Hi guys, I've been deliberating a lot about what sort of desktop vape I want. I've read so many threads, reviews, and websites... but it has just left me even more muddled. When I think I have figured it out, then I read something else that sends my mind spinning again. I felt like the only way to make any headway is to ask you all myself. Sorry if this post ends up being long, I feel like it is necessary to give you as much info as I can so I can figure this all out. I've never used a desktop vape, but I have used a couple of portables: Firewood- I didn't really like it and I felt like there was too much hassle to get anywhere with it. Solo- Good, it got me high, but I don't like the draw system. I don't like having to look down to use it all the time. Maybe that's just me being really picky though. Indica- I like this one, I feel like it gets me just as high as the solo but I don't feel like it I have to constantly look down to use it. So, that is my experience with vapes so far. I am not a very heavy user. An eight can last me anywhere from two weeks to a month (maybe even more) depending on what I have going on. I don't usually smoke more than two bowls of my solo or my indica in a given day. I feel like that might carry some weight with your suggestions. What I want from a vape: Efficiency - I would prefer that if I smoked just as often with a desktop that eights would last just as long. I'm not expecting them to last longer. And I don't know if this is a ridiculous statement, I don't know if desktops are supposed to be more or less conservative than portables. Bowl size - I would like to be able to fill a bowl with small amounts for when I'm alone as well as with large amounts for when I am with friends. Water tools - Being able to attach to a water tool is a must. If it can attach without having to buy an extra piece or if the piece is relatively cheap, then that is a plus. Glass - All glass would be preferred, but it really isn't necessary. I just like how you can reclaim your glass. Stirring - I would prefer if it vaped evenly without needing to stir, but also, not the biggest issue. Airflow - I would prefer to have a decent airflow and not have to feel like I'm sucking on a clogged pipe. Hard hitting - This is where I get confused as to how I want to describe what I want. I want something that I can feel without having to suck on it for half an hour to just feel a little bit. But I don't care about clouds. I also don't mind spending some time with it. I don't need to feel it in one hit. For example, I like the amount of time I spend with the solo. I usually go through and or two 12 minute sessions with it and that is perfect, I get to spend some time with it and chill (something I feel like I lose a bit when I'm vaping rather than smoking.. I can slowly feel myself getting higher with it. I don't have a price range. If I need to save up for a few months to get something that will suit me, then that is fine. But if something that is cheaper will suit all (or most) of my needs I will grab that rather than spending a large chunk more. I don't have a specific vape in mind anymore but I will give you my feelings about some of the ones that I have looked into. Logs - I know they are super efficient and that is great. I just don't think that I would like their direct draw system because I don't like the solos. DBV - I don't really like that the whip is facing one direct so I can't sit in a circle. I have heard good things about it's hits though. EQ - I like that it uses both whips and bags. I get confused because people say that the whip isn't as good as the DBV but I don't really understand why, so that is something that worries me. Cloud - looks pretty awesome, but is expensive and I don't know if I would personally notice much of a difference between it and a cheaper vape based on my tolerance level. Thanks for taking the time to read all that. Don't limit your suggestions to the few I listed above, suggest away!