Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by reeefermadness, May 9, 2017.
Definitely an upgrade, worth getting. Especially for stealth, speed and flavor.
Thanks for the answer LesPlenty.
Has anyone tried the "Sneaky Pete Fury 2 bubble straw" yet?
I'm thinking about getting it.
I have both the CF and the F2.
If I had only one vape, looking back at my history of purchases I'd advice you to get off as quick as you can from the quest for the "best portable vape"(which now is the Fury2 imho), and get a desktop unit. With the same money you get lots of feature you will never have on a portable.
F2 is really great, but the major improvement over session portables, is the fact it takes so little as 20 seconds to get to temperature. IIRC CF is quick too, respect to a Crafty. Just not as much as 20seconds.
If you can, get your hands on a couple of Vapexhale Cloud EVO ELB's and you will improve your CF experience already, they fit in and improve somewhat the flavor too. I heard it on this same forum and have to agree.
It looks interesting.
But, it has the same problem as all the glass mouthpieces, namely that the herb is loaded into the glass piece, and after use, you cannot remove the glass piece without heating up the Fury. In addition, leaving glass pieces to cool in the chamber is bad long-term for the chamber.
All this works fine for the typical WPA use, where the WPA is upside down in a glass bong, the Fury is then heated up and placed upside down onto the WPA. For the last hit, the Fury is removed, driving the air through the bong.
However, it doesn't work so well for the glass mouthpieces, or other right side up uses. When using the glass mouthpiece, the "pleasant effect of the aromatherapy" causes the user to forget to remove the glass piece, causing it to cool in the chamber (bad for the chamber), and then causing the user to need to heat up the Fury later just to remove the glass piece with the spent herb. But then the glass piece is hot - which is also true if you remember to remove it before the Fury turns off. This makes for significant handling problems.
So, while the WPA's are fine for upside down use, and the small size of the standard included mouthpiece is ideal for use on the go, what is really needed to prevent hot lips (due to the strong heat at the end of the mouthpiece during a second session) is a long version of the standard included mouthpiece, preferably where the internal glass emerges from the top of the mouthpiece and then bends towards the user (the bend causes further cooling). Such a mouthpiece would not need anything to be inserted into the chamber, which is a problematic design decision.
justcametomind, thanks for your answer, it helped me a lot. You confirm what i suspected. Im actually quite happy with my cf and have a glass mouthpiece, that really improved the taste. I guess, its not worth to buy a new vape, a desktop vape isnt an option for me. When my cf breaks down one day, i will think about the fury 2.
Howdy Cosmic Dude! You must not of owned one of the most popular vaporizers on this forum and is probably one of the top selling portables ever made, the Solo is designed as such and IMO is anything but a problematic design. Hopefully I can share a few tricks from my Solo/log days that may make your F2 a little more enjoyable with the glass accessories.
I'm a flavor whore so I pull the stems out after every hit so my product doesn't continue to cook, this also aids in effeciency, so I never forget to pull out before she cools off.
I also load my stems by sucking herb into the bowl like a straw, so the heat from back to back sessions doesn't affect my good time.
Some log stems come with a 3/4-1" piece of silicone on them which you can place around the stem to keep the hot end off say a table when laying hot stems down.
You'll also find that your spent load taps out very easy, and almost puck like when all the moisture is vaped out.
Hope this helps in your experience as well.
Yes, I'm aware that Arizer popularized the herb-in-the-glass-mouthpiece concept.
It's fine for a person who is interested in vaporizers and vaporizing as a hobby - certainly an excellent hobby - but for those who are merely interested in "aromatherapy" , then all of that is just too fiddly. Someone recently mentioned in the thread that the Fury was good for passing to any friend who might not be familiar with vaporizers. In that vein, one might not want to have to instruct such a person that they need to pull out that hot glass piece at a certain time.
And the whole "session timer" that is a prominent part of the Fury, is based on the concept of losing track of what is going on with the vaporizer, because one's attention is elsewhere.
I was just curious if anyone else is getting a lot of discoloration at the end of their WPA, where the herb is loaded. Ive tried soaking it in iso for hours but it doesn't seem to come off. Kinda annoying because its getting hard to see what my ABV is looking like while its loaded in the WPA. After a few sessions can't remember if its a fresh bowl ready to go or ABV, lol.
I use a strip cut off a green dishwashing scourer and jam that in tight then spin after ISO and Ultrasonic cleaner won't budge it. (I haven't had to resort to toothpaste yet)
I still believe a F2 is a big improvement over a CF, for chasing flavor, just sprinkle a bit of ground up weed in the WPA for a one hit wonder, I also dislike the basket mod on the CF/CFx as clouds are smaller, just do the mouthpiece mod with the top hat screen to keep things clean.
Arizer glass is a great idea($5ea), give everyone a stem each full of goodies and only pass the unit around, no one elses scooby snacks to put you off.
I have developed quite a liking for the mini-bubbler. What started out as a novelty add-on has become quite functional and regularly useful. Many of the issues related to balancing the water act goes away when you do it dry.
The dry bubbler becomes a handy sherlock with a substantially lengthy glass air path for cooling the vapor. The herb tends to stay in the glass bowl even when inverted upside down. I have yet to see pieces of herb falling into the heating chamber. I rarely forget to remove the glass bubbler from the F2 when done because it empties and blows clean so much easier when hot. I don't own a bent stem for comparison, but when stealth is not necessary and given the option I choose the bubbler over the mp.
I also never leave the F2 on the wpa when done vaping through a larger bubbler. You have to scrape out a cold, spent bowl, but a hot spent bowl blows clean with minimal clean up.
Just a high rambling...
First, Let me welcome you to FC @Revere . Sorry your first post is to solve a problem rather than sing the praises of a vape.
There is a cleaner called PBW (Professional Brewers Wash) and it works great in hard to scrub corners and really any vape glass. It needs to be hot, so consider using a pot or at least boiling water in a glass bowl.
You can buy PBW on Amazon, just note that at 2 oz sample and a 1 pound jar are almost the same price.
Very good advice (as it typical with SMF), with one small correction, the name is POWDERED Brewery Wash. Great stuff, the Coors (beer) folks paid to have it developed to clean out brewery gear where it wasn't possible to scrub stuff (remove the same sort of baked on hydrocarbon junk we face):
"Magic Eraser" a kind of scrubber with some pretty amazing properties is also quite useful, it too can be bought on Amazon or even many grocery and hardware stores. Stuff takes scuff marks off walls and cleans the 'haze' on showers like you wouldn't believe.
As the name implies you can also get it at 'home Brewery Stores' both downtown and on the web. A small packet is a couple dollars at the one near me, and since you use it in tiny amounts it lasts a long time. A pound jar will last years, even if you give most of it to friends.
The stuff is 'foam' made from an industrial glue (there are lots of cheaper versions by other makers), very brittle at the microscopic level making a bunch of very sharp scrapers that won't scratch (it crumples first). Just add a bit of water and stand by to be amazed. Useful for lots of stuff. We scrub out the pans of our VapMen (or would it be VapMens?) which has a very thin Gold plating without scratching or damaging the Gold........
@OF thanks for the shower tip
Yer welcome, good trick, that.
Also worth trying is a teaspoon of PBW in the dishwasher, the stuff they add to combat hard water wipes out the 'haze' that builds up in there over time as rinse water dries. A 'super detergent' if you will?
Oh, I've got nothing but praise for the F2. Thats just one minor issue I've been having. I'll give the PBW a try. Thanks for the tip.
Another fun thing to do with PBW for your consideration:
You know that old bong you hide away because it's just so gross with the fouling from blazing you can't seem to get out? Put in a dash of PBW and fill it with hot tap water. Then stand back a bit and watch closely.....
You know how bubbles in glass of beer seem to rise in a stream from a common point (typically an atomic level flaw)? Same thing happens here as Oxygen is generated by the fouling. The "Oxy Clean" deal? Those gas bubbles eventually work their way under the fouling......which then FLOATS AWAY before your eyes, lifted by the stream of gas bubbles. Very fun to watch when you're loaded. A good 'group activity'. And you get your bong back, clean.
How does PBW compare to Oxyclean?
I have never used PBW, but I do use the unscented Oxyclean on all my glass for both homebrewing and wacky tobaccy. Oxy has served me well for many years.
Much superior IMO. It contains a bunch of conditioners and stuff to deal with hard water, contamination of the wash water and so on. Surfacants and such. I only tried Oxyclean a couple of times, but PBW definitely did a better job for me. There's some discussion on 'substitutes' in the PBW thread, mostly for folks living in Europe or elsewhere where PBW is not common. No success there, but you might ask on that thread?
Or just buy a jar, try it and let us know?
Healthy Rips should consider marketing a Fury size glass mouthpiece, like the one
made for the Fierce, all-glass mouthpiece with a magnetic slide-on housing.
An attractive option?
This is what I am advocating above - except that we need such a glass mouthpiece that does not go inside the chamber. That way, there would be a cool (i.e. not hot) mouthpiece that would not require being pulled out while still hot.
More ergonomic if it does, plus less probability of breakage. YMMV?
More ergonomic if what does what? I'm not sure what you are saying.
He didn't quote, but was referring to the post above his and was talking about the glass mouth piece that he'd like for the F2.
Got a pic? This seems really strange if its just flower that youre vaping in it.. Have you tried scrubbing it with iso+salt and an abrasive cleaning brush? The salt is what really gets shit off.
I use the bent glass stem exclusively and have zero discoloration at the chamber, even when the inside of the glass is coated with 20 sessions worth of reclaim. And thats only downstream of the bowl. The bowl-end itself stays clean. I clean the stem with iso+salt and easily bring it back to like-new condition.
Is the glass for the WPA really that much different than the glass for the bent stem?? Or are you using concentrates with a pad and cleaning it once a year? Lol
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