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Got a DIY pen, best cart for BHO shatter/wax? or hash? Kanger? D9? GV?

Discussion in 'ABV' started by cainoftier, May 24, 2013.

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  1. cainoftier

    cainoftier New Member

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    Ive read for days now but theres so much different info.

    I bought the ego twist 900 mah VV battery, with some kanger carts. What Id really like is a ceramic cart With no polyfil and no tube in the middle to possibly melt. Something that works well for thick oils. Usually I smoke shatter and occasional wax.

    I also would like to find something that works ok for hash or a hash/bho combo. Something for herbs would probably vape hash too. Its not fullmelt.

    Ive been looking at gentlemans vape carts and heard delta9 are better but similar. Want to know if they are worth the price over Kangers, if they'll work better for my purposes. Also which ohms to get/voltage? does it matter. I have trouble with this.

    Thanks to any FCers who can help.
     
  2. DubCRider

    DubCRider Well-Known Member

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    The gentlemens cart is a ripoff of the Omicron cart, but not the same. Their V2 cart is Ok but still not very efficient. Kangers will leak if you load a full gram, once the cotton is pulled out you can see through them. Omicron carts are designed for loading up to a gram and getting 400 hits per fill. I have a kanger and V2 gentlemens and both require you to load as you go, not very discrete. Kangers were designed and intended for use with e-juice, not wax/oil.

    You will need a 510 to 601 thread adaptor. 2.4ohms is standard for 3.7v, 5ohm is standard at 7.4v. A 1.5ohm will get hotter at 3.7v then the 2.4ohm. A 1.5ohm will serve you better using shatter but I suggest learning with a 2.4ohm first.
     
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  3. cainoftier

    cainoftier New Member

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    Thanks for the reply.

    GC is out then, that's what I gathered from their thread somewhere here.

    I got these kanger 510 Carts based on a review if these parts (thenewguy how to build a pen under 50 bucks) from somewhere else. He didn't mention an adapter, but I'll need one for the kangers or just the omicrons?
     
  4. DubCRider

    DubCRider Well-Known Member

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    Your pen is 510 thread, omicron carts are 601. You need a 510 female to 601 male adaptor to use an omicron cart on your VV pen.
     
  5. cainoftier

    cainoftier New Member

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    Got ya. So you would say the omicron are the best carts?
     
  6. DubCRider

    DubCRider Well-Known Member

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    They are designed for use with oil/wax/shatter. Kangers are e-cig parts(cotton filler) and the gentlemens products are all half assed attempts at making an e-cig part work for oil.

    Yes, is the short answer.
     
  7. jdee

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  8. cainoftier

    cainoftier New Member

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    If you have another suggestion dubc I'm all ears. I don't mind long answers.

    I'm not sure i want to build my own atomizer.
     
  9. DubCRider

    DubCRider Well-Known Member

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    I suggest you get a 2.4ohm omicron cart and learn the ropes. You can switch to a 1.5ohm after getting the hang of it for larger hits.
     
  10. jdee

    jdee Well-Known Member

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    How many g's can you run through these 1.5ohm omicron carts before they need to be replaced?
    Not a big fan of disposable+repeated expense anything, and at $50 for a 5 pack, I find the pricing for rebuildable supplies (usually from http://www.vape-atomizer-mesh.com or ebay) much more interesting for me personally. That phoenix rba was on http://reosmods.com for $4 (but currently out of stock). But a dedicated 510 threaded rebuildable oil specific cart would be amazing. You can even buy FC-2000 porous ceramic wicks on ebay, which is pretty much the same stuff in cera if I understand correctly.
     
  11. cainoftier

    cainoftier New Member

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    There is already so much info with the premade things that I'm just not ready to rebuild/build ones myself. I also dont have the time to sit and play with them forever.

    I am hoping that for 13 a pop/50 for 5 they will last a few fills without having to be replaced.
     
  12. DubCRider

    DubCRider Well-Known Member

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    Longevity comes down to what you fill it with and how you use it. Filling with sub-par concentrates will gunk up the insides faster than using quality concentrates. If you dab it and it leaves residue behind on the nail it probably won't work well. OF uses foil to test before loading. You don't want to run them dry or with little oil inside. Weigh your cart empty, fill it with .6, and weigh as you use it. Once you have .2 left you want to refill it with another .6. Keep your cart topped off with clean concentrates and you should get many fills. I know someone personally who has put 14g through a 2.4ohm before switching to a new cart.
     
  13. ak47bluntz

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    Hey for your pen being that its 510 threading you could either get one of those carts i use both and they work amazing for waxes

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    The second 1 in my opinion rips soo much better than this one ^
    [​IMG]
     
  14. cainoftier

    cainoftier New Member

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    What carts are in those pictures? Those look great, especially the middle one up top and bottom one. Is that an atomizer on the bottom?
     
  15. arrr

    arrr Well-Known Member

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    They look like the 710 pen (top pic) and 710m pen (bottom pic). Link: http://www.710penvape.com/
     
  16. cainoftier

    cainoftier New Member

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    Well it sure does, maybe the 710 atomizer in the bottom? Those sure are pretty, although more then the omicrons.

    So you like the 710 carts better ak? How much do they hold. I'm gonna have to look into these now! Thanks.
     
  17. ataxian

    ataxian California

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    You threw the question out there so here's my take for what it's worth:

    I like the DELTA NINE product line.
    The other products you mentioned I have tried.
    However I like things that are made well.
    I favor the PERSEI set ups.
    Why?
    7.4 volts!
    HERCULES
    POLLEN PELLETS & HASH I've used in a HERCULES without the tank (very powerful)!
    You want V2! (soon to be released).
    http://www.delta9vapes.com/products.php?product=Hercules-Herb-Chamber-
    BENDER (I have the HAMMER TOP)
    http://www.delta9vapes.com/products.php?product=The-Bender
    2.4 cart and a 18350 AW IMR with a SHORTY Tube from a SS KIT (I have a very good success rate)!
    http://www.delta9vapes.com/products.php?product=Persei-SS-Black
    I even use the CARTOMISER for PG. (3.0v or 3.7v battery)
    http://www.delta9vapes.com/products.php?product=CE4-Cartomizer-2.5-ohm-
    Now I have very good results loading BLONDE WAXES (Well Purged) in my carts.
    The 5.0 carts I have set up as a dual configuration. (Careful this can lead to a self induced coma!)
    [​IMG]
    If you don't have the space I'd say get this to start with 2.4 carts:
    http://www.delta9vapes.com/products.php?product=O%2dPHOS-Black-Portable-essential-oil-vaporizer


    Comparing CONCENTRATE PENS is like comparing cars:

    Pinto vs Ferrari!
     
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  18. kushad

    kushad New Member

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    Interested in hearing more about those carts in the picture from ak47. Anyone have good or bad experiences with either one? The funnel one looks like a new design. It seems pretty good if it works like it's supposed to. Not sure if that funnel will get hot enough to make the wax melt off of it and down onto the coil. If not, youll just have to make sure you only dab onto the coil and any excess that builds up will have to be scraped up and moved back onto the coil.
     
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  19. arrr

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    Yes i have used both of 710 products and the both work well however i recommend the bottom one (710m).

    I am thinking about placing an order with ruvaped as they look like the same product and are so much cheaper. Link: http://www.ruvaped.com/shop/5-pack-skillet-bowl-replacements/

    Anyone ever used a ruvaped skillet? Is it the same as 710m?
     
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