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Heavy Hitters for Flower

Discussion in 'Ask FC' started by Morty, Jul 11, 2017.

  1. Morty

    Morty Well-Zoned Member

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    I hate to be that @Morty, but after reading little maggies thread, I had to ask. D-Nail Lotus, Errlectric Herb Nail, NVFP, Herborizer Ti, Sublimator, SV3. I know all would surely kick ass (lovin' my SV3) & get one where they needed to be & beyond, but for those who have used some of these same vapes, is there one you reach for more & stands out among the others ? Is there one that clubs you over the head harder ? Are there others I'm missing ?

    The EVO, Sticky Bricks, Tubo, Apollo. Hard & heavy hitters in their own right, but are they just a tier below the others mentioned above ? And where the hell does the Vriptech Heat Wand fit in all of this. :lol:

    These all in one e-nail systems look real fuckin' tempting. I know W9 has something in the works & Ed of Supreme fame might have something coming down the pike. Fun times. :spliff:
     
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  2. vapirtoo

    vapirtoo Well-Known Member

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    Yo Morty
    Good lineup you got there. I just got the Errlectric herbnail , and it can hit harder than the Supreme, IMHO,. I know , the new vape "glamor", it has me almost ready to give up all of my posse ;
    all except my Daisy. LOL
    I really think that the Errlectric has cured my VAS.
    Now I have GAS. WTF
     
  3. Morty

    Morty Well-Zoned Member

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    Haha. It never ends. My 3rd month here I knew I was fucked. Just now truly starting to go down the rabbit hole.

    I know you love your Daisy. How does it compare to the Sup w/ the AIWB (thnx for the suggestion) flavor wise. Does it Frankenstein :zombie: you like the Sup ?
     
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  4. vapirtoo

    vapirtoo Well-Known Member

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    The Daisy can hit almost as hard as the Supreme, but you have to find that sweet spot with the torch to get strong vapor.
    Ya need skillz to yank the petals off the Daisy.!
    Both the Supreme and the Errlectric are set temp and rip!
    Oh yeah flavor on the Daisy is not as good as the others
     
  5. t-dub

    t-dub Vapor Sloth

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    @Morty - IME the hardest hitting flower vape has to be the VapeXhale Cloud EVO. From the all glass airpath to the vibrational restrictions of the bamboo creating turbulence that "scrubs" actives off of your medicine . . . in taste and effect the Cloud EVO reigns supreme.

    Of course everyone needs a break from any vape so that you can get a fresh signature.
     
  6. steama

    steama Well-Known Member

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    Twax Flower Pot kills all these other vapes. I am saying this as gently as I can.
    The FP is a true 'connoisseurs' vape. You control every variable. The fact you can do wax,
    herb, or both with no changes to the setup make this vape a joy to own and use. :cool:

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  7. herbivore21

    herbivore21 Well-Known Member

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    The evo deserves to be mentioned here as one of the heavier hitting vapes, but IMO it doesn't hold a candle to the clouds that can be given by the d-nail flower adapter, flowerpot, sublimator etc which seem to be able to give absolutely lung-busting rips that even the Evo doesn't. With that said, the evo provides flavor which exceeds these vapes at the expense of not quite such instant or insane cloud production.

    The evo nonetheless should definitely be considered by the OP, alongside the abovementioned e-nail like flower vapes. However, if the OP wants to use their own glass, I'd recommend one of the e-nail based designs as the Evo is not ideal to use inverted IME and whips are simply unacceptable at this tier of vaping. :2c:
     
  8. Alan Partridge

    Alan Partridge Smell my cheese

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    My Herborizer is leagues ahead of anything else I have. It made the Evo seem weak in comparison. I'm still waiting for my FP but I'm expecting similar performance to the TI. Nothing else will do these days.
     
  9. Morty

    Morty Well-Zoned Member

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    Appreciate everyone's input. Love looking at your guy's signatures :haw: & seeing everyone's vape journey & learning from your collective experience. THANK YOU!!

    An all in one home system is definitely what I'm leaning towards. Good thing I got a couple new vapes to play around w/ while I continue reading & familiarizing myself w/ the pro/cons & strength/weaknesses of each unit.

    Great point. Cannot forget about the flavor! Flavor is key too!
     
  10. Joaon

    Joaon Well-Known Member

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    I can only second the FlowerPot and the Herborizer :cool:

    The FlowerPot is a sturdy and efficient vape, it will not let you down, and fast heat up :tup:
    The Herborizer (XL & Ti) are delicate and connoisseur devices, nonless efficient. I really like to see my herb during vaping :tup:

    I've found the FP smoother than Herbo, but somes have found the opposite .. :ninja:
    The FP milks bongs like crazy, the Lollicap really helps that dense vapor :haw:
    The Herborizer is a little bit more airy (with same herb amount) on the bong, but huge cloud on exhale :freak:

    More tests to come, but I'll definitively keep them all ! Each one his own extraction signature :luv:
    For now, it will be FlowerPot as home daily driver, and herbo for more ritual tasting sessions
     
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  11. Pustupillo

    Pustupillo Vaporizing > Smoking

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    If you are searching 4 a heavy hitter, easy cleanable, fast preheat (15 min MAX), only 280€ for the adapt a bong kit, go for the Herborizer TI man ^_^
     
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  12. Justpassedu

    Justpassedu Well-Known Member

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    @Morty Like @steama stated "Twax Flower Pot kills all these other vapes. I am saying this as gently as I can.
    The FP is a true 'connoisseurs' vape. You control every variable. The fact you can do wax,
    herb, or both with no changes to the setup make this vape a joy to own and use." I have to agree , it's really a great vape , not to say some listed are bad and not heavy hitters . This vape just really stood out to me when i got it , price wise but not only that , it was the hardest vape i ever hit , almost bordering combustion with out combusting. Fill's all my glass up with thick dense vapor in seconds. I am very happy with it and think you would be also.
     
  13. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    Another positive for the EVO for hardcore with flowers.
     
  14. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    Currently I'm obsessed with the Lithe and the Flowerpot.

    Lithe I like to call a mini supreme although they are definitely a bit different. I also focus towards microdosing so most of my vapes are not big bowl.

    Another of my videos was posted above but here's a video of four heavy hitting vapes I really enjoy at the moment.

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    The Rebel/Fury is not great in flavor but perfect for when you are out and about wanting something to make you cough up a storm. Although definitely not in the higher tier.

    The Hopper is pretty killer, I'd consider it the long lasting Fury/Rebel, slightly (slightly) better flavor on high temp. Hopper is pretty damn clean under 3.5 on the dial though.

    Lithe is butane based and has a bit of a heat up time. Still vaping under 10 seconds and acceptable with soft flames and torches. Torch recommend if you want higher tier hits; its convection based with not so great flavor but amazing rips for the price (50 dollars), not intended for native use.

    Flowerpot, for me its the Versa killer and currently the best producing vape I have tried. All other vapes have been great and are but if there is a best desktop this is pretty much it for now.
     
  15. Morty

    Morty Well-Zoned Member

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    The Lithe. The Lithe is on the short list. I remember seeing one of your other Lithe videos in another Ask FC thread (Rick & Morty - Fuk Lil' Bits! :lol: ) & your mini Supreme comment caught my eye. Reasonably priced as well like you said. Have you ever hit it dry ? I bet it'd be an ass kicker! :brow: Kinda like a blunt lookin' SBJR ?

    The NVFP looks really interesting. It also looks like it can be put together for a decent price. The ability to do both flower & concentrates (SiC!) together separately seems really kick ass & more than just a novelty. I just ordered some Herbalizer SS pads to try the concept w/ my Supreme using my Vapocane adapter. @lazylathe ! :bowdown:

    The Herborizer Ti looks bad ass too. Fuck, they all look sick! Wanna thank everyone else who has chimed in. Thank you guys. So cool we can have a civil (shit, I mean CIVILIZED) discussion. No flame war BS. Big upz!

    There's just something about blowin' fatty clouds AND having the ability to get to a 8, 9 or a 10 quick & in a hurry. I know, I know...concentrates. I love concentrates. But I love my flower too. :spliff: Now, if there were only a way to combine both separately but together. Ohhhh...:dog:
     
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  16. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    Lithe dry is possible but harsh as fuck. Wouldn't suggest it. At least a jhook or adapter is needed.

    I believe a claisen adapter allows for both herb and flower separately.
     
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  17. Morty

    Morty Well-Zoned Member

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    That's right. Forgot about that too. I'm curious. Double deckers vs just throwing some concentrates in w/ your bud. Seems like one of the advantages would be better/more intense flavor w/ the double decker ? :shrug:Can anyone speak on that ? Cleaner as well maybe ?
     
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  18. grokit

    grokit well-worn member

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    Man I can't believe I didn't think about the versa! It's in the pile of stuff to fix but I really do miss using it. It's the only vaporizer I've used that produces cloud density equal to the sublimator, from straight flowers and it's pure convection which makes its power even more impressive imo. Anyways I'm glad it's just an electrical issue I will get it working again someday, but as a heavy convection hitter for flowers, wow!

    :doh::science:
     
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  19. t-dub

    t-dub Vapor Sloth

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    I will just comment a bit . .. .

    The Sublimator is an interesting approach. However, the flavor is compromised, severely, as the device soils over time, and it continues to be a trip, burn, fire hazard which is very similar to other products in this thread.

    I'm not saying anyone is better . . . there are many paths to god. All are valid. There is bliss in variety which enables satisfaction.

    The videos were impressive for sure, however, I would submit this in response . . . :)

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  20. herbivore21

    herbivore21 Well-Known Member

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    Couldn't agree more with all of this. Of all of the above, I recommend the sublimator the least.
     
  21. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    How is the Glass Symphony still not mentioned .. Havent tried it but looks like the hardest hitting vape i've seen :D..
    Another contender might be the new Alpha dog (UD),which seems to have the largest bowl out of all log vapes ;).
     
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  22. Morty

    Morty Well-Zoned Member

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    Just checked out that thread. Very nice sir! I concur.
     
  23. nodrog

    nodrog Well-Known Member

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    Here's my favorite flower vape, specifically with regard to "heavy hitting" or getting the most satisfyingly stoned: The Mobius Flower Pot. It's a wee bit more effort that some vapes, but it's super simple and works better than any other vape I've tried (caveat, I've only tried about 4-5).

    My second fave is the Arizer Solo II, which I also use often.

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  24. StormyPinkness

    StormyPinkness Rhymenocerous ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ

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    Ah I'm glad you made this thread @Morty, I found it literally after checking out the sublimator, Herborizer Ti, nv flowerpot, errlectric, and d-nail lotus on here. I'm leaning flowerpot both because I like the 2-in-1 design and it seems like the cheapest option initially ($65 flower pot, $40 body, $35 barrel coil). Well that and the Glass Symphony XLR, I'd love to get an awesome flower nail and support and fc'er at the same time.
     
  25. Morty

    Morty Well-Zoned Member

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    Hey @StormyPinkness :wave: Don't they all look so sick! :drool: I too am leaning towards the NVFP (SiC!), even though I'll have to build it from scratch (still looks to be a decent price if pieced together properly).

    I didn't really know about the Glass Symphony till this morning after @Abysmal Vapor suggested it. I had confused it w/ another vape (stoner! :ko:). It looks tight as fuck. More research is needed!

    I think what I'm gonna do is keep reading, watching & gathering as much info as I can; see if Ed (SV3) releases anything new in the near future, as well as W9 Tech & their Odyssey. If their not out yet by BF/CM, or they (or any other vape) doesn't excite me like the NVFP, well, it will be the Flowerpot all the way. Seriously considering grabbing a Lithe to compliment my Supreme "in the meantime". :rockon:

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