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Discontinued Haze Square

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by scottg402, Feb 3, 2016.

  1. b0

    b0 Cloudy...

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    I'm so gutted, now I have a vaporizer that doesn't work properly, no warranty and my money lost.

    The least they could have done is returning the money to unhappy customers, last time I trust a "well known" vape company with a pre-sale. So disappointed...

    Edit: if anyone needs coils, bowls or any kind of spares let me know. I have 2 bodies,, 4 bowls, 2ss coils, mouthpieces a bit of everything that will gladly sell for super cheap to recover some of my lost money. Just send me a dm and I will hook you up guys
     
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  2. analytika

    analytika Well-Known Member

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    Most startups fail.

    Ghost has made significant progress, surviving many classic stages of likely failure during early development and growth. They may even be doing better than most. But to put their odds at greater than 50% would be a stretch for any company similarly positioned.

    Keep the crapshoot nature of these companies in mind whenever you think about warrantees on a vape.

    I always considered the lifetime warranty on the grasshopper to mean the lifetime of the company, for example.

    Haze is instructive.
     
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  3. Djsleepy

    Djsleepy Well-Known Member

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    Let's remember ....Haze is the one here who screwed us....we are.just good people who were.really.psyched for a four chamber vape....and put our faith in them.....we didn't let us ourselves down ......they let us.down.....New year brings.... New promise for a really.good stable.vape ! Who knows what's next......
     
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  4. CalyxSmokr

    CalyxSmokr Well-Known Member

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    wow...surprised but it makes sense. I was skeptical when I saw they made another model with even more little parts to keep track of. KISS
     
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  5. frank grimes

    frank grimes Well-Known Member

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    Disappointed that the haze square just fizzled out without a fight. But I can’t say I’m surprised. IMO, there were some fundamental design flaws that doomed this device from the start. All their makeshift solutions to address the issues resulted in a product that was too complicated and cumbersome for the average user.

    There should’ve been a replaceable battery to address the the horrible battery life. But they chose the USB-C charging as a workaround. After watching a video of how to replace the battery, it was totally feasible to add an accessible battery compartment. It may have affected the esthetics of the unit but function over form would’ve been the way to go.

    Next is bowl size. The machine is a herb hog. It’s surprising they didn’t reduce the bowl size, particularly because there are 4 bowls. Some have voiced that they like the size but I think most agree that they would like to have the option of microdosing without the need to spend more money on spacers. Therefore, the pods should’ve maybe been half it’s original size. If I want more, I’ll just vape another bowl.

    Finally, I think their design was TOO modular. It’s great that almost every piece was user replaceable but there were way too many pieces, making it difficult to maintain and too troubleshoot when problems arise.

    I bought one fully accepting these shortcomings because you can’t complain about the price. But it is a disappointment because my unit will now be a brick as soon as I run out of batteries and coils or if it breaks.

    Back when I was ready to buy, it came down to the square and the ghost. I chose the square because despite its shortcomings, the benefits at that price point made it worth it. Now I’m back to square one (pun intended). Should’ve just bit the bullet and bought the ghost mv1 which I personally think is overpriced and has an equal number of drawbacks. At least the ghost is still around....for now :\.

    Oh well, buh bye Haze Technologies, thanks for nothing.
     
  6. IAmKrazy2

    IAmKrazy2 Darth Vapor

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    I have to hold down the latch button so the intearior button is pressed to get it to work. It is also a pain in the ass to keep everything clean.

    That said, vapor quality is pretty good and it really is a great way to load up a gram to hit on the go. Good vape to use if you want to dip away for a quick stealth hit periodically over and over again.
     
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  7. Shit Snacks

    Shit Snacks Milaana. Lana. LANA. LAANAAAAAA

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    Welp I guess we should have seen this coming, still hurts though because of how things went over here... I too was surprised and saddened to see the discontinued banner, but it does actually make sense considering everything.

    Now to see if my square will be a permanent collectible, or if anyone here will want to buy it... I guess it would be hard for any of us to make much money back at this point unfortunately? Bah I may have to sell some of the true collectibles (wood) to offset as I also waited too long with my Elevape RIP

    Anyway I did just get a new FocusVape Aero to test if anyone else still interested in multi-chamber convection wants to head over to that thread for more! :D
     
  8. Djsleepy

    Djsleepy Well-Known Member

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    Tighten screw down on latch will fix problem....
     
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  9. Whisper

    Whisper Well-Known Member

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    I was saddened to hear this. Live and learn.
     
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  10. Djsleepy

    Djsleepy Well-Known Member

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    Amen to that!
     
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  11. stark1

    stark1 Beam me up, Scottie (Beam as Happy)

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    POTV still is selling some Square Pros, deeply discounted, + free mailing.

    Not to be flaky. :|
     
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  12. Jill NYC

    Jill NYC Portable Collector

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    Didn’t Haze also open a retail store around the same time as the Square release? Is that closed down as well? I would assume that would also be a stressor.
    Or am I thinking of another manufacturer?
     
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  13. Djsleepy

    Djsleepy Well-Known Member

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    They had the store for awhile ....also vaporizer USA was also Haze
     
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  14. IAmKrazy2

    IAmKrazy2 Darth Vapor

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    Thanks but i don't see any way to tighten it that the button will be pressed. Sorry, can you be more specific? Thanks.
     
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  15. Djsleepy

    Djsleepy Well-Known Member

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    Separate your haze and.look at.tray....there a small Allen head screw that gets.loose and cause not.to engage safety.button......don't over tighten as it.can break!
     
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  16. frank grimes

    frank grimes Well-Known Member

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    I too am debating the same thing. Do I run this machine into the ground and toss it or do I shelf it and pull it out for special occasions?

    Personally, I’ve had no problems with my unit which I’ve used daily for the last 6 months. Still on my original coil and battery. I have spare coils but no extra battery. I’ve always recharged the battery to full after each use since it takes less than 10mins to do so. By doing that, there’s been no noticeable degradation in performance even now. Could be noticeable if I did a second bowl...

    What a damn shame...the square wasn’t the sexiest vape by far but I’ll say it again, for the price, the value was there. Now I’m stuck with comtemplating the ghost mv1. It’s a damn sexy vape but the price is making me think twice. Even if I was willing to pay for the unit, the accessories are the rip off. At that price, it should include at the very least the dispenser with extra crucibles. It’d be great if they included the fast (or relatively fast) charger too. I know there have been sales which include those accessories but it should just be part of the package at all times.

    Does Anyone who owns both the square and the mv1 care to sell me on the mv1? I’m on the fence and I need a push...
     
  17. IAmKrazy2

    IAmKrazy2 Darth Vapor

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  18. ginolicious

    ginolicious Well-Known Member

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    I feel your pain.

    I’m running mine into the ground. Been using daily since I got it in June. It dies. It dies. Nothing lasts forever. Specially vapes. I’m over the whole out of business crap. Just gonna enjoy those flavour hits.

    I’ll get a new vape after about a full year of usuage and then just bring it out for special occasions. I am leaning towards a mv1
     
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  19. Shit Snacks

    Shit Snacks Milaana. Lana. LANA. LAANAAAAAA

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    Yeah mine has always worked perfectly fine, I guess I could get back something decent for it here, suppose I should make a post and see if anyone is interested...

    I am seeing a lot of great performance from the Splinter for my beloved on demand convection btw, very tough to beat I think. I'm sure we'll be seeing a lot more new options arise this year though!

    Anyway I will always think of Haze fondly and hope everyone there is making out okay even though of course we customers lose out as well. They join the ranks of Thermovape and iPuffUSA as innovative American vaporizer companies that unfortunately could not stay afloat in this truly crazy industry
     
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  20. frank grimes

    frank grimes Well-Known Member

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    I’ve already been looking around shops where I can pick up the mv1 locally. Being from Canada, I don’t want the hassle of dealing with customs and paying duty. Found it at the herbcafe.com but it’s a pretty penny. Unit itself is 400 and then tack on the dispenser for 43 and fast charger for 80 makes a grand total of 523 dollars. And there’s no extra battery either. Is it worth it?

    The big draw for me is that aside from on demand and potency, the mv1 has the right size crucible so that you can really save on material. I don’t mind continuing using the square but the amount of material it uses is killing me. I bought the square early in anticipation of the micro dose pods being released soon.

    Sigh... I wish haze really got those microdose pods out before shutting down...
     
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  21. ginolicious

    ginolicious Well-Known Member

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    I hear that. Microdose pods would be nice.

    Yesterday my Haze after a deep clean just wasn’t producing any vapor. Very depressing indeed.
     
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  22. RogueGuy

    RogueGuy Accessory Maker

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    Wow!!!! I have been off this group for a while. Can't believe the news. I haven't fired up my square in a month or so. Charged it last night and took a couple nice hits. Well sucks no more replacement parts.

    RIP Haze
     
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  23. Vapeur Rogue

    Vapeur Rogue Est. 2013- Never Lookin' Back

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    I feel you on this- I too bought a Square in anticipation of the pads, and it has been sitting unused since arrival. No desire to try it now, especially with finding out more about how to use concentrates with the FW5.
     
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  24. Djsleepy

    Djsleepy Well-Known Member

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    Fyi- if you are.going to continue to use your square pro and want to change temps...don't delete app from your computer....I confirmed with Microsoft that it should remain active as long as you don't delete.and eventually after.license expires.it will be removed from Microsoft store.... Should still function....I am not taking chances i am creating a Final preset from low to high.....

    Oh yeah ....I might have clue as to demise ....when in app store I saw this.......
    What's new in this version
    Version 1.3.1 - Reverse Restore Defaults Presets Version 1.3.0 - New Setting # Titles Added. Version 1.1.0 - New Default Settings - Better Temperature Accuracy Version 1.0.0 - First public release - Please give feedback on how to make the app better! Version 0.9.2 - Initial full feature test release.


    Notice the first two ....they reversed what they had done and restored defaults......sounds like they couldn't fix what was wrong via firmware updgrade.....put it back to default and prayed for the best.....imo.....
     
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  25. Brewervapesalot

    Brewervapesalot Well-Known Member

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    Sad. I thought about this one. Pulled the trigger on a Ghost, Argo, Vapcap, Firefly 2, and vapcaps. Then a Firewood 5. Still thought about this one.

    Ended up selling everything but the Firewood 5. Didn't get a Haze Square. Everytime I read the forum, issues abound. The design idea I liked though.

    Sorry you guys got stuck. Sorry people lost jobs, and their business, and investments.
     
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