower. I don't want to continue doing this knowing all the risks and overall I feel less healthy. Short breathe. Snoring in sleep might be related to smoking as well. Don't feel like doing sports cause my lungs just want to sip oxygen when they're not sipping canabis and tar and all other foul substances that come free when burning that J.
I am not new to the vape world. I bought an arizer air 4 years ago. But the J became the more attractive option pretty quick. I tried using the arizer air again, but reloading is such a hassle. But worst thing is the battery. When it is done, I cant even plug it in and continue vaping. It first needs to charge to X amount of level. Also the clouds aren't what I hoped for. I think that vaping will be more satisfying to me if there's more cloud. But ive read that more clouds arent necessarily indicative of good extraction etc.
Either way, my dilemma is not knowing which device to buy for my migration from burning to vaping. I have already had quite some usefull advice on this forum from a few people. At first I really wanted the flowerpot. But I tried letting the idea of owning a flower pot really sink in, and I keep worrying about the exposed heat element/coil. It is not off my list yet by any means. I do live with wifey, supports my decision to get off burning. Health > Money atm so if paying more increases the chance that I leave J's behind, Im glad to pay the extra buck.
Thing holding me from flower pot is the burn hazard. Availability of a lot of accessories is not there. I own a 'the Honey' watertool which I used with my arizer and considered using with the flower pot. The thing is, if I buy the essentials bundle I cannot even buy additional accessories. The better safety stand with debowler is out of stock. Everything basically is out of stock. But if I buy a proper TWAX bundle, I will get it with the Honey or similar bubbler. And that is just being forced to buy something I already have. Not the biggest deal. I could get the Honey or the Matrix bubbler and give my current glass piece to a friend. Biggest issue is the burning hazard. Additionally using the flowerpot seems more of a hassle than say using an EVO. I have read people say it is in fact the other way around. I guess the fact that it has more parts makes it seem more complicated to use.
What I really like about the EVO is the all glass path. It is available locally only with the hydrabomb for 600 euros. Getting the flowerpot will cost somewhat the same. The fact that the EVO seemed simpler to use combined with the fact that it is pretty hard to burn yourself seriously made it more interesting to me. All glass path also very nice to me. Sometimes I hear overwhelming praise in favor of flowerpot over the EVO, but I feel that these people say this because of the dabbing. I really won't be doing any dabbing for now. Concentrates are hard to come by. If in 5 years concentrates are available, I will buy another vape. So for now, floweer is the only consumable and dabbing should not be considered in this dilemma. I asked the local stores (vaposhop, azarius) whether they can service an EVO if I say break my bamboo glass. Waiting on an answer. I know vapefiend can, so even if I don't buy from them (out of stock) I could pay them to service it if I were to break it.
Things I like about the EVO are actually the bowls. Filling up 6 bowls beforehand (1/4th filling) and being able to easily pop it in, and extract the content in 1 or 2 rips seems amazing. I know same can be done with flowerpot, but it would involve scooping some herb into the bowl in between "sessions". Also EVO doesnt need stirring afaik if you don't even fill the bowl/basket for 50%. For both EVO and FP all accessories are out of stock.
Another vape that came on my radar is the SSV. I've seen people have some very nice sessions using this vape and using it seemed nice and simple. I know it has more of a learning curve than say something like an EVO. But I plan on spending lots of hours with my next vape(s) and develop some technique. The only issue with the SSV is that it is not available (Availability in europe is sooooooo bad for most vapes
). There is only one place where it is available with a UK powercord, and I won't use an adapter so yeah. Actually also saw a 250euro SSV at jahvaporizer.com but then it is about as expensive as the much newer Ditanium which seems more versatile and is definitely much prettier. SSV seems like great value tbh and if somebody know where to get that in europe with EU cord that would be great. Obviously the Ditanium and especially the SSV are much much cheaper than the flowerpot or EVO. Since my budget does allow for an EVO I plan on using it completely!
So part of me wants me to choose a Ditanium so that I can add in a little Mighty portable. I will be doing some extra research on the Mighty. Few people who have shared their Ditanium experiences. So right now I am very stuck between these options. Ditanium seems like a pretty solid unit but I haven't read somebodys comments on it's performance that owns both Ditanium AND flowerpot/EVO. If somebody own a Ditanium and one of the more expensive vapes mentioned before, I would love to hear a comparison. Would you in my shoes, buy a evo/flowerpot, or a Ditanium AND a Mighty? I don't even want the mighty for its portable capabilities. I've seen people RIP huge clouds on the thing. And will mostly use it at the same place I will use my desktop unit. Though the added benefit of taking it with me outside is great for sure. Also read about some easy pre-loadable bowls which sounds pretty nice if it doesnt diminish performance. Just load up 4-5 of those bastards, and they will be amazing with a gaming session. Having various vapes also helps with getting accustomed to your daily driver (I've read). A lot of words. Hope some people can nudge me in the right direction. Will digg through the threads, but seriously, there is just SO MUCH to go through. And Im never sure if people pick FP over EVO because they use it for dabbing etc or flower only. Because people would often just post: FP is much beetter hits me like a train im sooo stoneeed this is the best and i own an EVO.
Then they disappear and you never know for what reason the FP is preferred. I tend to think dabbing, since that seems quite popular in the USA/Canada. Here, (west europe) very hard to come by concentrates I find.
Ditanium + Mighty = Flower Pot = EVO Cloud ?
plus the screens are so easy to pop in and out of the FP shovelhead bowl. I clean my regular Ti screen daily with a toothbrush. Takes less than minute, pop it back in and screen is like new again.
